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oh man. that kind of picture gets me right in the feels, where neoplatonism crosses paths with the chakras &c. absolute hnng.

*insanity management:* the basic question of therapy, analysis, and much else. we are bonded in circles internally and perhaps civilizationally, but it absolutely could be a sort of an upward-heading gyre of positive growth. or, as ken wilber says, the atman project. an expanded and enlarged circle of concern that in the present age hits a deadlock because the axioms of a given plateau are called into question: what do you do about maximum pluralism, maximum inclusivity? you have to move things to a higher level, or else things begin a downward spiral. maybe, in some deep way, a necessary process of withdrawal, but it doesn't necessarily have a natural point of reversal either: the endgame of the process is feud and destruction. it's one of the things that i like about chardin as well: the possibility of a benevolent overman. the superman doesn't have to be a concept to which the final word always belongs to nietzsche. and a superhumanity > individual superman. but this kind of stuff throws people into a tizzy, and for good reason.

>man isn't ontologically guaranteed, he isn't the passage to higher man he is only a passage proper, to what is higher than man. this thing had to bootstrap itself out of the future because we are its auto-affectivity. we are the gyrification of the absolute, spun so tight things will hopefully start to look flat and blank and pure again

raaaaargh. preach that shit *all day long* mi amigo. all day long. this is exactly the kind of stuff i was hoping this thread would percolate. make me a fucking believer

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cheers m8. a little rambly but i'm finding this book quite clarifying in a lot of ways. wilber has his flaky parts to be sure but so does everyone. and this dovetails quite nicely with the other guys on sacrifice who i think are pretty interesting these days - girard, bataille, others.

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>At any rate, by the time we arrive at the mythic-membership-self, that self is already a compound individual of all the previous levels of evolu tion—matter and plant and reptile (uroboros), higher mammal and image formation (typhon), as well as the new and “capping” verbal mind (mem bership). Thus man at this stage contains uroboros and typhon and mythic mind all encapsulated in one organism. Most importantly, each of these levels continues to function and continues to live in man. That is, each of these levels in man expresses its needs and maintains its own existence through systems of relationships or exchanges with the corresponding levels in the outer world. Thus: man’s physical body (pleroma and ali mentary uroboros) depends for its existence on a system of literal ex changes with other physical, mineral, and vegetative bodies, epitomized in the act of eating, or food exchange. His higher animal body (typhon) is a system of exchanges with other living animal bodies, epitomized in the act of human biological sex, but including all emotional intercourse in general. His linguistic (membership) mind is a system of symbol exchanges or communication with other minds. All of these systems of exchange are nothing but the various levels of the Great Chain as they appear, enwrapped and enfolded, in the human compound individual.

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