/lit/ - Literature

>>8424184
Not OP. I read this. It says very little to be honest.
It claims that the denihilist:
1. embraces the postmodern condition
2. rejects transcendental values and nihilism
3. acknowledges absurdity of transcendental ego
4. engages in bursts of spontaneous actualization

None of this actually tells you how to live life and escape the emptiness. When you've rejected everything that it claims to reject, where do you go? It sounds a lot like anarchism to be honest and that is reaffirmed in the last paragraph where it randomly espouses subversion of power structures.

On a casual glance it might seem as if this is a radical text but it really isn't. It's just another arbitrary and temporary "fix" with the only difference being that it at least acknowledges the arbitrariness of its own suggestion. It also trivializes human action by simply stating that any act can be carried out by "why not?" but it forgets that choosing which act to carry out at any instance is the primary question in ethics and philosophy. before it says "why not?" it must explain the "what". And it's suggestion is subverting power structures in society for some inexplicable reason.

>>8344291
>women are inferior to men in matters of justice, honesty, and conscientiousness
>women’s reasoning powers are weaker
>Because women in truth exist entirely for the propagation of the race, and their destiny ends here, they live more for the species than for the individual, and in their hearts take the affairs of the species more seriously than those of the individual
>It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of the fair sex; for the entire beauty of the sex is based on this instinct. One would be more justified in calling them the unaesthetic sex than the beautiful.
>This makes them incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything, and the reason for it is, I fancy, as follows. A man strives to get direct mastery over things either by understanding them or by compulsion. But a woman is always and everywhere driven to indirect mastery, namely through a man; all her direct mastery being limited to him alone. Therefore it lies in woman’s nature to look upon everything only as a means for winning man, and her interest in anything else is always a simulated one, a mere roundabout way to gain her ends, consisting of coquetry and pretence

literally all of this is pure vitriol and zero reason. i don't give a fuck that he indicted women. i just dislike the fact that he didn't justify himself when he made these points. it was basically

>women are x
>women are y
>women can be like z

but he never fucking gave a justification or explanation or reasoning for this shit. it seemed as if he got drunk and wrote a hateful ramble motivated purely out of spite instead of a philosophical investigation. FFS is it too much to ask a philosopher to fucking give an argument or reason for his claims?

>>8334509
I love you too anon. I know you want me to believe that you really do but even if that is true it is only because you don't know how despicable I really am. Your love would wane in a matter of weeks of knowing me (just like any affection anyone has shown me in my adult life has ebbed away the more they got to know me). i need to get used to being a miserable loner autist and grow some stoic balls.

>>8334450
>>8334577
good for you.

time to go get drunk and hope that I can acquiesce to being an unloved monster like a stoic would.

Speaking of the stoics: I feel as if their philosophy is directly related to "feeling less passionately" about things. To reduce the extent to which you attach value or meaning to things so that they don't affect you as much as a defence against grief. When you do that, don't you lose something? Something that makes us human? I know that loss of feeling is advantageous to miserable and sad people because it alleviates pain but I sometimes question whether I would want to be a numb, detached, indifferent stoic OR a miserable loner who takes risks in getting to know people, loving them and failing over and over in a cycle.

>>8245407
>Love and beauty are to be given and appreciated, not scrounged for desperately
You've spoken like a truly deluded person devoid of any and all lucidity. This is the state of a person who seems to have been brought up in a rich family with good genes and a good education and has never had to face crushing isolation or loneliness in life. Someone who is so blinded by all the happiness, pride and satisfaction that they've routinely come across in life that they've forgotten what it means to be an individual without any of this.

An individual without companionship, love, freedom, happiness, food is reduced to state where he does nothing but scrounge desperately for all of this. Desperately debasing oneself in the hope that someone will notice or appreciate him/her. Repugnant and lowly. You will realize this some day when you're not as content as you are right now. You will see how utterly abject an individual can be when deprived of the things that sum up his needs and wants.

>Love and beauty are to be given and appreciated
To whom? To someone who is willing to accept that from you. Again, the desperate scrounging to find someone who is willing to be a part of this transaction. Absolutely disgusting and abhorrent.

The entire human condition is a vile joke.

In a way people here on 4chan and those who mock the "social justice warriors" are just as bad as the social justice warriors themselves.

Isn't constant bitching about these social-justice-warriors or "genderkin" or liberals just as whiny as their cries of "oppression"?

The line is starting to blur between
>"That white male is oppressing me and is making society worse"
>"That red-haired feminist is oppressing me and making society worse"

If you claim that they've had any meaningful impact on society then I'll laugh at you. If you claim that you can no get away from their reach then I'll laugh at you harder. No on is asking you to got to tumblr to get offended. No one is asking you to watch those youtube videos.

You still do it because the feeling of getting victimized is gratifying. Everyone wants to be the victim and get empathy in a hugbox circlejerk.
Why does anyone here give 2 fucks about people who claim to be from whatever gender is beyond me. What does that have to do with you? Why do you resort to "look they're dumb", "look they're messing up society", "look they fucked up post modernism"?

The amount of whining against them parallels the whining they do and it frankly lends attention to them which is precisely what they want. It'd be better for everyone to just talk about literature instead of getting riled up in these retarded /pol discussions.

Let them make their videos. Let them do whatever the fuck they want. If you think they're stupid then why do they even merit your attention? Live and let live.

In a way people here on 4chan and those who mock the "social justice warriors" are just as bad as the social justice warriors themselves.

Isn't constant bitching about these social-justice-warriors or "genderkin" or leftists just as whiny as their cries of "oppression"?

The line is starting to blur between
>"That white male is oppressing me and is making society worse"
>"That red-haired feminist is oppressing me and making society worse"

If you claim that they've had any meaningful impact on society then I'll laugh at you. If you claim that you can no get away from their reach then I'll laugh at you harder. No on is asking you to got to tumblr to get offended. No one is asking you to watch those youtube videos.

You still do it because the feeling of getting victimized is gratifying. Everyone wants to be the victim and get empathy in a hugbox circlejerk.
Why does anyone here give 2 fucks about people who claim to be from whatever gender is beyond me. What does that have to do with you? Why do you resort to "look they're dumb", "look they're messing up society", "look they fucked up post modernism"?

The amount of whining against them parallels the whining they do and it frankly lends attention to them which is precisely what they want. It'd be better for everyone to just talk about literature instead of getting riled up in these retarded /pol discussions.

In a way people here on 4chan and those who mock the "social justice warriors" are much worse than the social justice warriors themselves.

Isn't constant bitching about these social-justice-warriors or "genderkin" or leftists just as whiny as their cries of "oppression"?

The line is starting to blur between
>"That white male is oppressing me and is making society worse"
>"That red-haired feminist is oppressing me and making society worse"

If you claim that they've had any meaningful impact on society then I'll laugh at you. If you claim that you can no get away from their reach then I'll laugh at you harder. No on is asking you to got to tumblr to get offended. No one is asking you to watch those youtube videos.

You still do it because the feeling of getting victimized is gratifying. Everyone wants to be the victim and get empathy in a hugbox circlejerk.
Why does anyone here give 2 fucks about people who claim to be from whatever gender is beyond me. What does that have to do with you? Why do you resort to "look they're dumb", "look they're messing up society", "look they fucked up post modernism"?

The amount of whining against them is parallels the whining they do and it frankly lends attention to them which is precisely what they want. It'd be better for everyone to just talk about literature instead of getting riled up in these retarded /pol discussions.

You know what, I think a far more interesting and less bait of a question would be:

What would be the implications IF HYPOTHETICALLY we knew for sure that objectivism is true. maybe things DO exist outside our perception. then what? what does that mean for us?

>>7928758

marcus aurelius never once speaks of anything like an "inner light" or whatever mysticism that you're trying to associate with stoicism.

he was pragmatic stoic with a strong sense of morality that drew from the "state": justice, virtue, honesty. these were some of the ideals he upheld. he probably even considered the gods irrelevant and was grounded in real life pragmatism.

don't know what the fuck you're on about.

>>7878571
>>7879322

wasn't pinochet regime considered quite brutal since it was responsible for the torture, murder and kidnapping of thousands of allende supporters? And instead of handing over power to a civilian government, pinochet practically became a dictator?

Also, looking up this stuff I found tons of sources verifying CIA's direct involvement in allende's overthrow and their continued efforts at destabilizing chile's economy and discrediting allende and his socialist efforts.

What was the motive though? why would the CIA give a shit if chile reached economic prosperity through socialist policies? Is it because that would provide existential proof of socialist/collectivist policies actually working out which would be a threat to the "commie" boogeyman that was shown to all muricans to inspire hate against soviet union?

Really, I'm just guessing here but why were communism and socialism demonized the the american population so much?

Any literature I can look up regarding this?

I just don't understand. how can a place like /lit/ which I assume to have more critical thinking capabilities than /pol/, actually and unironically look up to this dude?

Before everyone leaps to call me a libcuck or whatever it is that trumpfags say, I need to clarify that I am not even american and could not give less of a shit about this tug of war between left wing liberalism and right wing conservatism.

I just fail to fathom how people who visit this board can be swayed by his stupidity. Even as a dispassionate, neutral, uninvested outside observer, it is so apparent to me that this guy is such a crass moron.

How can the same people admire trump and dfw? I just don't understand.

Can anyone critique this: http://pastebin.com/ka9uuHv2 ?
I am new to writing and would really appreciate specific tips and advice on how I can not be so terrible.