/lit/ - Literature

>>22944367
>although it is interesting when scientists say things about time and space breaking down in the extreme conditions of physics
but they never doubt that there IS something that happens at that level which is knowable. the whole string theory thing is literally a theory about that kind of thing, the only problem is that the "extreme conditions" are so extreme that we can't do any experiments at that level to determine what happens. the problem is not that time and space breaks down because in theory we can still create elaborate enough mathematics to model even that, the only reason it would be unknowable is due to the practical limitations of what kind of experiments we can design.

most people have absolutely no idea why mathematics works and if they started questioning it it would appear strange that a purely biological organism like the brain should be able to "tap into" something that goes beyond the particular mind that conceives it and is truly universal. Kant's philosophy is a solution to this because he preserves both the arbitrariness of the brain and the universal validity of mathematics. yet probably most post-kantian philosophers believe that mathematics is both valid and not merely subjective to the brain. There are mathematical platonists like Badiou and Meillassoux and and also people like Russell and Peirce. Whitehead essentially introduces the notion of a God that can explain how the brain can tap into mathematical objects because the primordial act of God is to order the eternal objects so that the right ones are relevant to the right forms of entities, that way an eternal object can ingress into a particular entity like a brain.

>>22412012
>westoids are materialists who only care about quanti-ACK

>>22408942
whoops, wrong pic haha sorry guys

Where do I start with whitehead? What books what order and so on.

How much Hegel should I know first, too?

>>20587536
>Whitehead
I guess Process and Reality counts as weird fiction.

>>20571547
In general terms, yes, of course.

What the fuck did this guy do? I've seen him posted thousands of times but have no idea a single thing he has ever said. I even read his wikipedia and skimmed his book and still have no clue

more like tritehead because all he wrote was trite

>Suppose our American culture were wiped out: whom have we produced so far who would stand as a lasting contribution to the world.
>Walt Whitman.
>Not Emerson?
>I read Emerson a good deal when I was younger, but if my good neighbours, the Forbeses, will pardon me for saying so, (they are grandsons of Emerson) he was not so original. But Whitman brought something into poetry which was never there before. Much of what he says is so new that he even had to invent a form for saying it. Whitman seems to me to have been one of the few very great poets that have ever lived. He can stand easily beside the really great European poets. . . . If English civilization had perished prior to the year 1500, the loss would not have been great. Chaucer is not of the stature of Dante or Homer, and though we have some fine cathedrals, English Gothic is not really as good as French Gothic; but if you destroyed the English civilization from 1500 to 1900, you would make the world much poorer, for it did add something important to the development of the human spirit.
~Taken From Whitehead's Dialogues.

I think this is a very interesting take. It's very strange to hear someone say that English civilization has more value post-1500 than before. Though I do disagree with his sentiment on Emerson. It's clear to anyone that he is not the poet Whitman was, but I believe Emerson to be one of the most original thinkers in modern literature.
What do you guys think?

>>18133137
>pragmatism
A stepping stone to the last true philosopher of the West.

Whitehead is the forefront

>>16734248
Yes. Reality is a Process, sequences of events, not material objects.

>>16730794
Whitehead was a genious, when I read his positions of what God really is, everything just makes a lot of sense.

>>16602190
Out of the way, Kunt.

Just wondering where to start with him? Was thinking between The Concept of Nature and Process and Reality.

just read Whitehead faggot

>>8928848
>tfw too smart for pessimism.

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the philosophy of organism as the comfiest philosophy of all time.

Find a flaw.

Hint: you can't

Is anyone here know more than the superficial about Whiteheads process philosophy today? (Not what Latour or someone like him is doing but strict Whiteheadian) I know Nicholas Rescher and John B. Cobb, Jr exist but I don't "know" them aside from their names.

P.S the more people post helpful stuff the more motivated I am and thus will be finished quicker (and also the information itself helps!) and has an accumulative effect. The accumulative effect of good posts increases with each post. For every good post after this one 1 unit of motivation is added but the post after that post an extra unit is added and so and so on. autism

How do I get into modern logic?

Alfred North Whitehead has most accurately provided a system to explain real experience.

So who here is interested in the philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead/can understand him?

>that philosophy of an organism
>everything is defined by its relationships
>atomic existence lies in the occasion and not in the object
>the soul is a pathway of dead occasions with one living occasion at the growth point

based as fuck

The atomic becoming of an actual occasion is achieved by that occasion’s “prehensive” relations and its “extensive” relations. An actual occasion’s holistically felt and non-sequentially internalized concrete evaluations of its relationships to the rest of the world is the subject matter of the theory of “prehension,” part III of PR. This is easily one of the most difficult and complex portions of that work. The development that Whitehead is describing is so holistic and anti-sequential that it might appropriately be compared to James Joyce’s Finnegan’s Wake. An actual occasion “prehends” its world (relationally takes that world in) by feeling the “objective data” of past occasions which the new occasion utilizes in its own concrescence. This data is prehended in an atemporal and nonlinear manner, and is creatively combined into the occasion’s own manifest self-realization.