/lit/ - Literature

Is Eowyn a strong female character?

Why or why not?

Don't hate, guys—it's just for fun!

>Wahh, wahh, his interpretation of the books isn't the same as mine.
or
>Wahh, wahh, filmic adaptations of novels aren't based on original ideas.
In certain respects, I would almost rather watch a full-scale Hobbit/LotR adaptation than an original fantasy. Any original fantasy film is likely to be based on Tolkien, anyway. I want to see all those badass chracters, motifs, situations, etc. from the books on the screen. I want to see subtitled Quenya. I want to see dem National Geographic vistas of New Zealand passed off as Middle-Earth locales. I want to hear men singing unironically.

>>2670547
You can't distract a Maia.

Seriously, Sauron had a sort of direct mind control over his Orc captains and Trolls. He didn't find it a problem focusing on all of those thousands and thousands of minions at every moment, in addition to all the other stuff he was doing, so there's no way he could not notice a squadron of giant eagles.

Whatever is happening ITT we agree that OP is mistaken and taking something Tolkien said way out of context, right?

And that Tolkien was not racist, so stormfags need to stop idolizing him like the muddle brained idiots they are.

Seriously they like to pretend that The Lord of the Rings is an analogy for the struggle between races, which is stupid, because even if Tolkien were a white supremacist he hated it when anyone thought that his writings were analogous to anything.

To all the Tolkien fans I must know which book to read next, the Children of Hurin or the Silmarlillion. I have finished the hobbit and the entirety of the Lord of the Rings books, in chronological order. I know that J.R.R. did most of the writing for The Silmarlillion and Christopher Tolkien played a major part in editing Children of Hurin. does either of this come in to effect while reading either book. and I know the Silmarillion is a Tolkien readers wet dream with all the back story information.
Tl;Dr
should i either read The Silmarlillion or Children of Hurin?

It's nice for a human villain to have a little complexity I suppose but people shouldn't treat it like it's mandatory.

Also, things have gotten too far when monsters or demons like Sauron can't be good villains anymore because they're pure evil.

>>2363393
>Tolkien vocally opposed Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party prior to the Second World War. In 1938, the publishing house Rütten & Loening Verlag was preparing to release The Hobbit in Nazi Germany. To Tolkien's outrage, he was asked beforehand whether he was of Aryan origin. In a letter to his British publisher Stanley Unwin, he condemned Nazi "race-doctrine" as "wholly pernicious and unscientific". He added that he had many Jewish friends and was considering, "letting a German translation go hang".[102] He provided two letters to Rütten & Loening and instructed Unwin to send whichever he preferred. The more tactful letter was sent and was lost during the later bombing of Germany. In the unsent letter, Tolkien makes the point that "Aryan" is a linguistic term, denoting speakers of Indo-Iranian languages. He continued,

>But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject—which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.[103]

>>2356435
That's a horrible idea.

Seriously OP, start with the only two book on Middle-earth that he ever actually published, The Hobbit and then LotR.

Everything else is made from scraps of his unpublished writings collected by his son Christopher after his death.

Except for The Silmarillion, I think, which was mostly complete.

>>2294478
How is one supposed to develop a Satanic character?

Again, you can't sympathize with Satan, you can't relate to Satan, you can't understand Satan.

I'll grant that you that Satanic bad guys aren't all that interesting for those reasons, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad villains.

They're evil for reasons you can't comprehend, isn't that enough?

I don't like comparing the Ainur to angels too much.

It works best with Melkor, what with him being Satan, but it doesn't fit too well with the rest.

And even though Eru is the supreme creator deity, it's not incorrect to refer to the Valar as gods.

They're even referred to as gods at one point in the Silmarillion.

Anyway, here's some things about the ainur that don't fit with angels too well.

One, although the ainur are spirits, they can take on physical form when they want, and they pretty much spend all of their time with actual physical forms.

Two, the difference between the Valar and the Maiar is really much greater than the difference between archangels and regular angels.

Three, Ainur are not beyond redemption once they rebel against Eru.

In Christian thought, the fallen angels cannot receive God's forgiveness because, as spiritual beings, they exist outside of time.

In other words, there is no before or after with angels. They can't rebel against God one day and then decide to seek his forgiveness the next. Once they've sinned against God, it's as if they have always been against God, see.

It's hard to explain but I think you get my point.

/lit/ I'm very drunk and having nothing better to do I'm going to dump some Tolkien art

>The Lord of the Rings

so why is Sauron the titular character anyway

Did the Balrogs have wings?

Were Orcs immortal?

How did Morgoth create the Trolls and the Dragons?

What was the mission of the Blue Wizards, and what was their fate?

Let's hear your ideas /lit/.

>>1839106
http://www.mediafire.com/?aolbs1z293f19a6

my Tolkien folder

>The question of racist or racialist elements in Tolkien's views and works has been the matter of some scholarly debate.[94] Christine Chism[95] distinguishes accusations as falling into three categories: intentional racism,[96] unconscious Eurocentric bias, and an evolution from latent racism in Tolkien's early work to a conscious rejection of racist tendencies in his late work.

>Tolkien expressed disgust at what he acknowledged as racism and once wrote of racial segregation in South Africa, "The treatment of colour nearly always horrifies anyone going out from Britain."[97]

he was more than an author, he was also a first class scholar

by profession he was a philologist, meaning that he studied languages