/lit/ - Literature

>>10980949
>>10980954
holy shit. this is insightful as fuck.

>>10980969
the feel is real

>>10352495
I like this post. It accepts that consciousness is not an easy definition. I believe reality is represented in option 2. Option 1 is a deflection, yes. 3 is resignation. The vivid inner state you mention is the composition of the whole seen by us from orbit, not the daubs of paint on the phone. To assign "them" a themhood, or the qualities of observation we have, is a failure of language. Or maybe I misunderstand.

>I think we have all the tools
Not yet. To continue your metaphor, wiretapping does not exist yet. We can only watch from orbit and see general bursts of activity in the megalopolises. We can't identify callers, or know the contents of a discrete chemical message. Recording this data is what I'm waiting for. We're an electro-chemical stewpot that is continually forgetting and recalling the past and telling itself a story in the present. History is a treadmill, from individual lifetime to span of empire. Have you read Ricoeur? I'm interested in his ideas about memory.