/lit/ - Literature

>>22897520
>The world seems right to us when we are happy; when unhappy, we wish the world were anything but what it is. Though fully aware that the source of unhappiness is in us, we nevertheless turn a personal defect into a metaphysical deficiency. Unhappiness will never be sufficiently generous to acknowledge its own darkness in the world. Substituting for our subjective plight an objective one, we hope to lighten our burden and avoid the reproaches which we should in fact address to ourselves. But such objectification actually deepens our unhappiness and, presenting it as cosmic fatality, shuts off any possibility of lessening it or of making it more bearable.

>A zoologist who observed gorillas in their native habitat was amazed by the uniformity of their life and their vast idleness. Hours and hours without doing anything. Was boredom unknown to them? This is indeed a question raised by a human, a busy ape. Far from fleeing monotony, animals crave it, and what they most dread is to see it end. For it ends, only to be replaced by fear, the cause of all activity. Inaction is divine; yet it is against inaction that man has rebelled. Man alone, in nature, is incapable of enduring monotony, man alone wants something to happen at all costs — something, anything.... Thereby he shows himself unworthy of his ancestor: the need for novelty is the characteristic of an alienated gorilla.

>>20455573
Cioran
He lifts the urge for self-termination

>>20380546
>Aristotle, Aquinas, Hegel - three enslavers of the mind. The worst form of despotism is the system, in philosophy and in everything.

>>20380566
Agreed

Can some fellow pessimists please tell me how you handle the conclusion of Cioran, Zapffe, Schopenhauer and co.? Suicide doesn't seem to be a permanent solution and these guys sometimes recommend the aesthetic lifestyle. I would like to know how you guys implement that? Just reading other books?

(the jannies delete all pessimism threads so I have to ask here)

>>20375212
Can some fellow pessimists please tell me how you handle the conclusion of Cioran, Zapffe, Schopenhauer and co.? Suicide doesn't seem to be a permanent solution and these guys sometimes recommend the aesthetic lifestyle. I would like to know how you guys implement that? Just reading other books?

>>18933874
>Melancholy: an appetite no misery satisfies
>Sometimes I wish I were a cannibal – less for the pleasure of eating someone than for the pleasure of vomiting him.
>IT'S RAW

>There is enough garlic in 'ere to kill all the vampires in Romania
Cioran, The Heights of Despair

"I train my chefs completely different to anyone else. My young girls and guys, when they come to the kitchen, the first thing they get is a blindfold. They get blindfolded and they get sat down at the chef’s table… Unless they can identify what they’re tasting, they don’t get to cook it.”
Cioran, Pe culmile disperării

>>17781437
>There's enough feckin' garlic in 'ere to kill all the vampires in Romania, you măgar!

>>17772604
>There's enough fuckin' garlic in 'ere to kill all the vampires in Romania, you donkey!

>One Beef Wellington, medium rare, and two risotto
>It's fucking raw

>>17721267
>There’s enough garlic in here to kill every vampire in Romania

Why is he so good ? Reading his work is for me like talking to a friend who trully understand me.

>>14070369
"Compared to music, mysticism, and poetry, philosophical activity proceeds from a diminished impulse and a suspect depth, prestigious only for the timid and the tepid. Moreover, philosophy -- impersonal anxiety, refuge among anaemic ideas -- is the recourse of all who would elude the corruptive exuberance of life."
—Emil Cioran

>>13894546
But once that's done all you have is an empty glass.

"Compared to music, mysticism, and poetry, philosophical activity proceeds from a diminished impulse and a suspect depth, prestigious only for the timid and the tepid. Moreover, philosophy -- impersonal anxiety, refuge among anaemic ideas -- is the recourse of all who would elude the corruptive exuberance of life."
—Emil Cioran

What's the essential Emil Cioran?

Was he a poser? Is every anti-natalist a poser?

>>11626785
it ìs Bach you pleb

Antinatalism is dumb. We can't end our own existence precisely because we didn't will its beginning or as Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic Park, life always finds a way. The antinatalist, like every utopian, still buys into the delusion that tragedy can be overcome or done away with entirely. Every birth is a tragedy in the wheel of Eternal Return.

"I don't understand why we must do things in this world, why we must have friends and aspirations, hopes and dreams. Wouldn't it be better to retreat to a faraway corner of the world, where all its noise and complications would be heard no more? Then we could renounce culture and ambitions; we would lose everything and gain nothing; for what is there to be gained from this world? There are people to whom gain is unimportant, who are hopelessly unhappy and lonely. We are so closed to one another! And yet, were we to be totally open to each other, reading into the depths of our souls, how much of our destiny would we see? We are so lonely in life that we must ask ourselves if the loneliness of dying is not a symbol of our human existence. Can there be any consolation at the last moment? This willingness to live and die in society is a mark of great deficiency. It is a thousand times preferable to die somewhere alone and abandoned so that you can die without melodramatic posturing, unseen by anyone. I despise people who on their deathbed master themselves and adopt a pose in order to impress. Tears do not burn except in solitude. Those who ask to be surrounded by friends when they die do so out of fear and inability to live their final moments alone. They want to forget death at the moment of death. They lack infinite heroism. Why don't they lock their door and suffer those maddening sensations with a lucidity and a fear beyond all limits?

We are so isolated form everything! But isn't everything equally inaccessible to us? The deepest and most organic death is death in solitude, when even light becomes a principle of death. In such moments you will be severed from life, from love, smiles, friends and even from death. And you will ask yourself if there is anything besides the nothingness of the world and your own nothingness."

>Life is pain
Really!?

"In the fact of being born there is such an absence of necessity that when you think about it a little more than usual, you are left—ignorant how to react—with a foolish grin."