/lit/ - Literature

>>18440469
this

>>18318087
I've been studying it ever since covid hit and here is my advice.

Start with Homeric Greek and use Pharr (a) or the most recent one Reading Course in Homeric Greek (b). In my next post, I'll copy paste Pharr's argument for the beginner starting with Homeric Greek over Attic.
a) https://archive.org/details/homericgreekabo00phargoog

b, book 1) https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=187CE57C79A379173D5CC751278700C1

b, book 2) https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=C2C8A5B1EA588A56839E01047C56DD8B

Resources for Homeric Greek
1) https://commons.mtholyoke.edu/hrgs/
This website has video lessons that match with Pharr's textbook. Only downside is that words are pronounced with a heavy American accent.

2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJTq1rtB22U&list=PLv6lcWTkqoQgLuiUXHWE_b96RmvR4CIw7
This is an alternative that is also based on Pharr's textbook. Suffers the same issue of a heavy American accent.

3) https://bridge.haverford.edu/select/
A website that outputs an excel sheet of vocab to be easily imported into anki to make a deck of cards within minutes

If you are more interested in Attic, use Athenaze and use the following recordings. Get the Teacher's handbook off libgen for insta translation of the reading passages and to correct your exercises.

1) https://www.patreon.com/posts/36186862
Although these audio recordings are on patreon, Luke provides these for free. He uses the Lucian pronunciation and it's essentially a hybrid of Modern/Attic. Benefits: free and not done with an American accent

2) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qkvdseujnlsfa26/AABsBWkmL3WvfI7GcIk4fiCOa?dl=0
Audio recordings using the Reconstructed Attic pronunciation. Benefits: free and doesn't have a heavy American accent.

3) https://app.memrise.com/course/2029892/athenaze-vocab-with-audio/
Prebuilt vocab deck for Athenaze books 1 & 2. Uses the Modern Greek pronunciation.

Finally, if you don't know shit about grammar in your own language or any other language, it's going to be like climbing a mountain with your legs cut off. Despite that, make sure you understand the grammatical concepts being taught in Greek and your native lang before continuing on to the next chapter.

>>18149049
You are half right, half wrong. Translating poetry is essentially dead on arrival for one main reason: sound. You can translate ideas, images, and plot but not the blood of poetry, which is sound. On top of this, translation has two paths it can take. The first is being literal and, as a consequence, awkward. The second is being liberal, i.e. idiomatic, and, as a consequence, unfaithful. A middle road may be taken but you will eventually encounter a fork in road where you'll have to make a sacrifice.
In some cases, a handful of translators, who were poets themselves, may be able to carry over the sound but this would depend on the language it would be translated into (e.g. from Italian to Spanish or German into English), but it would be almost impossible to do that with Italian into English.

>he doesn't have a literate slave to read to him from a scroll as he reclines upon a triclinium with another slave feeding him grapes
plebs

If we put all together, that the school-boy rehearses, that the rabble relates, and that the philosopher demonstrates about spirits, this would seem to constitute no small part of our knowledge. Nevertheless, I dare assert that all these gossip could be placed in a most awkward embarrassment, if it should occur to somebody to insist upon the question, just what kind of a thing that is about which these people think they understand so much. The methodical talk of universities is often simply an agreement to beg a question which is difficult to solve, by the variable meaning of words, which the most obvious pseuds profess. For we seldom hear at academies the comfortable and ofttimes reasonable “I do not know.” Certain newer philosophers, as they like to be called, overcome this question easily. A spirit, they say, is a being possessed of reason. Then it is no miracle to see spirits; for he who sees men, sees beings possessing reason. But, they continue, this being in man, possessing reason, is only a part of man, and this part, the animating part, is a spirit. Very well then. Before you prove that only a spiritual being can have reason, take care that first of all I understand what kind of conception I must have of a spiritual being. Self-deception in this matter, while large enough to be seen with eyes half-open, is moreover of very evident origin. For, later on and in old age, we are sure to know nothing of that which was very well known to us at an early date, as children, and the man of thoroughness finally becomes at best a sophist in regard to his youthful delusions. Let us all reflect the reflections of the great thinker, Kanthegelschopenneitezche.

>>17222601
pt: homem
fr: homme
sp: hombre