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Is Nietzsche the most overrated philosopher?

>he stole Stirner's idea of an eminent and formidable individual who establishes his own values
>stole Stirner's recognition that modern ideologies are simply forms of secularized Christianity
>most of Nietzsche's ideas were humiliated through the characters of Raskolnikov, Ivan Fyodorovich and Smerdyakov in Dostoyevsky's prose
>everyone accepted the idea of God's death and "thus everything is permitted", but they could no longer live, having rejected morality
>Nietzsche followed Ivan's fate as he descended into madness
>devil's scene: "What's more, even if this period never comes to pass, since there is anyway no God and no immortality, the new man may well become the man-god, even if he is the only one in the whole world, and promoted to his new position, he may lightheartedly overstep all the barriers of the old morality of the old slave-man, if necessary."
>what was Nietzsche's life project LE UBERMENSCH for Dostoyevsky was a silly idea of a sick man, and he didn't even need to read Nietzsche to come up with such shit
>Ivan even said himself that socialism was an actualization of the first desert temptation
>most of Nietzsche's criticisms of Christianity have no merit and have therefore never been taken seriously by a Christian thinker
>Nietzsche misinterpreted the Bronze Age mentality, projecting his 19th-century individualism onto a time when a person's entire identity was social. Nietzsche didn't understand this because he was a women hating incel and thought he was too brilliant for society and that's why he never contributed to the community and lived as a loner
>literally thought he had destroyed all philosophy since Plato. imagine being that delusional lol
>was a fan of le science and consequently naturalized philosophy itself as something that only comes from a weak physical body, and yet Plato would mog him into oblivion
>all of Nietzsche's ideas are basically contradictory and if you want to understand them you have to accept the metaphysical concept of "will to power", and this would make Nietzsche a metaphysician and a lowkey mystic and that analysis would be consistent with his idea of le eternal return

>There are books which have an opposite value for the soul and for health, depending on whether the lower soul, the lower vitality, or the higher and more powerful soul makes use of them: with the first group, the books are dangerous, shattering, disintegrating; with the second group, they are a herald’s summons which provokes the bravest to show their courage.
Which books/authors does the above quote describe? For me it's Jung.

> Nietzsche views the modern state with a special repugnance, as something which threatens to acquire the position of an earthly god. In Schopenhauer as Educator he traces the development of the modern state back to the Middle Ages, when the church served, with its immense power, to harmonize the conflicting, hostile forces which are always part of human nature and to "in some measure assimilate them to one another." When the power of the church began to pass away, the state prevented the chaos which seemed about to erupt by stepping in to occupy the same central role in human life that the church had occupied, as the bond that holds us together; but "this means that it wishes the people to practice toward it the same idolatry that they once practiced toward the church." (U III 4). Later on, he says that the extensive state power we see around us is not really necessary in order to prevent chaos, it only seems so to us because our demand for security is so high: we wish to "make society safe against thieves and fireproof and endlessly amenable to every kind of trade and traffic" (M 179).8 The ancient Greeks
had a genuine need for "the idolization of the concept of the state" because they had strong destructive impulses which required being held in check, but it is not necessary for a tame people, like ourselves, "whose lust for
power no longer rages as blindly" as their did (M 199). In investing the state with as much power as we have, "what is being effected is the very opposite of universal security, a fact our lovely century is undertaking to demonstrate ..." (M 179). As a source of social order, the church had at least one advantage over the state: it is an institution "that believes in the power of spirituality to the extent of forbidding itself the use of all the cruder instruments of force; and on this score alone the church is a nobler institution than the state" (FW 358). But "the time will come when institutions will arise" which are superior to both church and state, and will put their "prototype, the Catholic Church, into shadows and forgetfulness" (MAM 476).

What could have been if he was ourguy

>Ernst Krieck, a prominent Nazi ideologue, sarcastically remarked that apart from the fact that Nietzsche was not a socialist, not a nationalist and opposed to racial thinking, he might have been a leading National Socialist thinker.

>I have forgotten my umbrella

What did he mean by this?

>Let me tell you about who is and isn't ubermensch...

Why does everyone blame Marxist philosophy for a lot of problems in the world today when clearly most people are taking Nietzsche’s blueprint of ressentiment and relativism? He’s clearly the main culprit.

what he would think about trannies

All he wanted to do was help us and look what it did to him. Poor Nietzsche he needed many cuddles. What books of his should I start on?

This is the face of a man who stared at the abyss. Wanting to fill the abyss left by the death of God he ventured inside only to never return: the abyss stared back at him. He attempted to remake the world and abolish the old idols but only became lost in his own sad mind. In denying truth, in denying God, and in denying morality, he denied himself. A failure.

When I look at the world today all I see are his warnings come true: a total collapse into slave morality, ressentiment, and decadence. What’s the point of reading any other modern philosophy?

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Correct, Nietzsche was right about almost everything but failed to have an answer to the death of god because he himself was an atheist. Everything that replaced God has either been defeated (communism) or devolved into a mass of slave moralism where people bask in their soullessness (liberalism). We are the Last Men of history, and Junger knew that he was fighting the war to end all wars.