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Will anyone start reading Don Quixote this year on April 23rd?

We are surrounded by dragons that people cannot see.

Have you read 'El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha'?
What's your opinion about it?

In favour of DQ: Dosto, Borges, Schopenhauer
Against DQ: Nabokov

What group are you in?

"There is nothing in the world more profound or powerful than this work. This is the ultimate and greatest word that human thought has yet produced, it is the bitter irony expressible by man, and if the world were to end and someone were to ask there, somewhere, 'Well, did you understand your life on earth? What conclusions did you reach about it?' one could silently point to Don Quixote: 'Here is my conclusion about life; can you judge me for it?'"
-- Fyodor Dostoevsky

What do you think about starting a collective read of Don Quixote on April 23rd?

3-4 chapters per day

Dostoyevsky on Don Quixote:

>There is nothing in the world more profound or powerful than this work. This is the ultimate and greatest word that human thought has yet produced, it is the bitter irony expressible by man, and if the world were to end and someone were to ask there, somewhere, 'Well, did you understand your life on earth? What conclusions did you reach about it?' one could silently point to Don Quixote: 'Here is my conclusion about life; can you judge me for it?

Is it that good? I want to start to read it at some point.

Is Don Quixote still worth the read after all these years? It actually sounds very intriguing but I just want to hear from someone who has read it.

Naught cometh from bottleneck drunkards and bluestockers in orgiastic crucibles, wondered aloud Ogil, Olaf's third cousin. Chew and spit the faggot meat, don't swallow though, my misgivings cause a light tremble, mother spoke aside to Ogil. I, the youngest in the family, Ogil's brother, cousin to Olaf, too, but not his first cousin Arriette, the comely soon-to-be Olaf's bride, born a bastard to a dead father and absconding mother, taken in by their family, raised as their own, and now to be married to their son. Far end of the table I see now the oldest I've ever seen a man be, mother's father-in-law, his eyelid never moving, drooping, the right one and he turns his head towards one when he talks, nodding graciously, the old puritan, and he only disrespects the Muslims, I see every now and then him and his daughter, aunt Eelo, busty, old her bosom sags restrained in a blouse far younger than she and for someone far younger than she. Caught my glance she smiles knowingly my infatuation with the hag, my penis acknowledges her visage's allure and bosom's too, Ogil, beside me unpleased as his eyebrows furrow, well-meaning and worried about the Freudian implications of my phallic aspirations, for beside him is mother, not too different in age than Eelo, sweet Eelo. Thirty or so other members, and shame as it may be, for they live within a distance of a car ride, are less than acquaintances to me. Dinner's run long, and aunts and uncles care for little other than the immediate, and their siblings aren't the immediate, Ogil taught me a year ago, or less than that. A wobbly tit charms a cowherd, a woman must perk up, and God blesses those whose breasts are proud, firm like a lioness, and the dejected must resort to surgery, old world values need puritanist tinges to them,Olaf announces to an aghast audience, rendering Arriette nearly to tears. Ogil slightly amused muses on about the dysfunction saying rapt in uhtceare will the bride-to-be spend her days chained in holiness to the quomodocunquizing paragon of the Lord's bastard native of Nazareth.

>>9408302
She was a heavy reader, and had moved way beyond classics in the fantasy genre, so I would have felt really stupid recommending LotR to her, as I just knew she had already read it to death somehow. She REALLY made it clear she didn't like George R. R. Martin's books, though she wouldn't really tell me why (they were too gross I think it was). I hadn't really ever thought of Weidzman, but I'm not exactly sure she was looking for explorations of morality, but rather looking for genre fiction. Thank you for your response though.

As for your question, its low pay, easy work as long as you can sell things. If you are the kind of person who doesn't want to push your interests on others (you know, a polite person?) you will have trouble starting out. They also demand that you work in cafe sometimes, so you need to be able to make coffee and handle food/get a food worker's card. Its great if you are in college though.

>>9408306
This is an excellent recommendation, and is exactly the kind of response I was hoping for. Thank you very much anon.

Any other recommendations would be more than appreciated. Thank you all so much.

>>9177961
I'm really wary of posting any of it online because a lot of the publishers I've spoken too say it counts as self-publishing and that they won't even consider it then. I also hate just yapping about my writing because it makes me feel like I'm wasting people's time unnecessarily.

The fastest version that I can explain is something like this:

act1: Protagonist is established, protagonist's homeworld is established, protagonist is arrested and via a jailbreak leaves their homeworld

act2: Protagonist gets their own spaceship and makes a deal with Big Corporation to settle a series of tasks, and in turn Big Corporation will settle their arrest warrant and prosecution on their homeworld, which will allow them to return home. The rest of act2 is just the protag going through various "episodes" of each task, 4 in total make up act 2.

The problem that I feel exists is that the protagonist's homeworld is kind of pointless to present, as the protagonist leaves and doesn't return to it save for 1 episode of act2, and thus what's the point of detailing it so much? However the plot details of act1 ARE very important, and I feel that they at some point MUST be conveyed to the reader.

So if I leave the structure as it is, it wastes the reader's time. If I remove act1 and start in act2, it solves the problem of wasting the reader's time, but there are a lot of key details that the reader will have to gain through other means.

By removing act1 as well, it will likely remove the sense of loss the reader may have at the beginning of act2 if act1 is presented fully first. However I am not dumb enough to think that even this is as important as not boring the reader early on, and I know that having the craziness of act2 at the start of the book weighs against that sense of loss quite easily.

I also have a short story with this same character in it that relates to their past, however its basically completely irrelevant to the plot, but if I used it as a prologue it would start the book out with a lot of action in an attempt to buy some patience from the reader in act1 until act2 begins in full, but it would be a pretty steep thing I think to ask a reader, especially because such a prologue would be irrelevant to the overall plot, and although entertaining would be just as much of a waste of time as act1, which might even make the "wasting time" problem even worse than it would be with just act1 left where it is

What's the best translation? Is it the Edith Grossman ver?

>>6579849
you misunderstand how people interact with their environment. the brightest humans are the most likely to be drawn in by pop music and pop lit. it makes sense to them because it's media created by people like them.

I have to call on the subgenius maxim here, THE ONLY TRUE PATH TO ENLIGHTENMENT IS BRAIN DAMAGE.

the whole point of brave new world was to mock us, the intellectuals. bernard is broken. that is all. all his alpha friends are perfect. they enjoy the orgy porgy and soma because that is exactly the world that makes them happy. bernard has a skewed perspective and so looks to torture himself and drama llama constantly. he cannot be happy so he seeks out experiences that don't fit the norm. not because he is better, but because he is defective.

you either need to accept this fact that there is something wrong with you that leads us to seek out this super esoteric antiquated hobby.

how many books can you seriously name published in the last 10 years that were actually quality? at the beginning of the last century there was Tolkien, james joyce, pinecone and CS Lewis, then there was frank herbert and ellis these were the popular fiction of their time. today popular fiction is twilight and 50 shades. you are literally living in the past, quixotic. you've failed to adapt to the modern world.


but I understand anons. I too have invested a large part of my life in this so I can't throw it away. I make up excuses like a drug addict, it's habbitual behaviour that is not profitable or useful in anyway. I'm not a diplomat or an officer, what the fuck does it matter if i know anything about war? I'm not a psychiatrist, what the fuck does it matter if I know so much about ethnography and psychoanalysis? it is pure masturbatory pleasure and you anons need to accept that you are the weirdos, not the plebs.

I just started reading this, and how did nobody tell me that Don Quixote is just medieval Dwight?

Also, what are some more books about crazy assholes?

Are Miguel de Cervantes's other works worth reading?

I really liked Don Quixote and I was thinking of looking into his other stuff

Literature, should by define not by content but by form, then, the form its what poses the quality of Literacy, form in relation with content and time. Actual time literature is found in Film and Video Games, Not just shit Video Games, But VideoGames that permit the exploration of narration, Narrator, autor, etc, in more ways that just a book (form) permits. Like Stanley Parable and Gone Home.

Best hardcover spanish annoted edition of Don Quijote?

Have I Don Quixote'd myself into being a tortured artist?

he gets a squire and horse, i just get alcohol

This is the only acceptable book related t-shirt. I would wear the fuck out of this if I could find a t-shirt with this on it.

Cool art and subtle so plebs won't know you're advertising a book, yet obvious enough that anyone who has read the book will get it.

>>4019603
>DFW -
yes, but IJ was one of the best, if not the best, read of my life. I loved his non-fiction. I've got pale king on the rainy day pile.
>John Irving -
Prayer for Owen Meany is the one of the few contenders to the top spot. It's perfect on so many levels. Love his other stuff, too.
>Stephen King -
fantastic writer, great style, half the time he pulls of a great yarn, too.

Bonus:
Guess I'm one of the few who LOVED Moby Dick. Great book.

>Larry McMurtry -
loved his stuff too. It was great he usually wrote a few novels about a set of characters, and each stood on their own, you didn't need to even read the others or in order to enjoy the ones that spanned a world.

>Douglas Adams -
the whole hitchhiker thing was still the best set of comic novels evar.

>Christopher Moore -
one of the few authors to mix great comic writing and great themes. A Dirty Job is in my top 5.

Best translation of Don Quixote?

>inb4 implyan translashans
I'm not going to learn early modern spanish for such an average book

Novels here.

sup lit,

which translation of Don Quixote do you recommend?

(I don't mind archaic English btw)

inb4readitinspanish