/lit/ - Literature

>>12631302
but all of these guys - Hegel, Baudrillard, Heidegger, Kojeve, Lacan, Deleuze, Land - operate in the shadow of Marx. it's true that there is one substantial exception to this, that being Nietzsche, and he may well be the Sorcerer Supreme of them all. Deleuze says there is absolutely no way of reconciling Hegel and Nietzsche, and he might be right about that (Lacan, i think, would disagree, but Deleuze has rejoinders for him also). and we come in 2019 to Land too, who after quite a lot of Deleuzian stuff still wants to go back to Marx (a Right-Marx, but a Marx nonetheless), and even Baudrillard i think stuck to those sensibilities also. as out there as the situationists get, there is always i think the Communist International there in the background.

it's heady stuff. the full-on break with Marx is difficult for some, maybe impossible. my own sense ofc is that these kinds of things lead to calamity and ruination one way or the other: Hitler resolving the Gordian Knot in his way led to race theory and National socialism, Stalin keeps it International, and just as bad. and overseas, there's Mao...and these are the kinds of horror-shows one has to deal with if one wants to really go down into the lower levels of the diabolical roller-coaster ride, where perhaps only Georges Bataille is at the bottom. interestingly it's the Chinese these days who actually seem to want to move on from Mao more than the West...too bad about the Social Credit, tho...

and you know what my response to this is: basically, it consists of bursting into tears and thinking unironically about the crucifixion. crying and drinking and shitposting on /lit/, find a flaw!

>>12631275
>Well, we did get two (2) good things from the last 300 years in the West. Russell proved that axiomic logic systems ain't that hot (which is pretty cool discovery desu) and we got decentralization.
yeah, we got lots of stuff. if only we could appreciate them more and not carry on as we do so often.

>The list of things we failed to learn is far too long, sadly.
yep

>But still, not the best 300 year run but let's hope there's a fun explosion at the end
personally my feeling is that it will be a kind of hilariously bloated non-explosion, a fatsplosion of Ballardian proportions.
>metaphysical fatsplosion baby yeahhhhhhh

we need a place to talk about philosophy, perhaps, just to keep from going insane. like a potlatch of sorts, or a passion play. just so that you can see the monsters, and let them speak...