/lit/ - Literature

When did you realize its all mass delusion?

which part of plato most BTFO the consensus metaphysic of contemporary scientism? i think zeno (with a little help from bergson) does a good job

why do mods delete threads about zeno's paradox? are people afraid of what it says re: the way they approach the world/their most basic metaphysic? it's clearly literature

>blocks your path

the parallel development, in roughly the same order, of similar philosophies in east and west—though it does indicate some cross-pollination—makes a stronger case for both traditions being the explication of a more ancient indo-aryan metaphysic—the various positions and schools playing out being simply the expressions of this metaphysic coming into conflict with external developments and more importantly, itself. when it grows untenuous, jesus and buddha try to salvage the exoteric pieces of what’s left. the sort of metaphysic at the heart of it all reaches its grandest expression in thinkers like plotinus and spinoza, valiant attempts to save it from the rubbish bin, but the major fault lines had been pointed out from the beginning—first by parmenides, then by zeno. that our most basic metaphysic simply doesnt map onto lived reality without creating paradox was also bergson’s project to reveal—a sort of metaphysical nominalism dismissed by modern scientism. scientism’s recent success has been thoroughly documented by pomo philosophers like baudrillard and land—the sovereignty of the object in the contemporary world. now it falls in the hands of deleuze’s students (us, now that he’s /ourguy/) to re-establish the subject in lived duration

why couldn’t plato formulate a satisfying response? is it because one doesn’t exist without first destroying some of the most basic presumptions of the dominant metaphysic?
first person to think it can be explained away by limits must lurk for another six months before posting

plato discusses this in parmenides. now, there is a lot to dig into in parmenides, but let's start with zeno's paradox...
>it's a limit!
>this can be solved with maths
okay, okay, now that the children have stopped their tantrum, how can we resolve this without overthrowing the most basic metaphysic that grounds nearly all of our conceptions about reality? can we?

this kills the determinist