/lit/ - Literature

>non-ironically became rich after investing in Bitcoin and crypto because /lit/ memed me into reading Nick Land

>>15135454
PPOOO POOOO PEEENY THEEEEEE 67547

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>>14184672

I don't think he sad said anything attacking them, but his conclusions seem to point to them eventually ceasing to exist, or changing to the point of not being recognizable to us now.

We're fucked.

*smokes meth*
We all gonna die some day

that's a 10-4 good buddy

>>10642746
https://jacobitemag.com/2017/05/25/a-quick-and-dirty-introduction-to-accelerationism/

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>>9704056
This is not a Land thread - there have been enough of those - but reading Tiqqun clarifies for me some of what was wigging him out. The capital letters are theirs and not mine.

>The way that the systems metaphor evolved towards the network metaphor in social discourse be- tween the 1950s and 1980s points towards the other fundamental analogy constituting the cybernetic hypothesis. It also indicates a profound transformation of the latter. Because if PEOPLE talked about “systems,” among cyberneticians it would be by comparison with the nervous system, and if PEOPLE talk today about the cognitive “network” sciences, THEY are thinking about the neuronal network. Cybernetics is the assimilation of the totality of the phenomena that exist into brain phenomena. By posing the mind as the alpha and omega of the world, cybernetics has guaranteed itself a place as the avant-garde of all avant-gardes, the one that they will now all forever be running after. It effectively implements, at the start, the identity between life, thought, and language.

>This radical Monism is based on an analogy between the notions of information and energy. Wiener introduced it by grafting onto his discourse the discourse of 19th century thermodynamics; the operation consisted in comparing the effect of time on an energy system with the effect of time on an information system. A system, to the extent that it is a system, is never pure and perfect: there is a degradation of its energy to the extent that it undergoes exchanges, in the same way as information degrades as it is circulated around. This is what Clausius called entropy. Entropy, considered as a natural law, is the cybernetician’s Hell. It explains the decomposition of life, disequilibrium in economy, the dissolution of social bonds, decadence... Initially, speculatively, cybernetics claimed that it had thus opened up a common ground on which it would be possible to carry out the unification of the natural and human sciences.

It seems like what drove NL nuts was trying to do a kind of high-test phenomenology of exactly that: social (and metaphysical) cybernetics. It didn't work. Or it did in ways that were really unhealthy for him.
>and everyone else who has to hear about nick land jesus christ stop
>ok

Social cyberneticization - or mimetics - just makes a lot of sense to me. We see the War when it happens (unless you're Jean Baudrillard) but not all the other stuff that has already happened beforehand.

How do I trick myself into reading again? I stopped aftrr getting into college and haven't read nearly as much as before. I have so much on my plate but know I can make time if I really want it.
I need a catalyst. A psychological primer to get back into the 2 books a week mode.

What's some good life affirmating philosophy other than Nietzsche?

>>9316676
See here.
https://genius.com/Nick-land-meltdown-annotated

>>9316693
Not so much a question of fear as whether or not it's a phenomenon that can be psychologically or philosophically understood. I believe it can be; read Klaus Theweleit's books for more details. Or Deleuze.

The other thing is that a great deal of continental philosophy after the Second World War is highly interested in this question - not just the Holocaust itself, but the fact that Heidegger was this massively important philosopher and a huge influence on virtually everyone (Nietzsche also) who have these...complicated links to that event. And so now with Bannon fascism appears once again, but in the United States. However you choose to look at this phenomenon it's hard to take your eyes off of it.

Or it *was,* for a while, anyways. Seems as though the Trump Train has stalled somewhat in the past few weeks.

Anyways, that populism does seem to be increasing, or at least has spiked considerably in the past few years or so (since GamerGate? I don't know). And it's emerging as a response to perhaps a critical mass of postmodernity, stagnant world economies, fears of automation and AI, Islam, lots of other stuff...problems that *appear* to be worsening and deepening. I have that word in asterisks because, of course, in many ways life is getting better...but people certainly seem to feel more afraid, more triggered, less civic-minded and so on.

Anyways, I should shut up about this. What do you think?

I am a Nick Land fan and I want to read Deleuze. Where should I start?

Some philosophers can be considered parts of both traditions, such as Nick Land

>you will never live in Nick Land

is he our guy?