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Which one is the more based 20th century philosopher?

Trying to decide if I should read Being and Time first or Tractatus.

Can we just be honest to fucking god that ever since Heidegger and Wittgenstein utterly raped classical metaphysics and philosophy we have not been able to develop any serious or worthwhile philosophical position since. I mean, for fucks sake, just look at Foucault and Derrida. They were just Heideggarians (Foucault's episteme as temporal horizaon of Being), (Derrida's deconstruction as destruktion of a metaphysics of presence). They never, not even slightly, made any real progress past Heidegger. Richard Rorty did a better job than both of those fucking clowns. Not to mention all the shitty acolytes of Wittgenstein that think philosophy can be done in "ordinary language."

Ethics has no foundations, thus political philosophy is led astray. All the existentialist philosophy after Heidegger is junk. All the analytics philosophy since Witty is nazel-gazing garbage.

Liberalism (or Americanism as Heidegger called it) has dominated the world. What do we do? Have we reached the end of philosophy? Honestly, I don't care all that much about Wittgenstein. He is okay. Heidegger for me, truly fucked everything up. He throat stomped the history of western thought with Being and Time, and then left us in a fucking abyss of Being with Contribution to Philosophy.

What do we do? This virus is fucking proof that we have "enframed" Being through our constant use of technology and the use of the Earth as pure matter.

Are we in an Abyss? Can only a God save us now?

The great debate

are these two reconcilable, or one has to choose?

The great debate

Who had the grater impact on 20th c thought? Let's settle this.

How can we make metaphysics great again without ignoring these two?

How do STEMtards even begin to compare Wittgensteins autistic ramblings with Heideggers genius?

I don't even understand. Wittgensteins letters to Russell beg the questions Heidegger was solving in his magnum opus at the time he was still writing his little pamphlet.

It is strange though that both men built themselves a a cabin to work. How curious

Hijacking this thread, kinda

I want to get into Wittgenstein, what prior knowledge, besides the greeks, is required to understand his writings? I've skimmed through a page or two of Tractatus and it went over my head

What about Heidegger? Sein and Zeit seems more accessible but I feel like will miss out alout I won't prepare myself.

Is it even possible to read philosophical works for leasure (not that I'm not ready to out in effort) ? I'm very interested in philosophy and starting out right now, I've read some Kant, Mill, Hobbes and "the Greeks" in highschool

Excuse my bad english

I am about to do a study of Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus and Heidegger's Being and Time. I was wondering if /lit/ would have any insight as to which translations were best.

Who is the superior philosopher: Heidegger or Wittgenstein?

Heidegger or Wittgenstein: Who is superior in terms of the amount of pussy I will acquire after reading their works?