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>If you are biologically hardwired not to kill yourself, then you do not care about preventing pain as much as you care about acquiring pleasure.
Flawed logic when it's a fatalistic force acting upon our consciousness and not something of pure logic, except for those born with exceptional will

>You are the one who chooses to view the suffering as meaningless.
No empirical evidence of meaning for any of it, was my dysfunctional household meaningful even though it psychologically messed me up in ways even i can come to recognize, does the starving child or the holocaust contribute meaning to the world?

>Not only is it unlikely to wipe out all life, the people that spread these ideas are usually too depressed and dysfunctional to spread them, let alone actually make a change in the world. Additionally, life would just start all over again, raising different problems. It's an exercise in futility, and a scientific pipe dream (unless you basically believe in a God that follows your beliefs, or that we can make such a "god").
> "You are biologically hardwired not to kill yourself." Then how are you going to convince other people to wipe out life, if they are "biologically hardwired" against such wanton massacre? It's basically anti-utopianism, and it's just as unlikely.
Kurzgesagt's video is a very simple explanation of a process that would wipe out the universe, vaccum decay, it could be reverse engineered by advanced enough transhumans and there are other theories too

>By this, you mean it is an immediate reality.
I did include the possibility of locking almost everyone into a pleasure machine, however, that is an absolute neutral at best and also extremely difficult, plus it does not completely exclude all suffering, it's simply not as thorough or permanent.

>Then I have just disproven the modern scientific corpus by acquiring meaning.
Delusion

>Genetically alter or hardwire yourself so that you don't feel suffering, then. If you are such a science ass-kisser, it should be possible.
Read above

>By this, you mean that it is our purpose.
Hedonism is just another distraction, desu


>If you really were empathetic, you would be doing more than arguing against "natalism" and "meaning." For one, you wouldn't call others names. You would also be alleviating suffering while you are here in life. Of course, Christianity also has empathy and an understanding of the universe, it is nihilistic scientianity-followers that have lost one indispensable mode of understanding.
Science is a religion now even though the empirical method has never truly failed?
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