/lit/ - Literature

>>13317427
I like this take on it, I think you're right

>>11815483
LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN

>>8463898
>democracy is wholly American

>All this fedora tipping in one thread
>pic related, it's my sides

>>5455275
>Implying you're not autistic for getting upset over something so irrelevant.

>>4661126
Why would you bother listing the major reason for anti-natalism as pleasure vs. pain when you're going to say "not all pain is bad"?

This is a really fucking ambiguous argument. We're now in a spot where not only can we not quantify anything being said (we cannot accurately consider "how much pain" the average person has or will suffer, so we can't actually make decisions based off that quantification) but now we can't even determine what the subject at hand (whether the pain underwent is "good" or "bad") actually is. This is a no-man's land of useless ambiguity.

Then there's still the fact that a life can be "Good" even if there is a lot of physical pain involved, because we can at least agree that pain is apparently not inherently bad, so I'm not sure where you're headed with this.

The other anon is right, this IS utilitarianism stuff, just extraordinarily limited parts of it. The idea of virtue existing at all discounts it, they're not compatible. You cannot hold simultaneously the idea that Good and Evil is separate from physical pleasure or pain and be an anti-natalist, and I think that's the core to this discussion.

Having trouble finding a sufficiently neutral reaction image that displays my interest, so here's this instead.

>>4459000
What do you call a Pirate mixed with an Orangutan?

an ARRRRRangutan!

>>4389533
Don't be like that, c'moooooooon

>>3707310

If you want freedom, you actually go to the publisher, not the other way around. They take your money for tasks a normal writer feels far too undignified to perform themselves - from typesetting and printing to advertising and negotiating shelf-space. Are you into all that plus full-time-job-grade self-promotion? No? Well, that's what the publishing fees are for.

Yes, publishers have quite a bit of control over you. Just like a porter has quite a bit of control over your luggage. You're not "lobbying" anyone, you're looking for a service.

Your work is likely ot be rejected due to numerous flaws, though. Don't be offended, but your writing is amateurish. But! Self-publishing will prevent you from working with professionals and improving yourself really fast. Through work with an editor, only a lousy talent will be decimated. A good writer, on the other hand, will learn fast and his style will flourish. Instead of adapting, you will find the publisher that suits you, and let them do the dirty work. Few publishers will normally take prose like yours - it's nice, but still an early draft in need of a rewrite.


Also, I am Russian. This is how Russians speak English. Your character is a caricature. I know you're not being anti-russian, on the contrary, but caricatures are a product of bad characterization, which is, again, grounds for editorial refusal.