/lit/ - Literature

>>21001545
But wait, there's more. They've been abusing children nonstop for AT LEAST 1000 YEARS. Here's one of their saints complaining about the boyfucking already in the 11th century:

>The Liber Gomorrhianus (Book of Gomorrah) is a book authored and published by the Benedictine monk St. Peter Damian during the Gregorian Reformation circa AD 1051.[1] It is a treatise regarding various vices of the clergy, and the consequent need for reform.

>Bishops and priests were involved in every kind of immorality, publicly living with concubines or illicit wives, or furtively engaging in homosexual practices, following an example set by the scandalous Pope Benedict IX. "For Damian, the issue of homosexuality within the clergy is deeply related to the dignity of the priesthood."[4] Damian believed that the profligate and licentious behavior of the clergy undermined ecclesiastical authority and was beginning to provoke outbursts of violence from an outraged laity, which threatened civil order.

>He was especially indignant about priests having sexual relationships with adolescent boys. He singles out superiors who, due to excessive and misplaced piety, have been lax in their duty to uphold church discipline. He opposes the ordination of those who engage in homosexual sex and wants those already ordained dismissed from Holy Orders. Those who misuse the sacraments to defile boys are treated with particular contempt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus

>>20362529
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>>20362548
>fucks up replying 3 times, doesnt reply in one post

>>20323905
>at least christians saw child abuse as something that was shameful and wrong and wasnt supposed to happen
age of consent in christian societies: 12
age of consent in liberal societies: 18 (and inter-generational relationships becoming more and more socially unacceptable)

>>20309070
We abolished paedophilia only with the advent of secular modernity. The age of consent for most of the Christian middle ages was 12. The Church burned boys for being sodomised because they considered them as culpable as adult men. Augustine was betrothed to an 11 year old girl. This proves we cannot let the Church dictate sexual morals.

>>19771774
How is it a strawman? It is a necessary implication of your belief system. Unless you have some other idea about what Hell is, and who goes there
>>19771795
People do not "choose" to go to Hell in the sense of possessing a full awareness of the facts about God and Heaven and Hell and deciding that Hell is a preferable place to be. Most people seem to merit Hell simply by failing to recognise the truth of Christianity which, admittedly, is not obvious.
>>19771776
Are the unrepentant ones damned however? What if they genuinely believe they are serving God? I find it difficult to understand how a Christian in possession of the truth differs morally from someone who is not in possession of the truth. It often seems to be the product of accidental circumstances. In most cases they have not carefully reasoned their way into their belief system, nor do they have privileged access to any information.
Also, should boy sodomites be burned at the stake?