/lit/ - Literature

This is actually a very timely thread. As soon as I finish reading my current Kierkegaard book I want to start studying ancient Greek. I want /philology/'s opinion as to how I should start. My primary interest is the New Testament, so I initially planned to study Koine, but a little bit of internet digging suggests that it's easier to go from Attic to Koine than vice-versa. I might get more bang for my buck if I just learn Attic, and then I get the Greeks for free on top of being able to read the NT fairly easily. Can anyone speak to whether this is a wiser course of action? Any recommendations as to starter texts (either Attic or Koine)?

>>13129056
Read Kant's Prolegomena to any Future Metaphysics, Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil, Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics, and Hegel's Reason in History. I'm not memeing, these are four very short works and you could easily read all four in twenty days without serious effort. If you know these four then you'll know more than ninety-nine out of a hundred philosophy undergrads.

>>11924521
This is true, but just because you're a human doesn't make you human.

Is there anything one should know getting ready to read the bard for the first time? Maybe a particular order or plays to avoid/focus on?

>>10664697
>>10664676
>Yep and he loves the first and most influential post-modernist philosopher ever in Nietzsche
Why do people who have clearly never read or at least understood Nietzsche feel the need to invoke his name? Nietzsche would have nothing but overwhelming disgust for post-modernists, he literally warns against them 100 years before they came to exist.
>the strong must be protected from the weak

OP hits a few points on post modernism, but certainly he misses some as well. There's a chronology to it, it's evolved since the 60s, and really who could ever fully define a hydra, or even want to, considering the type of people who it concerns.

>>9979485
>>9979296
dark humanism is best humanism

>>9855795
>Makishima was a utilitarian cuck
Name 1 single way this is true. You're just talking out of your ass now, he's a utilitarian because...he wants to destroy a system of rule that is the apex of utilitarianism since he values individuality above all else? Jesus fuck, you're so wrong it's staggering.

>>9855795
>You are told that world is shit and Japan isn't, how and why were never explained.
So what? You're complaining the story is bad because you want more of it? The why isn't remotely essential to the plot and can readily be explained with any number of guesses which right or wrong again is relevant.

>>9855795
>Why are there black spots everywhere else then? At school or in streets? I'll tell you, because plot needs to happen
See below.

>>9855795
>What?
No. That's not an answer. Your complaint is literally the antagonistic element in a story isn't perfect, that's the only reason the story exists. It's fucking stupid. Why the fuck are you talking about what 1984 is about? That has nothing to do with it, the why. The point was Wilson exists in his totalitarian society, meaning it isn't so total, it has flaws, like the society in PP. What a fucking cop out, right? The party isn't perfect with every single human being totally under its rule, what a bullshit pretext for a plot. Etc etc.

You're retarded. Why does a system to control people even need to come about? Why do we have crime now? Human nature. No system is perfect, to demand some explanation be given for that is so desperate and lazy for criticism. It's a thing manifest. Why is it that the party produces outliers? For the very same reason the party exists at all, to suppress outliers, it's a thing manifest. The same thing with Sibyl, it's immediately portrayed as a flawed system from episode 1 minute 1, it literally takes place in a run down ghetto for the homeless where Sibyl's rule is weakest. All of PP is a focused narrative, a sort of argumentum ad absurdum, it takes place in an extreme setting in order to hone in on the ethical questions it wants to ask. That doesn't mean it portrays any one side as explicitly correct and the other evil, not at all, it's massively ambiguous and lets the viewer choose while taking them out of their comfort zone.

>>9855795
>But you can't make an argument against it because the best defense of the system is "lol but everything else failed and only this works." That's a propaganda in form of storytelling.
Except Sibyl is portrayed as flawed and dehumanizing left and right. That's propaganda? No-one idea is expressed to be inherently or clearly superior to any other. That's what makes Makishima such a great villain, lots of people are rooting for him, a man who murders with a smile, because unbelievably enough he's a sort of hero in a world so twisted, it genuinely brings into question ideas of right and wrong and justice. Yeah, propaganda, all the best propaganda in the world was opaque as fuck leaving the individual to decide, right?

>>8893823
Shogo is my husbando.

>>7361400
>The path is predetermined, but we don't have the means to know the path itself, meaning that from your own perspective both deterministic and non deterministic are exactly the same.
>Don't sweat it.

It is not the path but that there is a path that disturbs me. If the path includes my sweating it, how can I not?

>>7361404
>preferring a literal gary sue
>not admiring Makishima's interesting and genuine philosophy and his happily going to his death pursuant of such

>>5840074
>lol morality and grammar aren't real

Double faggot.