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23303339 No.23303339 [Reply] [Original]

Is there a novel equivalent as good as this rather than the focus being on plays?


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23303316 No.23303316 [Reply] [Original]

>finish reading book you enjoyed
>check out reviews on goodreads
>top review is a literal basedfacing man
>it's a one star review of just paragraphs of infantile language completely missing the point
>thousands of likes
>responses are like "wow man, thanks! you saved me the time reading this trash", "another epic review" and so on
Day. Ruined.

>> No.23303336

Stop reading shit and going to goodreads, cebolla boy.

>> No.23303359

>>23303316
Post examples

>> No.23303370

>>23303316
>finish reading book you enjoyed
What was it?

>> No.23303402

>>23303359
>>23303370
Venus in furs


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23303315 No.23303315 [Reply] [Original]

This guy writes some of the worst dialogue ever and THE worst dialogue in a fantasy book that I've ever read. Why does /lit/ like him?

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>> No.23303562

>>23303537
I'll saw that bitch's head off in the Atacama desert if she gets in my way

>> No.23303567

>>23303562
He's also probably never sucked a dick before.

>> No.23303586

>>23303546
asoiaf series will not be finished after martin death because the fucking nigger does not outline

>> No.23303695

>>23303546
I legitimately have no clue why any of them think Sanderson of all people could finish ASOIAF, he doesn't have any of Martin's dialogue, character work, or story telling skills and Martin does the exact opposite of what he does in terms of worldbuilding.
I think it has to due with how Sanderson seethed about how Martin was chosen to write for Elden Ring despite not knowing anything about Fromsoft properties.
>>23303586
Only retards think this. We know he's already gotten some rough character arcs finished for a long time now, even if he didn't put specifics down its not hard to make some logical conclusions as to what has to happen for certain endpoints to be achieved with satisfactory conclusions.

>> No.23303698

>>23303508
He looks like a very evil version of Gaben


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23303311 No.23303311 [Reply] [Original]

Can you name a better book?

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>> No.23303378

>>23303311
the halo 2 game manual

>> No.23303412

>>23303333
What video?

>> No.23303416

>>23303412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wAo54DHDY0

>> No.23303687

>>23303333
Based.

>> No.23303703

>>23303311
This book is reddit. Pure reddit.

I just finished reading this and I spent the entire book repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath.

I fucking hated it. I was writhing around on the floor in front of my sofa for the last 30 minutes it was so painful.

There’s just too many "Le epic" dialogues for me. After a while when I would read a sentence I started to picture the lines appearing in front of me as a reddit post with the reddit upvote downvote arrows next to them, and let me tell you, there were lot of upvotes.


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23303285 No.23303285 [Reply] [Original]

If masturbation is a mortal sin, why does the Bible never mention it?

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>> No.23303381

>>23303356
>>23303360
Genesis 38 first 10 verses give the background

>> No.23303400

>>23303285
We don't need fertility cults anymore earth's full.

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23303406

>>23303400
>We don't need fertility cults anymore earth's full.

>> No.23303415

>>23303285
>Be 16
>Can have sex with young wife
>Chooses to touch dick
That's gay, why do you want to be gay when a wet pussy is right there?
Shiggydiggy

>> No.23303452

>>23303406
Could certainly use less of you chuds


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23303255 No.23303255 [Reply] [Original]

What is the canon of authors worth reading in translation? whose ideas are more important than the language/style in which they wrote?

>> No.23303268

>>23303255
everything actually becomes better when it is translated into english

>> No.23303321

>>23303255
I suppose you are talking about fiction. Non-fiction doesn't depend on prose.

So: Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. The French Catholic writers. Dante.

>> No.23303426

>>23303255
Poe is much better translated in French.

>> No.23303435

>>23303426
He's simplified, like all complex English writers translated into French, I don't know if that's better...
But then the French loved Faulkner with all the sauce removed


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23303237 No.23303237 [Reply] [Original]

>Infinite Jest
>book has a finite amount of pages and therefore must contain a finite amount of jest

>> No.23303249

If DFW were a zoomer he would've named it Jestmaxxed


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23303226 No.23303226 [Reply] [Original]

>there exists a universe where all bachelors are married
What the fuck did he mean by this?

>> No.23303230

The bride stripped bare by her bachelors even


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23303224 No.23303224 [Reply] [Original]

>IS THAT JOYFUL NEGRO MUSIC???? THE WEST HAS FALLEN HELP ME MY FURSONA IM GOING INSAAANE
What a shit book

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>> No.23303248

tfw no manic pixie dream girl to teach me to have fun

>> No.23303253

>>23303248
this but gay

>> No.23303297

wtf was that ending?

>> No.23303314

>>23303248
>tfw no manic pixie dream tulpa
ftfy

>> No.23303675

>>23303224
>it was all a dream
really?


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23303219 No.23303219 [Reply] [Original]

>The sun is the size of a human foot.

What did he mean by this?

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>> No.23303257

>>23303219
common sense wins again :)

>> No.23303284

>>23303219
Have you ever been to the sun? Who are you to say he is wrong?
That's what I thought.

>> No.23303288

>>23303219
the context was completely lost

>> No.23303420

>>23303219
Reality is relative to perceptual reality
He is really quite smart

>> No.23303454

>>23303219
That the mind has limitations and is inherently deluded.


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23303208 No.23303208 [Reply] [Original]

Is synthetic a priori possible?

>> No.23303211

>>23303208
Yes

>> No.23303217

>>23303208
>>23303211
Are analytic a posterior judgements possible

>> No.23303313

>>23303208
That's what the subconscious is for.

>> No.23303531

>>23303208
synthetic a priori is not possible
analytic a posteriori is a way to approach


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23303204 No.23303204 [Reply] [Original]

>In that story, a handsome bourgeois man travels through a Buenos Aires slum where butchers and other racialized proletarians are working. It is Lent; he is a Unitarian, a Buenos Aires resident disinterested in distributing the port’s income to the entire country. Noticing him, the barbarous poor – federalists, in favour of distribution – attack and ultimately rape him. Argentine literature, as David Viñas remarked a few years before ‘El fiord’ was published, began with a homosexual gang rape.

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>> No.23303394

Rosas was fucking wild man, dont fuck with the caudillo

>> No.23303404

>>23303204
SEXO CON ROSAS

>> No.23303405

>>23303204
vení porteñito, no tengás miedo, sólo te vamos a mazorquear

>> No.23303428

>>23303204
Are there any books where a prole gets raped by the bourgeoise?

>> No.23303699

>>23303204
>and ultimately rape him
A salutary application of corncob therapy, rather.


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23303190 No.23303190 [Reply] [Original]

>Not only were merchants considered hindrances, but there was also no public conception that merchants performed any valuable labor in the economy. In fact, the term labor was not considered a concept that applied to the work of most wholesalers and retailers, who were seen as middlemen who raised prices on goods without providing any added value to the products themselves. To the Roman mind, there were producers, who had some skill, and therefore some utility to society, and then there were associated hangers-on, whose work was an unnecessary intervention between consumers and the sources of goods themselves. The ideal scenario was the elimination of these parasitical figures, especially if it was possible to replace them, in some way, with one’s own personal production. This was considered the ideal state for humans in Roman society, and the dream of self-sufficiency was commonplace not only among the general public, but also among merchants themselves.

>> No.23303596

>>23303190
How is direct capitalism without middlemen relevant to Marx who wanted to abolish capitalism?

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23303697

>>23303190
Merchants in the Middle Ages angered the clergy too, mostly for moral reasons. They were often freemen who weren’t bound to the land and often took up buying properties to conduct business which eventually created the middle class by offering work to formerly landed serfs.


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23303144 No.23303144 [Reply] [Original]

I have all the books from 1-11 in this chart so which one should I read first?

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>> No.23303171

>>23303144
>Ulysses
Read the Odyssey, Dubliners and Portrait Of The Artist As A Young Man first. Best left for last.
>Moby-Dick
Read Shakespeare, KJV and go Iliad->Odyssey->Aeneid->Paradise Lost before you tackle it.
>Blood Meridian
Read Moby-Dick first.
>Stoner
The easiest book there, feel free to read it first.

>> No.23303172

>>23303144
Lolita, Blood Meridian, and Moby Dick are all great. Personally Lolita is the best read but I think Blood Meridian resonated with me a lot more.

>> No.23303278

stoner. It's the only one that's actually easy and "fun" to read.
>inb4 seething littard
all the others actually require some effort, at least just to start. Stoner is the only one that read like a breeze, maybe don quixote too but I still wouldn't recommend it.

>> No.23303300

>>23303278
The Iliad is a blast to read, though it requires having a certain mindset.

>> No.23303384

>>23303144
Depends on what you are looking for. For example in English lit, the bible only has literary merit in the KJV (because it's more about the KJ bible than the actual text). If you are a native English speaker Dostoevshy might be better, for your purposes, in the Constance Garnett translation than an accurate one as that translation is how most 20th century English author's approached the book, and that translation has a distinctive style. BTW why would someone read Zarathustra without reading (more studying) the phenomenology of spirit, it's kind of a pointless book without that context? Obviously I don't agree with the chart as I would drop swap 83 for (either depending on if you are going for prose or poetry) The Canterbury Tales or The Countess of Pembroke's Arcadia and 100 for Capital Vol 1. Finally if you weren't raise with it you should read the book of common prayer, it has more influence on the English language than anything else.


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23303133 No.23303133 [Reply] [Original]

What are some good books that advocate for kicking homosexuals in the chin and sending them flying across the room?

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>> No.23303167

>>23303133
There are no good books because people advocating violence to solve their own internal repressed conflicts are usually too stupid to write books.

>> No.23303170

>>23303167
Muhammad was a homosexual? Are you a homosexual?

>> No.23303173

>>23303167
im trans btw, idk if it matters

>> No.23303571

>>23303133
Why the chin? Why not the eyes or neck?

>> No.23303577

>>23303165
>>23303170
Actually it's the hadith that advocates the death penalty for gays, the Quran just frowns on it


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23303114 No.23303114 [Reply] [Original]

Have any novels written in the 21st century integrated the internet and cellphones into the story without it being cringe/forced? Any good ones?

>> No.23303225

The Sluts

>> No.23303246

>>23303114
In my novel I mention social media and smartphones in passing, that's it. Seems like the only possible way to implement it without dating instantly, as we all know what the internet is. I can imagine it was a bit more difficult in the early 2000s when old boomers had to describe a relatively new phenomena to other old boomers.
If you want an example of how it's implemented poorly, check out Dead Man's Trousers by Irvine Welsh. One chapter early on has an awful sequence with some boomer-tier logic about how a little kid accidentally pulls up a private sextape by trying to access Minecraft on his Xbox through somehow connecting to the internet. The book came out in 2018 btw.

>> No.23303258

>>23303114
>>23303246
Also, to answer our original question, the only book I can think of is a 2004 Doctor Who novel where they use the internet to get this alien up-to-date on English language and human culture. I can imagine other young adult books implement it well as their target audiences are already well aware of the internet and, as I said earlier, aren't trying to appeal to a generation who hasn't grown up with it

>> No.23303425

>>23303114
I think Dark Matter by Blake Crouch did a good job of integrating text messages into the story. It's a sloppy sci-fi about alternate universes that's pretty interesting. Though to be fair, I haven't read many books that featured that technology so my sample size is limited.


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23303108 No.23303108 [Reply] [Original]

I'm halfway through Confessions and it's an absolute masterpiece, has me laughing and feeling deeply along with him. What a noble soul. I've read his discourse on inequality and now this, where should I go next? I'm less interested in his politics, as I'm a right wing racist fascist, but I'm interested in him, I believe he's an honest and pure man and I love reading his thoughts and his open heart

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23303293

>>23303136
Ah there it is, classic academic seethe
You love to see it

>> No.23303334

>>23303108
Just to clarify is this Jean Jacques Rousseau of "Emile."

How long have you been reading Rousseau? Did you start from that Emile excerpt a few weeks ago, like I did?

>> No.23303367

>>23303334
Yes, the same JJ, how long? I read discourse on inequality of men a few months ago, then read a bunch of other shit and now am reading Confessions. I haven't read Emile nor have I read any excerpts, I spend most time on fit and rarely come here (but I should more, slow boards are a bit of a pain when I'm seeking distraction in the workday)

>> No.23303422

I like his femdom stuff

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23303691

>>23303108
Kill yourself nazi faggot


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23303089 No.23303089 [Reply] [Original]

Thoughts on our greatest living poet?

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23303363

>>23303089
extraordinary writer

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23303372

>>23303089
You mean this guy?

>> No.23303374

>>23303363
I swear to God I will never understand the cult surrounding her. The majority of her music is boilerplate Tumblr musings and generic pop garbage. Her PR team must be full of psychics or something. Even the mainstream press will lavish her garbage with praise and adoration

>> No.23303379

>>23303131
Honestly, why are women like this? They start an "art" page where they post their childish doodles and suddenly figure themselves as a serious artist.

>> No.23303389

>>23303374
It’s a mass hysteria event. She’s such a middling talent. I can understand why girls like her but for the critics to give her immense praise is insane


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23303083 No.23303083 [Reply] [Original]

Has anyone read this book?

I have been struggling through it and I'd like to talk to someone about it, cause frankly it totally mystifies me. He has passages critiquing evolution which are so alien to my normal mode of thinking it's like they were written by another creature. Similar to how in "Beyond the Pleasure Principle" Freud sometimes seems to be writing from a POV so alien that it's hard to grasp.

>> No.23303286

>>23303083
>critiques evolution
Sounds right up my alley


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23303056 No.23303056 [Reply] [Original]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcJvtCMzjuM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEgz76YKHHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U994AW9WOPg

Oh dearestestestest mind, my dear find, that wouldn't mind. Resolution up- mostly of most pleasures -that matter don't and won't- earthly pleasures that can be a feature-mostly to the final solution.

Pero no me rendire, ni fingire, my dear chungus, que en el abismo of the abyss, solution final para mi final. On la isla, which is my sista. Indoctrination finalized. And a epoch new realized. My querida peach, my fingida leech.

Of imaginations foretold, ages ago -for some told, forever and ever and whatsover- my querida darling.

その美少女、which 美少女, los biscochos, grant me, decreta me, ぞの夢俺に必要。だれかやだれかや。

But まけない。
俺をまけない。
チュウドたち。
Porque my kisamatachi.

I will unleash my soul, my alma, into the despairs mas profundos, mas deepers.
Of which no souvl has arrived, my dear durazno, mi querido asno.

Porque, Why, 何ので。

その時 when miraba cual しょねん los abismos of depair, nobody helped me.

Asi que.

I wont まけない、 no permtirioreloss asi, my dear peach.

Destiny will arrive hopefully into a glorious nuevo destino.

Anime alive will become be.
Lo prometo.

>> No.23303076

>>23303056
The nobody seriously?

What a weird poaching scam

>> No.23303159

kill yourself schizo retard

>> No.23303161

>>23303056
糞を食うおかまがいじ(ん)。

>> No.23303206

you are the most obnoxious poster on /int/
i have colombians filtered specifically for you

>> No.23303235

>>23303056
>Oh dearestestestest mind, my dear find, that wouldn't mind.
stopped reading there