/lit/ - Literature

>>20852440
>also socrates somewhere else in the dialogues states if you reincarnate as a woman it's a step down
there's the actual Socrates and there's "socrates" i.e. Plato. keep that in mind

>>20852320
I refuted your shitposted passage like 3 times already, my memory always serves me. get lost

>>20852400
this post is correct, but the Truth is, both Christianity AND Judaism are just spooks

>>20852392
well i tried putting it into a historical perspective, Wittgenstein doesn't fit into that crowd and time at all now does he. Wittgenstein doesn't fit any crowd nor any time and that's Wittgenstein's point

>>20852375
>but you're right about the vast majority of Russian art.
Admittedly, I'm not saying it's because of some inherent Russian subhumanity. Im trying to be a philosopher, not a dumb reactionist.
The explanation that satisfies me is that it's a byproduct of their culture's socio-political totalism being a result of Asiatic chaos possibly caused by wide plains and low population density, and obviously a big invasion. Im getting a bit far out into the Spenglerian schizo-logos territory maybe but that's how I'd connect all forms and histories of "Asiatic despotism"

tldr i'm not inherently anti-Russian, or anti-Chinese for that matter, or anti-Arab. I'm anti-totalist, totalism is always suspicious, and never good. That doesn't mean laws shouldn't exist, but they should strive to be as minimal yet as close to the essence of human coexistence, as possible

tldr philosophically Dostoevsky was a really failed (so typically Russian), emotional reaction to encroaching nihilism following the death of God.

the only people who properly reacted to it in their time were Germans: Kant, Hegel, Schopenhauer, Marx, Stirner and Nietzsche (who was a sort of burp after Schopenhauer and Stirner)

>>20852332
yeah my apologies for not extolling a flawed pre-WW1 depiction of "heroism" which in Dosto's case is just a reversion to Jesus. Dostoevsky is a total midwit it's basically
>what if the bible but real life
it's not much deeper than that, and I don't find the bible to be all that deep, although it is useful as a Jungian sort of task
my apologies if you find the bible to be deep, but you've been fooled. papa Stirner would say spooked

Dostoevsky's midwittery and spookery is most crucially exposed when he talks all matters historical, national, political. his shallowness is exposed. do you think the war in Ukraine is an example more of some typical russian genius, or of typical russian stupidity, rather?
what is typical for russia? what is russia's logos?
it's nothingness. chaos. such is the logos of a nothing that was spawned by the Mongol Empire, which was in itself one big nothing. so this is my criticism of Dostoevsky: when you look inside, there's nothing truly there. you think he criticized nihilists? he criticized the Nihilists. because they were anti-government. and he thought nihilism is simply a Western anti-russian conspiracy. you think Dostoevsky was a Christian? he was a nihilist and a fatalist-turned-neophyte-turned-failure-turned-success-because-he-comforted-the-tsar:

that is Russia's logos

>>20852322
Baudrillard is useful because he provides a crucial venue to implant Plato into modern life

I did that myself, but I can't say that I don't respect Baudrillard. He's smarter than Debord and the true intellectual voice behind the situationist movement, which I consider myself to be the last representative of

>>20852309
it's supposed to mean that i post here really often, under a trip, and post many threads, many of which are on the catalog right now, and you should just lurk more and use warosu if you don't lurk enough

>>20852239
he didn't, which is the joke. unless OP isn't joking and is actually a midwit. but it seems too intentional to be a midwit accident

>>20852272
I consider Dostoevsky a master of his craft but a failure of an artist. All Russian "culture" is like that. The soul meme is a meme, it's the epitome of soulless, of fake authenticity, of hyperreality
>>20852263
Lurk more

>>20852275
Socrates: Are men featherless bipeds?

>>20852264
psychoanalysis does exist though, because the psyche exists and therefore can be analyzed

>>20852260
>the graph of desire has nothing to do with d&g
well d&g featured graphs, that's what i remember from skimming
>You didn't read Heidegger
well I skimmed him, read secondary texts and watched a couple lectures. I'm ready to sink my teeth in him but there are always just more valuable things to do, you know?

He answers the request.

What's his response?

>>20852227
the concept of a female dog is as important as the concept of a female in general. what is a woman?

>>20852238
more than dostoevsky, that i can admit, but barely more indeed

>>20852199
At the end of the day, Dostoevsky was a milquetoast propagandist for the Power. the Soviets liked that. the fact that he was Russian helped: Stalin raped Marxism and turned it nationalist

>>20852211
literally what?
literally who?

exactly

>>20852134
any philosopher is smarter than Dostoevsky. Dostoevsky was Russia's excuse for not producing a single philosopher of note in its entire history

i wonder why

>>20852125
OP here. that was my point. congrats on figuring it out.

>>20850646
>also Plato retroactively refuted all of this shit anyway.
this is the addition which shows that OP is actually more cultured than most of this board. unironically.

>>20852119
>am i getting baited ? this isn't even a word
it's an original philosophy. another term is pneumatism.
>if you're referring to christian
i'm not referring to anything christian
>i'm a pantheist
so am I :)
>the summary you wrote is pretty good although i already knew most of it
it's not about knowing. it's about arranging
>>20852113
Plato. now.

>>20852049
what's it about?
>>20852084
what makes you think i'm not reading? i'm constantly reading. i do, however, prove /lit/ for recommendations, things i wouldn't have thought about, connections i wouldn't previously make, and thus become a better person. who do you become?
as an example, recently i learned of Charles Peirce thanks to /lit/ and I'm gonna sink my teeth into him for real after the semester

why not be more honest? you cant do philosophy if you're dishonest