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>>6920190
>>6920190
>Rousseau and Diderot didn't want to accept the reality that Machiavelli did not care if his ruler had to get his hands dirty but how shit actually works,

Machiavelli was a republican. He was mocking monarch's ruthless power-munging. He didn't seek rulers to rule him, he wanted the people to take charge. Sounds like you have not even minimal knowledge of the author.

>>6920190
>He sucked off Cesare for a reason
Cesare was dead at this point, and widely hated by everyone. Machiavelli was smearing monarchs by taking as an example the worst of them. He wanted an united Italy yes, but a republican one. Again, it sounds like you don't know shit about the subject.

Go get an education, you badly need it.

>>6920214
>>6920233
This was relevant only as long as he was the Pope's son. When the old man bought the farm, everything went to shit, everyone dropped him, except a single loyal follower. Dilettantes love you when you are powerful and rich, and abandon you when Fortune change side.