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Through the heart and through the tongue something developed into Atum's
image.
And great and important is Ptah,
who gave life to all the gods and their kas as well
through this heart and this tongue
5 through which Horus and Thoth both became Ptah.
It has developed that the heart and tongue have control of all limbs,
showing that he is preeminent in every body and in every mouth of all the gods, and all people, all animals, and all crawling things that liveplanning and governing everything he wishes.
10 His Ennead is before him, in teeth and lips that seed and those hands of Atum:
for it is through his seed and his fingers that Atum's Ennead developed,
but the Ennead is teeth and lips in this mouth
that pronounced the identity of everything,
15 and from which Shu and Tefnut emerged
and gave birth to the Ennead.
The eyes' seeing, the ears' hearing, the nose's breathing of air send up to the
heart,
and it is what causes every conclusion to emerge;
it is the tongue that repeats what the heart plans.
20 So were all the gods born,
Atum and his Ennead as well,
for it is through what the heart plans and the tongue commands that every
divine speech has developed.
So were the male life-principles made
and the female life-principles set in place25 they who make all sustenance and every offeringthrough that word that makes what is loved and what is hated.
So has life been given to him who has calm
and death given to him who has wrongdoing.
So was made all construction and all craft,
30 the hands' doing, the feet's going, and every limb's movement,
according as he governs that which the heart thinks,
which emerges through the tongue,
and which facilitates everything.
It has developed that Ptah is called "He who made all and caused the gods to
develop,"
35 since he is Ta-tenen, who gave birth to the gods,
from whom everything has emerged food-offerings and sustenance, gods' offerings, and every perfect thing.
So is it found and recognized that his physical strength is greater than the gods'.
So has Ptah come to rest after his making everything and every divine speech as
well,
40 having given birth to the gods,
having made their villages,
having founded their nomes,
having set the gods in their cult-places,
having made sure their bread-offerings,
45 having founded their shrines,
having made their bodies resemble what contents them.
So have the gods entered their bodies of every kind of wood, every kind of mineral, every kind of frit,
everything that grows all over him, in which they have developed.
50 So were gathered to him all the gods and their kas as well,
content and combined in the lord of the Two Lands.

>>16411343
>Esoteric Mysteries do not even concern themselves with philosophy or ontological systems
You can make a theogonic diagram out of every faith.
And it depends on what you mean with 'philosphy', Platonism (philosophy) IS Esoteric Mystery, it's the whole poin behind it.

pened yet to anyone for human offspring.
“Even you, Socrates, could probably come to be initiated into these rites
of love. But as for the purpose of these rites when they are done correctly—
that is the final and highest mystery, and I don’t know if you are capable
of it. I myself will tell you,” she said, “and I won’t stint any effort. And
you must try to follow if you can.
“A lover who goes about this matter correctly must begin in his youth
to devote himself to beautiful bodies. First, if the leader45 leads aright, he
should love one body and beget beautiful ideas there; then he should
b realize that the beauty of any one body is brother to the beauty of any
other and that if he is to pursue beauty of form he’d be very foolish not
to think that the beauty of all bodies is one and the same. When he grasps
this, he must become a lover of all beautiful bodies, and he must think
that this wild gaping after just one body is a small thing and despise it.
“After this he must think that the beauty of people’s souls is more
valuable than the beauty of their bodies, so that if someone is decent in
c his soul, even though he is scarcely blooming in his body, our lover must
be content to love and care for him and to seek to give birth to such ideas
as will make young men better. The result is that our lover will be forced
to gaze at the beauty of activities and laws and to see that all this is akin
to itself, with the result that he will think that the beauty of bodies is a
thing of no importance. After customs he must move on to various kinds
of knowledge. The result is that he will see the beauty of knowledge and d
be looking mainly not at beauty in a single example—as a servant would
who favored the beauty of a little boy or a man or a single custom (being
a slave, of course, he’s low and small-minded)—but the lover is turned to
the great sea of beauty, and, gazing upon this, he gives birth to many
gloriously beautiful ideas and theories, in unstinting love of wisdom,
until, having grown and been strengthened there, he catches sight of such e
knowledge, and it is the knowledge of such beauty . . .

(250,6) Another hymn to Khnum-Re,
God of the potter's wheel,
Who settled the land by his handiwork;
Who joins in secret,
Who builds soundly.'
Who nourishes the nestlings by the breath of his mouth;
Who drenches this land with Nun,
While round sea and great ocean surround him.

He has fashioned gods and men,
He has formed flocks and herds;
He made birds as well as fishes,
He created bulls, engendered cows.

He knotted the flow of blood to the bones,
Formed in his workshop as his handiwork,
So the breath of life is within everything,
Blood bound with semen in the bones,
To knit the bones from the start.
He makes women give birth when the womb is ready,
So as to open --- as he wishes;
He soothes suffering by his will,
Relieves throats, lets everyone breathe,
To give life to the young in the womb.

He made hair sprout and tresses grow,
Fastened the skin over the limbs;
He built the skull, formed the cheeks,
To furnish shape to the image.
He opened the eyes, hollowed the ears,
He made the body inhale air;
He formed the mouth for eating,
Made the gorge for swallowing.

He also formed the tongue to speak,
The jaws to open, the gullet to drink,
The throat to swallow and spit.
The spine to give support,
The testicles to move,
The arm to act with vigor,
The rear to perform its task.
The gullet to devour,
Hands and their fingers to do their work,
The heart to lead .
The loins to support the phallus
In the act of begetting.
The frontal organs to consume things.
The rear to aerate the entrails,
Likewise to sit at ease,
And sustain the entrails at night.
The male member to beget,
The womb to conceive,
And increase generations in Egypt.
The bladder to make water,
The virile member to eject
When it swells between the thighs.
The shins to step,
The legs to tread ,
Their bones doing their task,
By the will of his heart.

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Nothing causes the collapsed position of the wave-function, even if something causes the initiation of the collapse, the result is found in chaos.

>>16000213
i never make threads
so this you of yours is plural
We are this board's salvation.

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Chapter 118. On the Language of the Absolute
They therefore must no longer be called three when their being three is added to them, since no otherness is manifest in that realm. Yet unless we speak in a human dialect concerning the most divine principles, we are otherwise not able to conceive them or to name them, except as we are compelled to use reason on behalf of the realities that turn out to be beyond every intellect, life, and substance. Indeed, even the gods thus instruct some of us occasionally concerning these and other realities, [though] not in the way that reveals the nature of the realities that the god themselves contemplate. Just as they speak to Egyptians, Syrians, or Greeks using the language appropriate to them, else it would be fruitless to speak to them, so they are eager to transmit to human beings that which belongs [to the divine] and they will use a human dialect, as is right. Yet this dialect is not only composed of verbs and nouns, but it is also composed from conceptions that are suitable and adjusted to human beings. If, therefore, we also get off the track of that truth as we attempt to chart the intelligible abyss, to see how great and what its nature is, and we are carried toward the lower and divided realities, as we are by necessity dragged along with or dragged down by our own meager nothingness, nevertheless it is necessary to endure missing and drifting [from the goal]. Otherwise, it is not possible, in our present state, to have any conception concerning these things, and we must be content even if only with a far-off and obscure glance or glimpse or trace suddenly fl ashing before our eyes, however small and not very luminous, but nevertheless a signpost for us that is an analogue of that superluminous and vast nature. But this much we can accept in our discourse, that it castigates itself and agrees that it is not capable of looking at that unifi ed and intelligible light.

>>15815364
monotheism and polytheism is abrahamic invented lie, "polytheism" has never existed.
>>15815488
are you saying this like it means soething?
the legend of Thales says this, Pythagoreans praise this idea, Plato openly revered Egypt. Plutarch and Aristotle also claimed this. the Neoplatonists used this very idea as proof of their validity (which modern studies keep proving).
>this has been discussed here in this thread
by a guy who sounds like Duginist Prot, with protestantisim you can claim whatever the fuck you want as true
Christ is the poor man's Prometheus and Dionysus

eternal damnation
creation ex nihilo
that the world and time isn't eternal
inspirational monolopoly fr the jews then church councils/pope
god's jealousy
horrid acts by god in the bible, old and new (sending bears to ill children for bantering and making innocent jokes
the loss of free will in heaven (incapacity to choose evil that would lead to another fall)
that the soul isn't pre-existent
that there is no reincarnation beyond the second birth in the rapture
that the world is evil and must be annihilated completely and then make a new universe
that god freely created satan and all eternally damned souls is evil, a good being would have opted out from creating any soul he'd foresee to be eternally damned.

and this is just from the top of my head

>>15758042
christians are also gnostics
anyone who wails at Nature is

But nature compels us to it. “Go out of this world,” says she, “as you entered into it; the same pass you made from death to life, without passion or fear, the same, after the same manner, repeat from life to death. Your death is a part of the order of the universe, ‘tis a part of the life of the world.
“Mortals, amongst themselves, live by turns, and, like the runners in the games, give up the lamp, when they have won the race, to the next comer.—” Lucretius, ii. 75, 78.]
“Shall I exchange for you this beautiful contexture of things? ‘Tis the condition of your creation; death is a part of you, and whilst you endeavour to evade it, you evade yourselves. This very being of yours that you now enjoy is equally divided betwixt life and death. The day of your birth is one day’s advance towards the grave:
[“The first hour that gave us life took away also an hour.” —Seneca, Her. Fur., 3 Chor. 874.]
[“As we are born we die, and the end commences with the beginning.” —Manilius, Ast., iv. 16.]
“All the whole time you live, you purloin from life and live at the expense of life itself. The perpetual work of your life is but to lay the foundation of death. You are in death, whilst you are in life, because you still are after death, when you are no more alive; or, if you had rather have it so, you are dead after life, but dying all the while you live; and death handles the dying much more rudely than the dead, and more sensibly and essentially. If you have made your profit of life, you have had enough of it; go your way satisfied.

>>15745013
God is all-seeing Ether: look and pray to him at dawn, looking to the east.

>>15653446
Soul always has a body.
And God will throw you down into forgetfulness if you refuse to descend to Becoming as a Guardian.

“Observe then,” said I, “that this part of such a soul, if it had been hammered from childhood, and had thus been struck free of the leaden weights, so to speak, of our birth [519b] and becoming, which attaching themselves to it by food and similar pleasures and gluttonies turn downwards the vision of the soul—If, I say, freed from these, it had suffered a conversion towards the things that are real and true, that same faculty of the same men would have been most keen in its vision of the higher things, just as it is for the things toward which it is now turned.”
“It is likely,” he said.
“Well, then,” said I, “is not this also likely and a necessary consequence of what has been said, that neither could men who are uneducated and inexperienced in truth ever adequately [519c] preside over a state, nor could those who had been permitted to linger on to the end in the pursuit of culture—the one because they have no single aim and purpose in life to which all their actions, public and private, must be directed, and the others, because they will not voluntarily engage in action, believing that while still living they have been transported to the Islands of the Blest.”
“True,” he said.
“It is the duty of us, the founders, then,” said I, “to compel the best natures to attain the knowledge which we pronounced the greatest, and to win to the vision of the good, [519d] to scale that ascent, and when they have reached the heights and taken an adequate view, we must not allow what is now permitted.”
“What is that?”
“That they should linger there,” I said, “and refuse to go down again among those bondsmen and share their labors and honors, whether they are of less or of greater worth.”
“Do you mean to say that we must do them this wrong, and compel them to live an inferior life when the better is in their power?” [519e]
“You have again forgotten, my friend,” said I, “that the law is not concerned with the special happiness of any class in the state, but is trying to produce this condition in the city as a whole, harmonizing and adapting the citizens to one another by persuasion and compulsion, and requiring them to impart to one another any benefit [520a] which they are severally able to bestow upon the community, and that it itself creates such men in the state, not that it may allow each to take what course pleases him, but with a view to using them for the binding together of the commonwealth.”
“True,” he said, “I did forget it.”

I don't know what a patron saint is, nor am i christian and have never been; yesterday I signed the papers to leave the Swedish "christian" church that I was "baptized" into (luckily prot baptism doesn't count since it isn't full submersion).

hold my Ineffable
>Neither "the one" nor "all things" accords with the One. These are a pair of binary oppositions that divide our consciousness of the One. If we focus on the One as simple, we lose sight of the complete perfection of that principle. But if we conceive it as all things simultaneously, we destroy its unity and simplicity. The cause of this is that we ourselves are divided and we distractedly consider its characteristics as if they were separate.

>>15289607
It is evident in the faces of your children. In the beauty of music. In completion of a goal.
In the longing of the night in silence waiting for the dawn of the sun.

>It is certainly thus that the Nous, hiding itself from all the outer, withdrawing to the inmost, seeing nothing, must have its vision- not of some other light in some other thing but of the light within itself, unmingled, pure, suddenly gleaming before it; So that we are left wondering whence it came, from within or without; and when it has gone, we say, "It was here. Yet no; it was beyond!" But we ought not to question whence; there is no whence, no coming or going in place; now it is seen and now not seen. We must not run after it, but fit ourselves for the vision and then wait tranquilly for its appearance, as the eye waits on the rising of the sun, which in its own time appears above the horizon- out of the ocean, as the poets say- and gives itself to our sight.

Orpheus
Pindar
Keats
Shelley
Coleridge

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