/lit/ - Literature

>>9669816
Watch spongebob retard

>>9669807
lol but the jews have been continually persecuted since the beginning of civilization. I have a hard time blaming them for anything

>>9669810
"Just gotta deal with it" Easy to say when you're fucking white. I feel like I'm arguing with a 14 year old

Of course the problem began a long time ago. How does that make any of this better?

>>9669796

Not even debatable

>>9669784
Do you have a source? Or are you just vomiting racist rhetoric?

And are jews not white?

>>9669782

By the way, if it means anything to you, Noam Chomsky recommends the book as one that any and every American who takes any sort of interest in their cultural history needs to read. I sent him an email about it and he answered with a suggestion of a criticism to read.

"Seems to me generally convincing. There are some criticisms that seem worth considering, e.g., James Forman’s work on black community support for stern measure of policing and incarceration (not surprising, since they are often the victims of criminal activity)." - Noam

Since you have not read it, here is a very brief summary:

She explains that the current US criminal justice system, fueled by the War on Drugs, serves to oppress minorities - black men, especially - in a way similar to the old Jim Crow system. It is simply the latest evolution, she argues, of a system of racism and discrimination in the US which is constantly evolving against threats of social reform. The common belief in the US, as fortified by propaganda (see: high school), is to believe that racism and discrimination were resolved with the Civil Rights Movement. It is clear, however, that that is not the case, given, for example, the widespread support for the current administration, which is obviously racist. Alexander argues that because the criminal justice system is legally and constitutionally “colorblind,” it is difficult to notice, and almost impossible to prove, that it is essentially racist. However, if one looks closely, as she did, one discovers weak points that are being exploited to an astonishing degree to funnel minorities into the penal system and keep them locked, even after their release, in a system which limits their potential for employment, housing, and social services. It is a sneaky and dangerous continuation of the United States's tradition of racial oppression, and it is largely unnoticed.

Potential solutions are prison reform and addressing the deeper issues that underlie criminal activity (e.g. education, child rearing, home life, etc)

>>9669770
It's on pirate bay so you don't even have to pay for it

>>9669760
"as an institution"

"I never did anything to black people"

There is a massive difference between the individual and the institution

I'm not saying you personally did anything

Read the book and you'll know what I mean. It's really a good book and worth reading, whether or not you agree with it (although you haven't read it yet so how could you know whether you agree with it)

>>9669736
lol you're trolling me. I'm out

>>9669719
What "crucial bullshit" is ignored?

You seem to be arguing that white people have done their part to help the minorities and so they need not do more. You fail to understand that "white people" as an institution is the reason that minorities (especially black males) are in such a terrible position in society. If you actually believe that "white people have been doing [their] job to repair the institutional discrimination" you are completely misinformed and ignorant

>>9669713
You clearly have not read the book and have no more than a child's level of understanding of sociology

>>9669698
>>>9669698
I'm also interested in why you call the writing "dishonest." It is well research and supported by pages of citations.

>>9669685
If you're referring to The New Jim Crow, Michelle Alexander is a black woman. She is not writing from a position of privelege.

And in regards to "disproportionate education in their populations," I would argue that that is a direct result of institutional discrimination. Saying that we should not advocate for the marginalized because they lack education is absurd.

>>9669617
what do you mean by the "numbers problem" ?

>>9669578
Are you serious?

Is anyone else interested in books relating to social justice / humanitarianism?