/lit/ - Literature

>>23395001
Recently? Catholics. No one else is even playing and they had Gene Wolfe.

Historically? Anglicans and Reformed/Calvinist.

Dickens beats every novelist and Milton beats every poet not named Homer.

In addition, you have Bunyan, Melville, the Brontes, Coleridge, Machen, Carol, Lewis, Dunsany,ect...
Catholics claim Chesterton, but all his great novels were written when he was Anglican.

>>23393318
It's certainly the case for fantasy/genre. Just take a look at Neil Gayman
>The Thirteen Clocks by James Thurber
>Voice of the Fire by Alan Moore
>Viriconium by M. John Harrison
>The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling
>The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
>The Once and Future King by TH White
>Dune by Frank Herbert
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH MAKE IT STOP

https://www.neilgaimanbibliography.com/introductions.html

>>23388684
>It's too much of a coincidence to not be done intentionally by Wolfe.
you're coming at this like your explanation isn't the one on the page telling you to believe it. what you are saying is literally what severian is telling you to believe. with gene wolfe, it's never that simple and that's where i'm coming at it from. this is a very important moment in severian's journey as it causes a schism with what he was raised on.
>Morwenna would have had some sort of quick acting poison.
eusebia says she knew morwenna and that she was careful. she would have kept poison behind for herself and would have died before getting arrested. nothing about it being quick acting.

>>23385877
The Wizard Knight by Gene Wolfe

>>23378755
>someone's self insert fantasy
Gene Wolfe was a jaded torturer who may have killed his crush out of spite? In all honesty, when you are writing first person stories, you really need to make it feel like the narrator is a real person. If anything, it's good that you think it's a self-insert since ,for the purpose of the story, it is. Severian is after all writing it. Honestly surprised people cannot get this simple shite through their skulls

Holy fuck, am I actually in /lit/? You guys shit talking Gene Wolfe but I turn around and see people praising Sanderson. You people take a beautiful Christian story like BotNS and can't see past gente shit muh camp muh Gary stu, like you're afraid of actually liking something. You don't need to be an insufferable cunt to be sophisticated, you know.
I have so many questions about this story. There are so many fun mysteries spread along these books, but I doubt people are really interested in discussing it here instead of complaining.

>>23378755
>This is just someone's self insert fantasy novel
Wrong. You may find this hard to believe because you're incapable of writing 'real' characters that aren't merely reflections of yourself, but Gene Wolfe was a very good writer and is capable of doing so.
>where the main character has autistic mannerisms
Wrong. Severian is not especially bright, has a near perfect memory, has an utterly alien value system to what the vast majority of people today have and is writing at least in part in order to convince the reader he is a good/moral person; all of that combined =/= merely "autistic".
>all the women fall for him regardless
Wrong. He clearly rapes some and there are a plethora of other reasons why he fucks, see this anon for examples>>23379526.
>Of course people say there are hidden meanings and it's deep and profound but I don't have that impression at all.
And this is Wolfe's fault how exactly? There is an incredible amount of deeper meaning on virtually every page, much of which is overt and obvious to people with an IQ above room temperature. If you really are struggling though there are innumerable deep dives into this all online, both in written and video format. Take your pic. Also entire books have been written about the deeper meaning and symbolism in BotNS, you can pick them up for cheap if you want as well.

Twat.

>>23378755
It's good, but Gene Wolfe has written better and nore sophisticated works. People just gravitate to this one because it appeals to the basic 'genre' crowd the most.

>>23380305
Bad news. Gene Wolfe is actually a genius and it's great.

Gene Wolfe kinda, very baroque and weird

>>23364081
the full Gene Wolfe folder.
novels/short story anthologies/solar cycle/chapter guides/other related books.
https://mega.nz/folder/QYgByKRD#cXp7M8kkZOB1sKkTs-TbIQ

>>23345214
Look into gene wolfe's writing
There's tons of world building, but it all happens through the characters and only when necessary to explain what's happeing to them currently. For example, in the book we learn of some type of bat monster things that are darker than black and kill stuff and whatever, but we're not told about these things until they actually are a threat and attack the main character. That's not to say you shouldn't foreshadow things, but my point is that there if there is no reason to explain something to the characters or readers beyond "i just want them to know this part" then it's probably better off being left unsaid

>>23356855
Only Gene Wolfe I read. Was absolute garbage. Main character falls from coincidence into coincidence, wins fights for no reason, can't stop banging hot chicks.

most underrated Gene Wolfe book

>>23352056
You all write the same, anyway. I swear, a fucking hivemind with you dumbasses LARPing as oldfags in this thread. Your favorite authors? Karl Edward Wagner, Robert E. Howard, Lord Dunsany, George MacDonald, C.A.S., Gene Wolfe, and Jack Vance. Who else? Edgar Rice Burroughs?

>>23352003
It only doesn't matter here because faggots like you drive the average post quality so low already. Asking if anyone else agrees that Sanderson is a bad writer as if its some sort of revelation is fucking painfully oblivious. That's the pretty much the only opinion of him you'll find here. You might as well post "Has anyone here ever read Gene Wolfe? Is it just me or is he pretty good??"

>>23352025
>dig through archives or lurk for a fucking month
If you went back ONE single thread you'd find discussion of Sanderson, and even specifically that he is a bad writer. Fuck off.

>>23343022
Not that Anon, but, fiction-only, mine are:

1. Moby-Dick by Herman Melville
2. The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
3. The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien
4. The Iliad by Homer
5. The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
6. Emma by Jane Austen
7. The Aleph and Other Stories by Jorge Luis Borges
8. Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh
9. Ulysses by James Joyce
10. The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne

I'm just here to brag that I own one of the 1000 books of pic related. They won't be making these anymore. It's nicely made, and the only legal way to get some of Gene Wolfe's best short stories.

It's interesting that Chesterton seems to be something of a writer's writer. A lot of the great writers of the 20th Century held him in high esteem, especially his short stories, his novels, and his poetry. All the Inklings loved him, especially Lewis and Tolkien. Gene Wolfe loved him, too. Even Borges loved him.

Have you found Chesterton to be a great writer, /lit/?

It’s been over a year since I read a book /sffg/ can you guys help me get back into it? How’s Soldier of the Mist stake up to Book of the New Sun and the Wizard Knight? I loved both and I figure another good Gene Wolfe fantasy style novel would jumpstart me reading again.

Or should I just go full normie and read Maas?

Funny isn't it how the most popular Gene Wolfe books are basically harem anime

So this thread is what libraries are supposed to have? My library is so ass they probably have never seen a Gene Wolfe novel. They didn't even have an Ishiguro book. Even GRRM books have been stolen and any old novel has yellow pages with writings marked '1983' or some shit because they never replace the books.

Got these today at Library sale today. Insane seeing Past Master in the wild. Also the Gene Wolfe is signed.
What should I read first?

Got these today, ¢50 for paperbacks. Freaked out seeing Past Master (worth $60), super rare nowadays, excited to read it. Also didn’t realize the Gene Wolfe is signed (worth $90-$100)!