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>>12975416
>consciousness is an emergent property of information processing, and thought/senses/memory are physical properties tied to specific organs.

you think you already know what consciousness and thoughts are, what are you asking for exactly? You just want someone to articulate your ideas a little for you? Or perhaps the prestige of academia to back up your claims.

My advice: unlearn all that shit, de-robotize yourself, join the ontology guerilla.

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>>12838426
it's either a story about people doing things, or it's just ideas being discussed and explained. This is the distinction I'm talking about.
>>12838439
It may even have the greatest insights of any story. I'm a big fan.
Still, when we use this metaphor, "waking up" from some previous state of obliviousness or ignorance, we are talking about a totally different process in one's mind.
A story may shock, enthrall, motivate, even teach. But to truly wake up, that takes work. The book I posted teaches you what that means, and how to go about this work. So, clearly, much more directly about "waking up"
I'll bring up Prometheus Rising too. A great introduction.

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Is Prometheus Rising good? I've always been interested in such stuff or is it just a meme book.

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>>12792633
take the green pill

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>>12543172
you will only cease to be a mindless automaton when you can reprogram yourself.

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>>12419007
Wilson uses the term "de-robotize", but I think you're going for the same thing.
My advice: There's no amount of philosophy that can induce brain-change. Changing your mind is about a PROCESS.

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>>12403719
I won't be joining you, I don't exactly agree with your methodology, but I think you'll have a productive experience either way. Good luck! Here's that rec.

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>>12397373
been a while since the last /schizo/ thread

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>>12388229
you've realized that all reality-tunnels are essentially arbitrary.
generalize this knowledge:
>The map is not the territory.
now go beyond:
just because they are fundamentally illusory, doesn't mean they can't be useful. Choose your realities, use them and discard them as needed.

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es verdad lo que dice este libro o es otra basura de la nueva era?

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>>12252908
motivating one's self amounts to doing something which, going by common sense, is a contradiction in terms: thinking thoughts which aren't the thoughts you think.

The book says "wake up bright and early and pump yourself up for a good jog and a nice breakfast!". But that is simply not what happens. These thoughts do not occur to me in the mornings. I may try to give myself physical reminders, but they wear off in a few of days, they blend into the normality of my daily life, and my habits return to normal as well.

And so it seems that whatever I'm thinking, that's what I think. If I thought some totally different thoughts, then those would just be what I normally think. And just what the hell am "I" if not my thoughts anyways?? Can one change one's thoughts? how?

try pic related.

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>>12252908
motivating one's self amounts to do something which, going by common sense, is contradiction in terms: thinking thoughts which aren't the thoughts you think.

The book says "wake up bright and early and pump yourself up for a good jog and a nice breakfast!". But that is simply not what happens. These thoughts do not occur to me in the mornings. I may try to give myself physical reminders, but they wear off in a few of days, they blend into the normality of my daily life, and my habits return to normal as well.

And so it seems that whatever I'm thinking, that's what I think. If I thought what I don't think, then that would be what I thought. Just what the hell am "I" if not my thoughts anyways?? Can one change one's thoughts? how?

I recommend starting with pic related.

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>>12239406
>>12239441
de-robotize yourself

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Redpill me on Prometheus Rising

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>>12156070
read RAW, hit the gym, de-robotize yourself, lawyer up, etc, etc

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>>12130975
that's an example of dogma, it's not *about* dogma

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>>12070739
Prometheus Rising. Or do you want to be a robot your whole life?

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>>12019703
(obligatory this is not a meme, actually go check it out.)

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Did somebody ask for a way to effect brain-change?

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>>11928413

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>>11901344
Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson.

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In two hours I will move semi-permanently to another country. Which books can help me overcome the Fear?

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>>11740364
>how to enact [brain change]?



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