/lit/ - Literature

>>7933199
I'll save you sometime, the individual can only truly develop when his community does. We develop with and through others, and vice versa.

Everything else is misguided. A person is fundamentally a being created by and dependent on other persons, for meaning, actualization, etc.

Ubuntu for example, a philosophy that gets at the core of what is important for humans.

>>7933412
If there's a point to this post, then yes.

>>7926589
Agreed, minus the antidepressants part, but I would consider those something to do once everything else has failed.


>>7926590
You should compile a chart with pictures.

Have you read all these books or are you just looking at online lists?

>>7926517
This is why we have experts, so we dont end up with Fedoras who think they can help people suffering with serious psychological problems, because they read The Brothers Karamozov.

But the empathy thing is right, that can help become a better person/psychologist. But on its own hardly enough.

>>7926463
If you want to be versed in practice and application, start reading the actual studies, learn how they are conducted, familiarize yourself with the research methods, ethics, analysis, etc aspect so you can better critique.

Honestly though, for this you should take a course to actually learn from an expert. So when you read studies you actually understand them and can maybe find their flaws.

>>7926322
Depends on your interests. If you want the cutting edge stuff search by topic and see what the latest psychologists are publishing.

If you want the big stuff from the past, Freud, Fromm, Rogers, Jung, Reich, James, and many others are worth reading for insight, perspective, as well as seeing what they got wrong and how we know better, or how today's idea came from theirs.

I'm currently reading On Becoming a Person by Rogers and really love it. I find his humanistic approach really wise.

>>7922730
No one except maybe some people who figure out how to survive in the Arctic are going to benefit from the climate clusterfuck and the furst , second, and third climate war.

No time for discussing the actual dissolution of our society? Only time to rehash the same DFW, Pynchon, bullshit threads?

>>7919588

Of Human Bondage
The Magus
The Sun Also Rises

>>7921822

Sure, there are many, I recently read The Sane Society by Erich Fromm. Exactly wat you're looking for.

Good morning /lit/izens.

http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/the_wages_of_sin_20160410

Some sobering visions from Hedges, who saw the painting on the wall well before our war in the Middle East of what would end up happening.

He knows what's coming, but if we can become enaged, we can create a different reality, one with Universal basic income and sustainable systems instead of a nightmare. It depends on us.

>>7918552
:) community building!

>>7918432
Honestly /r9k/ is often toxic for people with issues, not always, but often. There is usually very negative and simple attitudes towards psychology and therapy, and they often egg people on towards suicide. I don't know about /adv/, but at least here at /lit/ you have some knowledgeable people. /fit/ also isn't terrible, but still full of some trolls.

>>7918412
Couldbee, but usually suicide ideation results from a psychological issue (depression, anxiety, etc).

>>7916901
Ideology is the way in which we perceive and make meaning in the world. Some are better and truer than others.

A spook is a silly idea from a shitty philosopher that teens on /lit/ think is deep because they are still in the moral relativism, don't give a shit, haven't seen the profound import of social relations stage of their lives.

>>7915934
I think you could benefit substantially from a good therapist.

You might have paranoid personality disorder or not, but you definitely seem to be distressed, either way a therapist can give you a more objective analysis.

>>7916229
If your interpretation of Stoicism is that compassion and altruism are central, good for you man, keep it up.

Go help other people.

>>7916143
:)

>>7916152
Sure thing kiddo. I've read all the major Stoic works actually, and as far as mentioning benevolence, Aurelius does only a couple time.

What you are saying isn't really central to Stoicism. What is is ether to align your life with the will or nature/god. Not a whole lot about helping others.

>>7914182

The Greeks were (some) interested in excellence and it's pursuit. Develop the self and your abilities, your self regarding duty is to become the best at whatever it is you aim to do.

Epicurus thought you should just chill with friends and reduce anxiety and pain.

The Cynics went further than your somewhat Stoic outlook.

Also Stoicism is flawrd, as Aristotle showed by the fact that luck is a component of the good life. Sometimes you go outside, get AIDS, cancer, hit by a bus or raped, hard to live well. Or kaybe you live in Syria or Yemen and your home was destroyed and family killed, you can try to be Stoic, but you'll hardly be living a good life.

Personally I think a mature philosophy must entail compassion and aid for others.

>>7915358
Agreed.

>>7915359

Surpiraed automation isn't at te forefront of the discussion. Historically we see major advances in tech, then a growing need for welfare, so we increase the welfare infrastructure and that causes even more innovation and growth, and now we're on the cusp of a major transformation. Hardly any politicians even mention automation.

I was actually really happy when Obama mentioned it briefly in his state of the union speech. But it, like climate change, should have 24/7 news coverage, because it will fundamentally upend the social order.

Fromm thought that we couldn't just have an economic revolution, it would have to be a revolution in all major spheres. Political, cultural, etc to enable each other to actually succeed given the new changes, an our needs.

>>7911975
Elaborate on the flaws, I'm curious. I have not read Husserl.

Rogers does not however disregard society, but if you intend to say many of our ills are caused by a sick society, then we agree.

>>7911937
Go with Christ, he will soothe the buttmadness you now feel.

>>7911825
Funny, I just read this one. I skipped some portions as I found them a bit boring or overly anti intellectual, but overall a great read with tea. Chills you out. Has a good positive take on life.

>>7911822
Have you read the book, it's quite brilliant.

Maybe you can put forth an argument of what is bad about it?