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>>11264504
i honestly don't want to continue this discussion with you. you'll keep trying to push your presumption of God into me and i'll keep trying to push my rejection of it into you. this will lead nowhere.

>I make no claims to truth, or infallibility
>You'll find faith eventually. Faith in God begins with merely accepting the notion that the universe exists, and that it was created, and finally the inevitibility of a creator
yet your God is infallible, perfect, permanent; yet you say with absolute certainty that everyone will eventually reach the conclusion of God and take your faith. see what i mean by delusions of grandeur? i'm not insulting you, i'm just frustrated.

>What is 'right here' and 'right now'. You're gonna hit back with what is merely observable, okay?
it would seem like that to you indeed. but that's not entirely true. know that i'll adhere to buddhism now (at this point this discussions is basically theological/religious). right here right now obviously means your immediate experience of "yourself" and of "others" and "other things". you experience them through the senses, through six senses -namely ear, eye, nose, tongue, body and mind. you would take mind to be separate from the other senses and call it the instrument through which you can reach God. that's wrong, blatantly wrong. your experience of God is determined by all the factors that determine the other senses. it's a delusion.
using the word immediate does not mean "what's merely observable". don't strawman me

i think you feel that by saying all this i'm rejecting love and everything that's good. that by saying all this i'm justifying hatred and everything that's wrong.
that is not my objective nor do i substantiate that claim.