/lit/ - Literature

>>4787921
>>4787936
Qué tipos. "No hablamos con sh, hablamos y". Jajaja, lo que hay que leer.

Bump limit is close, still no sticky.

>>4787883
>being this delusional

Do you even hear yourself?

>>4787807
>>4787812
Is yours all that edge? Are you gonna eat it?

>>4787579
Márquez himself said that. lawl

take this haters

>>4787266
Muchos años después, frente al pelotón de fusilamiento, el coronel Aureliano Buendía había de recordar aquella tarde remota en que su padre lo llevó a conocer el hielo.

Good night, sweet prince.

Well, guys García Márquez just died. Let's re read Cien años de soledad in his honor.

>>4787069
Haha, don't worry, pal, you see, in the Pokemon games there is a rare chance of finding a pokemon with different color than it's usual palette. That's a shiny pokemon. They're very rare and trainers dream about finding one.

>>4786958
I'll respond to you because you're some kind of shiny argentinian or something. We had this discussion in class, actually it went on for three classes, about Facundo being a novel or not. We cloncluded that it was, the same it was a political essay, a biography, a speech and a guideline. To be honest, I won't put it inside one literary genre, but the third part is certainly novelesque.

>>4786947
It doesn't, but I've read some. I like Lispector and Guimaraes.

>>4786825
One of the very first things you learn as you grow up is never listen to an argentinian.

>>4786461
Thanks for the Adán Buenosayres suggestion. I'll check it out when the spring break is over and I hit the library again.

>>4786476
He's one of the few well known uruguayan writers, but his style is more close to argentinian fantasy. I don't remember now (I just woke up), but maybe he was doing gret fantasy before his neighbours. Check out his short story El acomodador and if you like it you can follow with Las Hortencias.

>>4785791
Ok man, you're the embodiment of Bolaño's will. I'll give you that.

>>4785786
I assume that by contemporary you mean alive, so I'd say Sergio Pitol, but he's an oldman with no more that one of two years left.

So contemporary... I think the title is in dispute between Villoro and Parra with the first taking the lead. Only time will tell.

>>4785782
Ok, there are three stages of gaucho literature worth pointing put from an entry level perspective. I'm assuming you already not about post colonialism and all that crap.

1) Faustino Sarmiento's Facundo. Biographical novel about one of the greatest gauchos. It's boring, but it has three parts and one of them is entirely dedicated to make clear that Rosas was wrong and liberals were right. That's the foundation of argentinian thinking.

2) Martin Fierro. An epic poem about the gauchos, their songs and culture. Boring, but if you're really into the subject, it can be really enlightening.

3) Borges. Read his short story The South. It gives closure to the gaucho literary tradition, acknowledges it's worth and moves on. This is part of why Borges is so important to Argentina.

>>4785777
You gotta trust me, I won't put that on a paper. Also, if you knew the number of people trying to kick Bolaño out of the canon, and the even more outstanding numbre of people trying to dont let Mario Santiago (Ulises Lima) onto the canon, well, maybe you'd understand.

>>4785749
Nigger, I'm mexican and have a degree on literature, don't you think I've read Ibargüengoitia already? In fact I'm currently re-reading Instrucciones para vivir en México as this newbie writer, Daniel Espartaco, is trying to emulate Ibar's sense of political irony and black humor, and I need to re read Vela Perpetua and Las muertas to voice an opinion about it.

>>4785726
I've read the translation of Savage Detectives and there are two things worth pointing out:

1) Culture and understanding of Mexican literary tradition. One of the things Bolaño is best at is not caring about the reader's literary background. In Savage Detectives he puts fictional and real poets to interact with each other. They're just like any other character, and this shows up in 2666 too, as Archimboldi is a fictional writer passing as a character the same way real writers do in Savage Detectives. So the translation doesn't focus too much on that matter and reads pretty well. As far as cultural reference go, as with any other foreign book, there is no help, slang will lose it's power.

2) Prose. Susprisingly, Bolaño's prose style translate great. I would go as far as saying some passages flow better in english. On the other hand, some characters have very subtle voices and the translator got lost, failing to translate the text marks that define them.

>>4785509
>Implaying spanish speaking people read

Well, from my point of view he's far from forgotten, as I took a course on spanish golden century, as well as from /lit/'s point of view because people on here actually read. But, as a native spanish speaker, the cultural impact Lope de Vega has on the average Joe is close to cero, while Cervantes is mentioned even in elementary school and everyone knows about that loon who liked to fight inanimated objects. In fact, even bums could tell you this line: En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no puedo acordarme...

>>4785489
Try me.

Ok, so I'm going to make a hispanic literature thread because I went to college to study that and I feel the subject is rarely discused on /lit/ so I hope I could bring that to the table as a newtrip.

So tell me /lit/, what do you like? I know you like Borges because is fantasy done beyond right, and you like Márquez because of his ability to create entire worlds with its own logic and still be relevant as literary fiction and as a commentary of our own world. But, besides that, what do you like?

As you can see, my author is Bolaño. I love him. I would suck his dick if he was alive. His novels are like his life and backwards. The repercutions his persona had over literary history are being pondered right now and I want to dedicate my academic life to be part of the discussion.

So lets talk. Do you like entry level things like Cortázar or Benedetti? Maybe something more worthwhile like Oneti or Bioy?

Also feel free to ask any question about the subject.

What about Lope de Vega? Everyone talks about Cervantes, but not about his rival. Fuenteovejuna is one of the highest peaks of spanish drama.