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>>15905776
>the west, while they still have a chance, ignores the east's plan to undermine livable conditions on earth
>anon points this out and notes that this flippancy and will eventually sound the death knell for (at minimum) the west
>you call this perfectly reasonable explanation schizophrenic because it's easier to deny and denigrade than honestly deal with
Example #629473 of the contemporary west refusing to acknowledge, much less confront, the realistic implications of Chinese/Indian industry. And you're probably not even an establishmentarian, much less someone with the extreme wealth to safely weather the coming storm. You're denying reality at your own cost, but hearing this will probably just make you bury your head deeper into the sand.

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>>13784235
>purely therapeutic

Disputing this part because it betrays a personal opinion that the leftist worldview is therapeutic, rather than pragmatic. I'm gonna devils advocate defend the leftists.

Leftists have made a probabilistic judgment that, more likely than not, things are going to be much worse than them then for their parents, and their kids are even more fucked, and something needs to be done to prevent this. However, this can't happen right now because
>the ladder has been pulled up due to:

>>Unsustainable economic rent extraction in the forms of:

>>>High rent
>>>High medical and medicine costs
>>>High tuition prices
>>>High car prices
>>>Massive data extraction
>>>Massive corporations that politically advocate for laws which make all of the above worse.

This is exacerbated by
>a lack of jobs caused by

>>the rebuilding of all other post WW2 economies;
>>the permanent export of manual labor/manufacturing jobs to other cheaper countries; and
>>the invention of the computer automating jobs away,

So because all three of those are (probabilistically) permanent, the jobs are never coming back (regardless of what king orange hair tells you), and the prices, assuming no major legal system changes happen, are never coming down; this is the new normal and if you're shit on the totem pole, you'll never rise again. This means

>These rents will continue to get worse over time

So we, as people, should change in kind to adapt and resist them. Since (probabilistically)
>you can't unatomize a society once everyone is

>>double income,
>>too poor to relax,
>>too busy to date,
>>too low on the totem pole to rise and change the laws driving all these conditions
>>and elites higher on the totem pole refuse to make concessions themselves to fix their obviously crumbling economies and social landscapes

This leaves the only solution of
>We must make the best of the situation we find ourselves in

Which, if true gives the following leftist positions:
>Advocate for any elite willing to support changing the laws to break rent extraction (Warren, Sanders; if things don't get better, someday probably commies)
>Find ways to hedonistically enjoy oneself under massive corporate surveillance, because unless something is done, it's never going away
>Be good to each other, and enforce community norms via vigilante mobs and cancellation, because authorities (also elites) don't care; we're on our own

Which, under such constraints, would not be therapeutic, they're ways to live slightly less sad if society is trapped in a permanent "no elites care anymore" money-making cul-de-sac

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