/lit/ - Literature

>>5983692
Well the core of our different understanding could be summed up (i think) in the point that:

>the society is for the individual
>the individual is for the society

For the sake of argument, in the term society lets consider the Aristotelian -polis or the Hegelian topography. In short: family, city, state, nation.

As such, how could one argue that a person wishing death should/must endure life for the sake of his society? Why should the focus not be on the society to accept his choice? Here I would point out the role of the family.

If a father commits suicide and leaves the family in debt, then hes a dick but then he's seen as an income and not as a person.

If a person (say elderly patron upon whom no one is dependent for their existence) decides he wants to die because life has become too much of a burden for him, why and on what ground should the family allow themselves to emotionally blackmail him into something thats against his individual wishes?

My last point would be that the individual is only obligated towards himself when it comes to matters like suicide. Projecting a moral obligation outside oneself when it comes to self-negation is not only ludicrous, but impossible to establish.

>How so?

Lets assume the Epicurean notion that all joy is just the negation of suffering, for instance:
>food staves of hunger
>sleep staves of fatigue
Add to that the differentiation between the body and "soul" ("soul" in this case being mind and reason separate from the body)
How much joy can you place outside from the body?
>sex is a physiological need, if not fulfilled can lead to a myriad of physical and emotional (including the soul now) issues.

When you weigh "joys" like this you come to the conclusion that:
>A. physical pleasures are momentary negation of suffering (and suffering is the default state)
>B. biological guidelines that define us. Love for instance. We like "love". We love to love our children because our very makeup dictates we should. Since no one person can rationally argue the need for an individual to have children, the point is made in the fact that the irrational (vestigial) is making us feel better about things we "normally" shouldn't.

If you agree with this, then you get to the point that most joys aren't really "joys". And that suffering is the default state of man. Once you conclude on that, the alternative -death. The complete leveling cannot be seen as bad.

Thus I believe the presupposition that life - good, death - bad really needs to be reavaluated from an individualist/perspectivist point of view.

Those would be my two cents on thath.

>>5201804
looks like you forgot the rest of the frames

Accepted an offer for B.Teaching/B.Arts at a farily big university. Currently gonna major in english, minor in history, and do creative writing electives.

Go to orientation week, tie up loose ends and attend some preliminary lectures n' stuff.

tfw I'm lapping up all the "academic thought" wankery.

attend the "english: ideas of the real" prelim lecture

professor is some 40 y.o. dyke that looks like she's trying to be the next ellen degenres

get told the second book we're studying is great expectations

Dunno how to feel about what I've signed up for now

Tell me, c/lit/s, how fucked am I? Anyone here done an english major?

>>4592600
>listening to teen spirit

some of nirvana wasn't that bad.... but teen spirit?

>>4576738
So I'm just imagining that I'm happy. Wow. Thanks for correcting me there.

>>4449785

And in the corner you will sit, hating her, satisfied with how much smarter you are, and how inexpressable that intelligence is to "plebs" such as they.

Gravity is oppressing me.
Electromagnetic radiation is oppressing me.
The strong force is oppressing me.
EVEN THE WEAK FORCE IS OPPRESSING ME.

MY BODY IS OPPRESSING ME.

ALL SYSTEMS ARE OPPRESSION

LOGGING OUT NOW KTHX UNIVERSE

>>4254016
>Name one good Russian movie.
r u a retard

>>3481250
hello