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>>23500722
>My questions at what point does this go from Pseudo-Initiation to Counter-Initiation.

You cannot disconnect counter-initiation from (true initiation) for their Advent in History shares the same common source in terms of the preceding cycle and our current cycle.

You don't seem to understand what Guénon means by pseudo-iniatiation, pseudo-traditions and what is counter-initation

>The Yezidi legend of the ‘7 Towers of Shaitan’, according to René Guénon, represents the tenebrous distortion or malign caricature of the 7 Poles (Aqtab) in Islamic esoterism, the ‘Saints of Satan’ embodying a devilish inversion and mimicry of the Sapta-Rishi of Vedic tradition or the 7 Apkallu in Mesopotamian lore who are associated with the constellation of Ursa Major – this infernal sense is conveyed in the connection of Set-Typhon

Crowley's Thelema was revealed to him by an entity called 'Aiwass'
> At some point Jacobs shared with Crowley Jacobs’s theory that Aiwaz was the proper name of the god of the Yezidis (in a 1929 interview Jacobs himself identified the name “Aiwaz” with Satan). Based on the scholarship of the time, it was believed that the Yezidis, a Kurdish people located in northern Iraq, worshipped a primitive form of Satan. This became the basis of Crowley’s subsequent identification of Aiwaz with Satan in Magick in Theory and Practice, especially in “Liber Samekh” in the Appendix, which in turn he identified with the Egyptian god Set

Guénon explains, what we have here is the “historical” origin of Satanism and of the counterinitiation, in other words of all that which, in revolt against the divine order, undertakes to use the power inherent in sacred forms contrary to their true sense, an inverted parody that takes the infranatural for the supernatural. Such an “inside out” use presupposes the loss of the sense of the supernatural, and therefore a certain degeneration of the sacred forms where such an inversion first occurs; and, once actualized, such an inferior and rightly infernal possibility will obviously attempt to seize all religious forms, even in the full strength of their orthodoxy. Under the circumstances, Guénon links this origin to the disappearance of Atlantis—the inheritor of which the Egyptian tradition was in part—and to the symbolic data provided by the sixth chapter of Genesis. This chapter recounts how certain angels coveted the “daughters of men” and united with them. Now there is, in fact, one text among others of the Hermetic tradition that relates this mysterious event to Set-Typhon.

This is not pseudo-initiation.

René Guénon does say that the West is the vanguard of decadence, but he casts the blame for this, and for all the evil in the world, on the underground and secret action and influence of the “Seven Towers of the Devil” and their geographical approximations

>>20107760
Where are you from Guenonchad? I am interested in what place birthed such an interesting character like yourself?

Continuing some discussion from the last thread

René Guénon does say that the West is the vanguard of decadence, but he casts the blame for this, and for all the evil in the world, on the underground action of the “Seven Towers of the Devil,”

Projected on a map, the Seven Towers form the exact contour of the constellation of Ursa Major. The bear, Russia’s national emblem, represents in traditional symbolism the military class, kshatriya, in cyclical rebellion against spiritual authority. Jean-Marc Allemand mentions, respecting this matter, “the forced militarization that inevitably accompanies Marxism and serves as its basis.” And he continues: “This excessive warlike feature—and utterly inverted in relation to the original and subordinate function of the military caste—is the ultimate result of the revolt of the kshatriyas; in this sense, the USSR/Russia is really the land of the Ursa.

Historically, we might consider Cultural Marxism still embodying this "rebellion" that lead to the overthrow of Tsarist Faction in Russia and now the dissolution continues in spheres that are more connected to the cultural and family life of Western Nations (Homosexuality, Trans-Sexualism, Homosexualism etc.)

Guénon never interpreted the East-West symbolism as a gross Manichean opposition between good and evil. As a profound scholar in Islamic tradition, he always took into consideration one of the most renowned ahadith, in which the Islamic prophet, pointing towards the East, stated: “The Antichrist will come from there.” Among the main centers of diffusion of “counter-initiation,” as Guénon pointed out the centers of counter-initiation are not located in the West; but there is one in Sudan, one in Nigeria, one in Syria, one in Iraq, one in Turkestan (inside the former USSR), and there are two in the Urals, well within Russian territory.

But as the Constellation of Ursa Major revolves around Pole Star (forming a Swastika in its revolving), Guénon suspected of a Secret Center and at least existence of one center

In later years of his life, Guénon suspected that there was an additional center of evil located in California (cont in my next post with Letter from Guénon to Arturo Reghini)