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>>11523323
>the book portrays its world as ideal and semi-utopian, bc heinlein at the time of writing was very right wing
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! WHAT THE HELL!?
>the film is by a leftist verhoeven and thus portrays the same world as dystopian, and as a reflection of fascistic tendencies in our society
The movie? Dystopian? Where?! Tell me! Are people actualy believing in this? I got the feeling you saw the movie after Nostagia Critic review, and just cooked up the dystopian stuff, with is clearly, wrong.
>op is positing that the film is a misreading of the book
It is tho. It's a fun movie, but nowhere near what the book is.
>and saying that there is nothing fascistic about withholding voting rights to people until they demonstrate dedication to society
Alright, mr, then tell me. Is the Republic of Venice a fascist state? Because voting rights were limited.
Oh, and let's say, Tang China, was Tang China fascistic?
Was the Muslim Empire before it colapsed and after Ali a fascistic state?
Was fucking the first decades of the USA a fascistic state?
Was the Soviet Union a fascist state?
People always come up to ST and say this garbage.This is always the strawmen people bought about fascism in ST, this only proves people don't have a clue of what fascism realy is.
>i doubt op has missed the point of either, he just disagrees with your obvious bias towards the film, and subsequent dismissal of the book
Fun you talking about bias mr, "if voting rights aren't universal, it's fascism"
Fun fact. ST was a must read in military academys in the US for some time... Is the US military a fascist organization then?
Or better yet, tell me the fascistic nature of letting people choose to serve their country, because oh boy, what a fascist dictatorship they live in, giving me choice and allowing dissent inside their territory, oh the horror, Heinlein is the next fucking Mussolini right?

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>>11500094
I wish that was me

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