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>>19190142
How do you contend with this point from the Communist Manifesto?

>The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

i.e., it's the ruling class that causes all of the social turbulence by constantly overturning the 'traditional' social relations in the quest for greater profit.

From this perspective, as Butterfly says, we see two kinds of feminism, a liberal (or bourgeois, or ruling-class) feminism and a socialist, or proletarian, or workingclass feminism. The second kind, the only kind that is worth having, has always and everywhere been a fight for womens' rights under capitalism and therefore against capitalism; the other kind is just a fight for more power for women who already have all the power.

There is no 'natural order', because what exists around us isn't 'natural', it's a set of deliberately created conditions and circumstances, constantly being overturned even as they come into being, all in the service of capital and moneymaking.

The point of reorientation is that the bullshit nature of life under capitalism is already given, we can't just wish for another world and have it spring into being by magic; sadly, we've got the world we've got, so our actions and philosophies both must be formed both within and, if we dislike it, against the world as it really stands today. And that's a world where women don't get a choice about working, the choice is work or starve (and marry or starve, and prostitute yourself or starve, are just work or starve by other names), so under those conditions your only option is to either passively accept it all, or choose to struggle against it.

Also Butterfly forgot to mention Emma Goldman and Alexandra Kollontai.

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>>19131427
Came here to post this and was pleasantly surprised to see it was FPBP

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>>18053261
Based reality ignorer

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Any good books on why I am a wage slave and may never actually make more then minimum wage?

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>>15895138
>dude capitalism

Unironically yes

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