/lit/ - Literature

>>10199595
I'd say Transparency of Evil or maybe the Spirit of Terrorism are Baudrillard at peak-nihilism. The Conspiracy of Art has is a pretty harsh take down of the art world too.

>>10199653
Hardly, he's been popular in American academia since the 90s. I'm not sure that the Matrix extended his popularity very far, if anything it just confused people about his theory of simulation (which does not resemble the Matrix at all).


Anyway, I've read a lot of JB. If anyone has specific questions I can try to answer them.

>>10074428
Simulation theory (whether the hard Matrix version, or JB's simulacrum), is radical uncertainty. I just really doubt you'll find anything other than pop-sci 'What If?' scenarios or deconstruction. Maybe someone out there is working on the Fermi Paradox of Simulation Theory, but even then we're only talking probabilities. That's hardly philosophy.

Baudrillard's notion of Simulation has less to do with proving an intervention, and more to do with disproving the notion of Reality. In the same way that ages past just assumed the existence of god, our culture assumes the existence of a real, and assumes that we have access too it. That's what Baudrillard is challenging. (see pic, a nice interview in which Baudrillard compares atheism to simulation as radical heresy.)

Give Simulation & Simulacra, the first essay is the important bit. It's 30 pages.

https://www.researchgate.net/file.PostFileLoader.html?id=5832f8a596b7e482e4791f53&assetKey=AS%3A430855903551489%401479735460927

>>9995255
Just give it a read. There are plenty of 'readers' out there to go along with it. Simulation is probably one of the most important recent philosophical theories, I highly recommend reading it.

Here's a bit from 'Exiles of Dialogue' that bears on Simulacra and Simulation

>>9899313
Depends on the book. America, The Conspiracy of Art, The Spirit of Terrorism, The Transparency of Evil- I'd say these texts are fairly straight forward and interesting.

some other texts, stuff like The Perfect Crime, Simulation & Simulacra, Fatal Strategies, The Agony of Power... this stuff is a bit more dense. I don't blame anyone for thinking S&S is pure gibberish on a first read. It's a counter-intuitive theory.

Who would really question reality? It's heretical! (pic related from Exiles of Dialogue).

>>9896896
Baudrillard, for sure. Check out the Transparency of Evil and the Perfect Crime.

>>9650119
gonna dump some baudrillard excerpts. This one on the heresy of denying reality is really nice.

>>9645423
don't worry about the labels anon, Baudrillard certainly didn't.

Baudrillard thread. Going to dump some of my favorite bits that I've saved as images.

This pic is from Exiles of Dialogue. Baudrillard confirms his edgelord status as a denier of reality.

The Heresy of Denying Reality, from Exiles of Dialogue

Today the real heresy is to deny reality

>>9302113
Baudrillard would agree with you

I cut this excerpt from Baudrillard and Enrique Valiente Noailles' "Exiles of Dialogue" for another thread, but I want to post it here as well.

Denying that God exists isn't particularly relevant today, when the dominant ideology of Scientific Materialism and Multicultural Humanism are essentially just Christianity with the supernatural elements subtracted.

Today's heresy is to deny reality.

OP here. I see this topic is met with a lot of derision, which I suppose makes sense.

I'm reminded of a section from "Exiles of Dialogue" a discussion/book by Baudrillard and Enrique Valiente Noailles, in which Baudrillard says that today's greatest heresy is to deny reality.

But more specifically, what is the allure of this kind of thinking. Why does Roko's Basilisk exert fascination on some minds and not others? I think what separates someone like Baudrillard from Elon Musk is their personal "stake". Both forms of simulation are hypothesized by a need to create a metaphysical framework. But Baudrillard denies reality as a means of philosophical liberation/nihilism/orgy (moving from philosophy to theory, from physics to pataphysics) while Elon Musk and the silicon valley crowd seem to be drawn to Simulation ideas like Roko's Basilisk out of paranoia and uncertainty about where their project is headed.