/lit/ - Literature

>>7280098
This is a good one

poetry is immoral
plato

>there is an old quarrel between philosophy and poetry

What did he mean by this?

Why is Plato so flawless?

>>7019503
there may be no God, but there is the Good.

OP, you're going to think I'm being rude or sarcastic, but, take this discussion to Reddit.

This is a literature board. Reddit has subs like /r/books that are largely for the discussion of YA/genre fiction like what you're writing.

>muh forms

>>6940661
2/2
>mom yells at me for quitting debate
>grounded for a month
>spent the entire time playing video games and watching Dragon Ball Z
>grades start slipping
>people started calling me 'Vanilla Shake' because of how I was shaking in my chair that fateful afternoon
>so afraid of the girl from debate that I mapped out her classes and made a route to avoid her
>don't have any friends because all my old friends had joined debate too
>almost fail the year, but patents force me to study
>last day of school
>the seniors are graduating
>secretly glad because she was a senior and I wouldn't have to see her again
>heard that she got accepted into Harvard, which was across the country
>would never have to think about her again
>last period of the day, only minutes from summer vacation
>I'm_glad_it's_over.jpg
>remember I left something in my locker
>open it and see a small, brown package that I hadn't seen before
>open it up
>it's a copy of The Republic
>open the book
>a note falls out
>on it, it's her signature
>it says, "Psssh...nothin personal, kid"
>mfw

I'm reading Plato's dialogues.

its really really really gay

>tfw Greek theater was so bad that it led to the death of our one true savior

>>6855375
>Implying they aren't objective reality

>>6849311
>>6849299

>Not SWTG

Looks like I'll have to be danker to reinvigorate this thread.

Christianity is essentially the Hebrew religion hijacked by Platonism. Prove me wrong.

>>6778320
>Avoid Arrian and Gibbon
Why?

>Why Gibbon?
I was told that despite his Christian basgmhing, it's a God-tier read for Classical history nerds.

>>6769972
I have no idea what you mean.

Just post babbycore please.

>>6762453
anything by plato

>>6758126
Based as fuck Plato

>>6752548
I have the complete dialogues of Plato (The one that Edith Hamilton edited. I hear it's a bad translation but I live in a country where I can't just buy these things easily). I've read the Oxford Short Introduction to the Presocratics and am reading the one on Plato. I've also read the various fragments from my copy of Greek Philosophy: From Thales to Aristotle, but didn't read the Plato and Aristotle because I'm not starting with the Greeks just for the metaphysics and I don't want to read them abridged. I listen to the History of Philosophy podcast.

In what order should I read the Dialogues? Should I just read in the order given? .

>>6747918
>define "define"

fucking /lit/

>>6747899
Morality is obviously a human abstraction, so really, it's entirely subjective.

And in my personal subjective opinion, I think societies should be varied and experiment with different ideas and "moral" constructs.

i.e., I think North Korea should be left alone indefinitely. Nothing would make me happier than if the borders were closed as an anthropological experiment. And I would prefer there to be more experiments conducted that are similar. I think doing so would help discover various advancements in societal structure for the human race in the long run. Plus it would just be cool to read about.

/lit/,
I'm going to uni this august as a prospective CS/Phil double major, and due to schedule issues, I can take 2 out of 3 of these courses during my fall semester (and push back one to spring):

>Linear Algebra
>Ancient Philosophy (ie, the greeks)
>Intro to Formal Logic (ie, propositional babby logic + basics of FOL, taught by Phil dept, not math or CS)

Which 2 do I pick? Apologies if this is off topic, but it's tangentially philosophy related :^)

>>6733341
yes, but it's unlikely