/lit/ - Literature

This only becomes the perfect micro-meme if everyone criticizing the trailer did not actually view the trailer.

>>6600943
>Also I thought that was Everybody Hurts playing in the background and I laughed

I think it was 'Strange Currencies.'

>>6600891
>i'm starting to fucking feel glad i read IJ at 16 and don't have to again because i feel more like bloom every day

It's better the second time than the first. It is The Entertainment.

Though I don't blame the journalist for trying to make money off of the tapes of their conversations, it was not a very enjoyable read. The examining nature of his (most specifically non-fiction) writing voice makes him just talking in a car or diner gruelingly recursive time and fucking time again. 'What does X say about me and what does it mean that I ask what X says about me and what does it mean that I care what X's meaning to me means' for-fucking-ever.

Siegel looks like he's in an SNL skit. Getting the speaking voice right might have been worth more than the 10 minutes he evidently put into it.

>>6600052

Technically.

There's something Maranthe says to Steeply at the outlook that I think sums the book up much better than this marketing blurb, though.

I wonder how long it will be until they come out with his first draft. I would love to have the 400+ more pages version.

>>6596847
>Re-read Corrections. You'll see it's not near as good as you thought.

Well, I enjoyed it, but not enough to be inclined to read it again.

>Drop trip, btw.

Will do.

The Corrections was very good. Freedom amounted to nothing.

He's a great drummer. The Police would not have been the same band without him.

>>6595941
>Liberalism ("you have no rights to impose") is itself a rather arbitrary set of opinions though.

Libertarianism is much more straightforwardly pro-liberties, or at least it used to be before the party was invaded by Republicans who brought their atittudes re: abortion with them. Now the cluster of cells has liberties but the actual person does not.

>>6595873
>Yes, this is your opinion, and you have no rights to impose it on people.

That's right, and I have no urge to. Women's choices about their pregnancies are none of my business.

>>6595723
>You just have different fee-fees, lads. That's all that this matter comes down to. "Person" is essentially an arbitrary value judgement.

Absolutely. Which is why although I am uncomfortable with abortion after the point of viability, I do not think my personal distaste for these circumstances should bind a woman actually in them.

>>6595368
>So your argument is based on saying my argument is invalid because many people who make my argument believe in other things which are inconsistent with it?

Anyone who makes your argument is wrong, regardless of what other things they may believe that are or are not consistent.

But if you believe abortion to be murder, then that should absolutely dictate your decision in the event of you having an unwanted pregnancy. But it's not binding for anyone else. Oftentimes, people who feel as you do have a change of heart when it's them who winds up pregnant, and not some 'slut who deserves it.' Then they look at things much more practically.

>>6595046
>Fetuses are persons at a certain point, unless you are seriously making the argument that it's not a person until the umbilical cord is cut, tehn all of a sudden you have a person. A person is something that slowly develops, it doesn't suddenly come into being, either at conception or at birth.

I don't dispute that fetuses are arguably persons at some point in their later development, but people who want to take away women's rights often decide that point is conception.

>Nice generalization. I have no problems with my tax dollars going to babies, it's a lot better than some of the other shit my money is spent on, like wars and bailouts.

That's laudable, but I doubt you'd dispute that the people I described exist in large numbers.

>I'd prefer to be birthed by a mother who smoke and drank, especially if that's in moderation, than to be crushed in the womb.

Well, society prefers that women who intend to become mothers do what they can to assure that their babies will be born healthy. This doesn't mean that society takes charge of her uterus when she becomes pregnant.

>>6594615

She's got a 'hot Eva Braun' thing happening.

>>6594763
>When he says that the Military is an evil, vicious, soul-destroying group that no one should work for he shouldn't work for it, either.

Has he really said that no one should work for the military?

>>6594733
>He did communications research for the Pentagon.
>In his (and every other researcher's) defense, applied communications pretty much meant working with the military or not doing research, up until the computer really become common.

Well, he's been forthcoming about MIT receiving funding from the military. that making him a defense contractor seems kind of stretchy, though.

I don't see being critical of tax laws benefiting the wealthy and taking advantage of legal tax strategies as hypocritical, though. He might be reluctant to have his tax dollars pay for the sort of immoral things he views our government as doing.

>>6594601
>Abortion is "other peoples business's just like murder is "other peoples business".

No, it's not, because murder affects an actual person, not a developing fetus you want to assign personhood to. Why is someone else's pregnancy any more your business than your medical procedure a Christian Scientist may not approve of is THEIR business?

Why is it usually the people who feel like they have to speak up for fetuses that want none of their tax dollars going to these fetuses once they're babies?

>It's funny how leftists will agree that a mother has responsabilities to her unborn child's wellbeing when it comes to things like drinking and smoking, but the much more severe crime of murder is absolutely permissable.

It's not that funny, really. If a woman decides she is going to become a mother, she should take responsibility that the baby is born healthy. If she doesn't want to become a mother, she takes responsibility in another way.

>>6594648
>after all, even when he admits he is a multi-millionaire defense contractor who uses trusts and shelters to avoid taxes people line up to pay him thousands to tell them rich people are bad and avoiding taxes is morally wrong.

He's a defense contractor?

>>6594364
>Chomsky is demonstrably a hypocrite and liar.
>And he admits, openly, that he doesn't believe critical things he says.

When/where?

>>6594393
>>hey you
>>yeah you
>>you get murdered now
>>sorry but you'll be statistically more likely to commit crime and we've preemptively decided that your life isn't worth living
>>RIP young child, at least you can rest in peace knowing that you never had to be a burden to some dumb whore
>>your sacrifice means she can further sleeping around with whatever men she wants, something that's clearly more important than your life

It's weird to talk to something that doesn't develop hearing until the 24th week or so.

Sometimes I think it's the rush of moral superiority that makes anti-choice people so determined to intrude into other people's business, and to want to use government to do it.

>>6592131
>can you justify this ? You do know that if I pay for the abortion, I can have a say on its practice?

A) I don't know where you live that has you paying for abortions, and B) No, paying for it doesn't really give you a say on it, either. I understand you might think it should, but it isn't hard to think of examples that show this premise as false.

>>because they have no appreciation of the circumstances.
>just like a doctor is exterior to all this, just like the mothers themselves sometimes.

No, actually the woman and her doctor have a perfect understanding of the circumstances faced. You just want to inject big government bureaucracy into it, in hopes that you will be able to interfere in circumstances you have no specific grasp of.

>>6591478
Why does life have to be all about providing worth for autistic STEMfags? You'll live and die just like the rest of us, anything of "worth" will just fade into nonexistene like everything else. Why not just enjoy the time you have here, and allow others to enjoy the time they have here? and humanities are quite valuable to a huge number of people, actually a majority of the world if you look at the monetary value placed on works of art. Do you even realize how limited and debilitating your utilitarian philosophy is?

>>6588694
So since I'm biochem master race do I win because we transcend this shitty graph? Seriously, it looks like a kid in middle school made it, no p-value or y-axis, and the GRE as a sole metric for IQ? Christ I could go on for days about the flaws with this shit.