/lit/ - Literature

>>5840306
> no /biz/

I detect a man who is not self-made.

Get her a copy of Lynch's Elephant Man

>>5840268

I agree.
Slightly above Conrad on that "honorable mention" list.
Maaaaaybe top-20 tier.

Same suggestion whenever people ask about poetry.

Pick up some contemporary writers, maybe a short story anthology, and read around until you find something that clicks. Then read that author's influences or recommendations.

What do you like, you know, in life? We might be able to give you better recommendations.

also: get fucked and READ THE STICKY

>>5840249
Maaaaaan... maybe.

I love him to death, but he's more of a honorable mention

>>5840227

> mistaking the tree for the forest
> even talking about a forest when the subject is the lake

Do you have anything to say about the book in question?

Opie, check out this cosmic horror short story collection (the only "genre" which you could be referring to, aside from horror writing in general):
http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Press-Cosmic-Horror-Anthology-ebook/dp/B00IDBKERC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418170693&sr=8-1&keywords=cosmic+horror+short+stories

>>5840164

A commercial for cigarettes, lone star beer, and the New Orleans pedophile slave trade.

Man, I love /pol/'s migration.

>>5840130
>>5840170
>According to Diogenes, the philosopher was named after his grandfather Aristocles, but his wrestling coach, Ariston of Argos, dubbed him "Platon", meaning "broad" on account of his robust figure.[26]

Some Spanish-speaking countries still recognize him as Platón.

>>5840132
>>5840150
Suttree is money, Cities of the Plains moreso, and Outer Dark is breathtaking. Gets too much hate on this board.

That said, can he be compared with the greatest in history?

not yet

>>5840086
> The American reading public couldn't handle Poe's magnificent prose

Twenty years later Henry James was a bestselling author. Moreover, Melville didn't make any money from his masterpiece, nor (according to his letter) did he think he was going to.

Your taste is questionable, argument misguided, and ahistorical statements demonstrate that it might be best if you stopped posting and read more

>>5840070

No, there's not.

He makes an active point to beautify the technical -- calling it "textbook" says more about your attention span than his prose.

>>5839655

Aristotle taught in a gymnasium, and was a talented enough wrestler to earn the nickname "Platon," meaning "broad-shouldered." In parts of Europe he's recognized only by that name.

The Greeks believed in fitness and learning the limits of the body. Moreover, a serious discussion about war and sport is a key element of arguably the greatest Greek work, The Iliad.

As for "why be in good health," the question is obscured by the value judgments inherit. Mistaking notions of value with truth is a sophomoric philosophical mistake, though a forgivable one.

That said, whenever this argument pops up I'm often forced to side with the meatheads, who believe their fitness to be "right." This is unfortunate, but limpwrists who believe sport to be fundamentally anti-intellectual deserve more scorn.

>>5840029
Definitely had lots of whale sperm, but never any puke.

Also, the sperm sections are famously gorgeous.

>>5839916
I'm right there with you. It's a matter of someone doing the work to put it together.

>>5839310
This is up there. Joyce is also a possibility, but complexity doesn't necessarily equate beauty. Milton is the other obvious suggestion.

There are some dark horses scattered throughout history, though. Pick between Abelard, Heloise, and the love letters poet. Hesiod should get a nod. Someone could get away with saying Nabokov and I wouldn't slap them.

>>5835505
My man

>>5839755
Obviously some troll suggestions, but a few could be good.

>>5839737
It could use more suggestions as raised here:
>>5839742

Like I said, some dude who wanted to read some serious leftists literature started putting it together, but then every thread would descend into halfhearted, nearly off-topic debate not unlike this thread or, in the best-case scenario, people who actually knew their leftist theory would start squabbling about how to label certain writers.

Then Butterfly would come in and say some nonsense shit about Stirner.

Again, if someone wants to take up the task there's a great deal to work with.

Before the edgelords come in and say that this thread isn't literature related it's not I'm gonna come out and say that Crooked Little Vein was fucking hilarious. Dat opening.

Reminded me a little of Denis Johnson's foray into pulp lit, Nobody Move. Great afternoon reads both.

>>5839710
Here's the other one I could find.

This one does a marginally better job of pigeonholing the post-marxists.

>>5839641
Found it.

I have some suggestions for both modern/contemporary fiction and nonfiction, if anyone wants to take up the task of expanding these.
also my god the color scheme no wonder nobody wanted it

Michael Davis' The Soul of the Greeks has a great essay on it. The Soul ans Self and Self-Aware.

Aristotle is tough. There is a reason why Nietzsche called him the greatest philosopher. In addition to my suggestion, don't feel badly about seeking out guidance whenever anything doesn;t make sense.

>>5839116

Someone made one a while back. They were soliciting suggestions for a good while and I few of mine got tacked on. It was an extensive, but by no means exhaustive, list, but they gave up due to perceived lack of interest.

Might be in the sticky someplace? Otherwise, try the archive.

>>5837122
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Fuck