/lit/ - Literature

>>12256359

>>9966720

I used to think philosophy could answer questions, but now that I've studied it "legitimately" I just think it's masturbation for verbally gifted people - with exception to some political philosophy. I don't find it practical for solving just about any crisis you or society has and I feel wholly disappointed in having taken so long to realize that. Not to mention I went in debt for something useless. What are my options when I graduate this year? Teach abroad or grad school. Out-fucking-standing.

>>9966798
This guy is correct in saying that there is a sort of inflexible harem of scholars for whom touching anything that upsets their moral intuitions in tantamount to burning everything down, but in my case they were obfuscatory, curmudgeonly, hardline continental folk

>>9942861

not an oldfag but 22 will be graduating at 25, just have a question for you wise sages, though most of you just seem to be alcoholics t b h

Did you guys ever make anything of your humanities degree? I'm thinking either law school, trying to force my way into marketing or supply chain, or moving to vietnam and teach while i pay down my debt

things are kind of up in the air family and my philosophy degree isn't going to land me on wall street, which I knew, but I'm just kind of hoping I'm not looking forward to a life of abject poverty, debt, and homelessness family

>>9924595
>>9924679

Yes, STEM, but also history, classical studies, and philosophy. There's no denying that STEM has a bit of an issue with scientism but what I meant by rigorous was that STEM is more intellectually demanding than sociology. It's just harder, and you can't bullshit and phone in courses like you can in arts.

>>9753980

It's not even factually correct. I guess this is what being a manlet does to your cognitive ability.

>>8779660

Huh, oddly relevant thread to my current predicament.

I'm a first year philosophy student, meaning I've taken like two philosophy courses and mostly gen eds.

Today I was forced by time to choose whether or not I would go down the path of earning a philosophy degree or earning a "practical" degree. I, at my loathsome behest, chose the practical degree.

Tomorrow I'll be enrolling in myriad accounting, econ, and management courses for a degree in supply chain management. I always thought my practical degree would be engineering, specifically electrical engineering, because circuits and logic are my fetish. But after some research I found out that engineers have surprisingly little upward mobility after ~$120k, so I chose a versatile degree which allows me to nab an MBA and become a soulless money-fiend.

I'm trying to romanticize it by LARPing my future self as if I'm ilk of some sort of Mad Man, Madison Avenue-esque drinker and philanderer, but it's not working. I truly don't care about this career, but I have a family to take care of, including a sick mother. If I majored in philosophy I would feel too God damn guilty about how much I could've helped my struggling family that took care of me while I grew up, so I just can't follow through with it.

As much as I'd love to study my passions, it's just not feasible. I'm jealous of you wealthybros who don't have too much to worry about in the way of finances, but I'm also happy for you. Study the shit out of philosophy for me.

Not really sure what the point of this was but OP's timing was just right and I need to vent.

>>8720200

>philosophy degrees are completely useless

I mean if you were going to make the case for uselessness it should be any degree in the humanities but phil.

avg. mid-career earnings of people with BA's in phil. and nothing else is in the ballpark of ~80k, making it literally the only non useless degree coming from the humanities departments

I mean this is all regardless of whether or not you think it has a purpose or anything.

Clearly 1 of 2 things are happening, or both:
1) smart people are selecting philosophy
2) people who study philosophy gain perspective, clarity, etc.

probably a combination of both, either way the market has spoken