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>>21618306
Wtf u on about, EROI is one of the easiest concepts ever. Literally barrels in barrels out. If you spend more barrels of energy than you receive in return, you're screwed. Like caloric deficit, it leads to starvation. But you start getting problems long before that.

>>21618381
You're a fucking idiot. EROI doesn't measure money, it measures energy.

>Getting energy uses less effort than anytime in history
The EROI of oil was in fact lowest when we first started using it as an energy source - late 19th and early 20th centuries. There were literal lakes of oil on the ground and swamps. The business was to use fucking buckets to scoop it. EROI was about 100 and now it's getting into single digit territory. Shale is much, much worse. The only reason shale ever became a thing was because of massive unprofitable investment in the US.

Fiat money is completely irrelevant to the equation. EROI is a thermodynamic limitation, money a social one. And printing money doesn't alter thermodynamics, ie. it merely pushes the costs around (via inflation), but never decreases them.

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