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>>13069762

I was interested in zen buddhism, then found out it was just quasi-vedanta, and vedanta itself is just an archaic form of Guenonian thought. Now I'm thinking sufism is the way to go. Any advice on on where to start with islam as a white westerner? Im new to Guenon and was wondering where to start with his work on islam?

all bait aside is this guy good to learn about eastern tradition? looking over the recent buddhist threads im not entirely sure anymore. I was thinking about picking Intro. to Hindu Doctrines and from there maybe book up a original text with his other hindu studies book?

>serious replies pls

>>13031569

I really want to read guenon but I don't know exactly what he contributed to philosophy and how its applicable now. Also, can I read his stuff and not become hindu and still take stuff from his works? Like idk what fascinates him so much but I'm planning to follow the chart /lit/ made about him but I also don't want to waste my time with some hinduism shit. Please help? Thanks

Oh it’s a “church” alright.

>But this is not yet all, for one other thing under the heading of 'counterfeit' is perhaps even more worthy of note than anything mentioned so far, and that is the requirement imposed on anyone who wants to practise psychoanalysis as a profession of being first 'psychoanalyzed' himself. This implies above all a recognition of the fact that the being who has undergone this operation is never again the same as he was before, in other words, to repeat an expression already used above, it leaves in him an ineradicable imprint, as does initiation, but as it were in an opposite sense, for what is here in question is not a spiritual development, but the development of an inferior psychism. In addition, there is an evident imitation of the initiatic transmission; but, bearing in mind the difference in the nature of the influences that intervene, and in view of the fact that the production of an effective result does not allow the practice to be regarded as nothing but a mere pretence without real significance, the psycho-analytic transmission is really more comparable to the transmission effected in a domain such as that of magic, or even more accurately that of sorcery. And there remains yet anothervery obscure point concerning the actual origin of the transmission: it is obviously impossible to give to anyone else what one does not possess oneself, and moreover the invention of psychoanalysis is quite recent; so from what source did the first psychoanalysts obtainthe 'powers' that they communicate to their disciples, and by whom were they themselves 'psychoanalyzed' in the first place? To ask this question is only logical, at least for anyone capable of a little reflection, though it is probably highly indiscreet, and it is more than doubtful whether a satisfactory answer will ever be obtained; but even without any such answer this kind of psychic transmission reveals a truly sinister 'mark' in the resemblances it calls to mind:from this point of view psychoanalysis presents a rather terrifying likeness to certain 'sacraments of the devil'.

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source: The Misdeeds Of Psychoanalysis By René Guénon

>>12617531
>*blocks your path*

>pfft the stupid western canon can never compare to the BASED eastern tradition, do you even know how advanced those BASED indians were? hah of course not you stupid brainlet, all I need is the upanishads!

I heard someone once say here that Heidegger's conception of truth (a unity of the immanent and the transcedent) was ani-traditional, although didn't elabourate. Is that not literally what Guenon says though in the Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines? Ie. That truth is found by removing the distinction of subject and object through ascetecism?
Am I wrong here? Any anon please help me out here.

What Guénon books should I read? He has so fucking many, I am reading the Symbols of Sacred Science, because I like thinking about symbols, and it is interesting, but I would like to know more about his more general thought.

Like his metaphyiscs, his views on various religions and things like zodiac, which he has mentioned in this book.

So out of the like 30 possible books which are good ones to start with?

>Indeed, some of the problems commonly engaging the attention of philosophical thought appear to be deprived, not only of all importance, but of any meaning as well; a host of problems arise resting solely upon some ambiguity or upon a confusion of points of view, problems that only exist in fact because they are badly expressed, and that normally should not arise at all. In most cases therefore, it would in itself be sufficient to set these problems forth correctly in order to cause them to disappear, were it not that philosophy has an interest in keeping them alive, since it thrives largely upon ambiguities.

leave Deleuze to me

Was he right about all traditions having a common source? That there's one true human religion with many traditions?

Was he happy?

All the bullshit aside. Whether you agree with him or not. He lived what he preached. Do you think it made him happy in the end?

So whose gonna give a rundown on this guys metaphysics?
I read Intro to Hindu and the majority of it was like:
Metaphysics is immutable and universal.
You can't logic into it, it comes as an apprehension of intuitive insight, or somthing.

What is his metaphysics?
How do I apprehend it, if you can't logic into it?
What practices should I do to experience it? Meditation? Read the Gita?

Which author do you think of when see the word "based and redpilled"?

Does Christian theology even approach the depth of Eastern metaphysics?

How would traditionalists like Evola and Guenon respond to say, Lacan or Bataille? Specifically their notions of lack and transgression?

thoughts?

>>10987883
forgot pic

Can somebody post the chart for what order to read guenon?

Also is there one for Evola? If not what is the best order to read him?

>>10747302
look at his beautiful elongated face, how could anybody call him materialist?