/lit/ - Literature

>>20509173
> He knew that he knew nothing, thus knew something, did he not?
I mean knowledge of philosophical interest.
> inb4 b-but that is of philosophical interest
Fuck off, faggot. At this point you're just conceding my point.
> What do you know then?
That Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were self-promoting charlatan hacks who subverted Ancient Greek civilization and terrorized the noble people to further their silly ideological beliefs.

>>20509136
> I'm the wisest person because I know that I don't know anything!
Cringiest quote ever. And that faggot nerd really thought he was clever in saying that. Not many people actually claim to know everything, or even act like it. If anyone ever did so, it was Socrates's ilk.
I never claimed to know everything.
Plato, however, was always prideful of his knowledge. And he and Socrates were shameless self-promoters.
Socrates pretended to have knowledge. He did not. He could only needlessly question, subvert, and play sophistical word games. He had no knowledge and thus professed a lot less ignorance than he truly had. Socrates was perhaps one of the most ignorant pseuds in Athens.

>>20509109
> the good is the good
You don't need any of these old faggots to tell you that, now do you? If you do, then you are truly lost and all too hopless.

> Be Plato
> Suck at philosophy
> Can't refute people's arguments
> It's okay! I don't actually have to be good at arguing! I can just get some strawmen to play around with!
> Makes people, dead or alive, say things they never said, just so he could come out on top.
What a fucking hack.
>>20509045
This is from Diogenes Laërtius btw.

> XXIV. But Molon, who had a great dislike to Plato, says “There is not so much to wonder at in Dionysius being at Corinth, as in Plato’s being in Sicily.” Xenophon, too, does not appear to have been very friendlily disposed towards him: and accordingly they have, as if in rivalry of one another, both written books with the same title, the Banquet, the Defence of Socrates, Moral Reminiscences. Then, too, the one wrote the Cyropædia and the other a book on Politics; and Plato in his Laws says, that the Cyropædia is a mere romance, for that Cyrus was not such a person as he is described in that book. And though they both speak so much of Socrates, neither of[126] them ever mentions the other, except that Xenophon once speaks of Plato in the third book of his Reminiscences. It is said also, that Antisthenes, being about to recite something that he had written, invited him to be present; and that Plato having asked what he was going to recite, he said it was an essay on the impropriety of contradicting. “How then,” said Plato, “can you write on this subject?” and then he showed him that he was arguing in a circle. But Antisthenes was annoyed, and composed a dialogue against Plato, which he entitled Sathon [an expletive which sort of rhymes with Plato(n)'s name and that he nicknamed Plato and which apparently means "dick"]; after which they were always enemies to one another; and they say that Socrates having heard Plato read the Lysis, said, “O Hercules! what a number of lies the young man has told about me.” For he had set down a great many things as sayings of Socrates which he never said.
Nobody likes this "Dick", not even his faggot friends. What kind of a man puts words into another man's mouth? a man whom he supposedly considers to be a mentor and a wise tutor? He wouldn't be shocked to learn, I imagine, that long after his (well-deserved, but far too late) execution, Plato went on writing dialogues where he used his mentor's rotting corpse as a mouth piece for his own idea. How much more disrespectful can a man get? His dead friend? whose death he whined so much about? Funny.

>>20508391
As long as you read them knowing how sinister these characters are. How their doctrines destroyed nations and how they plotted and schemed to enslave all of the civilized world.
Plato was notorious for being a prideful fame-seeker. It's incredible that we now look up to these charlatans. These people were looking to "connect" with and influence people (they were ideologues trained in networking with the elite).
>>20508494
Aristotle had a hand in Alexander's demise by poison. Look up "Hagnothemis" to learn more about the sinister shit Aristotle did.

>>20508119
> History is written by the victors.
If History says that Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle are the good guys, who are the victors again?

History looks upon the accusers of Socrates as if they simply reactionary fools--but who is the fool? the person who reacts to the menace that has engulfed his once great and happy nation into misery, anger, pain, and despair? or the people who read from the comfort of the armchairs of the extraordinary life of Socrates, a man who was oh so unfairly and unjustly persecuted and eventually executed for his crimes of simply asking important questions. Is it the person acting on real life experience? or the person acting on millennia old propaganda? Socrates might have discounted writing, but Plato et al. made sure to take that all very seriously, for now very obvious and very nefarious reasons.

> Socrates: Time to tutor a tyrant to terrorize the people (the same people who will eventually make me pay for my crimes)!
> Plato: Time to try to influence a tyrant into bringing about my sick and twisted Utopia (the same tyrant who will eventually enslave me until I'm bought out of slavery by a friend like the utter faggot I am)!
> Aristotle: Time to tutor a neurotic world-conqueror (the same neurotic world-conqueror whose assassination I will aid in; after which I will run away to go live on an island to avoid my just deserts)!

> Caracalla's mania for Alexander went so far that Caracalla visited Alexandria while preparing for his Persian invasion and persecuted philosophers of the Aristotelian school based on a legend that Aristotle had poisoned Alexander. This was a sign of Caracalla's increasingly erratic behaviour. But this mania for Alexander, strange as it was, was overshadowed by subsequent events in Alexandria.[293]
Hahaha, I have no sympathy for those faggots!

>>19360114
Foucault: [would you have a state liquidate the working class if you thought they were naughty]?
Chomsky: yes
Foucault: [the working class is literally incapable of being wrong because they can only be becoming power. Right and wrong, good and evil, they are beyond these]

For Foucault the class becomes a self justifying praxic subject beyond good and evil.

For Chomsky they’re naughty boys and girls who need to be spanked into being social democrats.

And honestly son my sexual desires are darker and deeper than light spanking.

>>19360362
You’re the homeless guy in the library masturbating to pictures from sitcoms?

Did I solve the riddle?

>>19360279
Stop praising him. It’s tiresome.

If in doubt, after you’ve aligned with dictatorial aristocrats who smash cocks in public, commit suicide by committee by demanding the public pay you to work out when you’re squatty fatty gnome man.

>>19358589
Your mate has become a knowledge lover. He probably wants to work out all day and determine what ought. It sounds like you’ve been hiring people to write speeches for you, son…

>>19358087
Post his husband love. Or penis wife. Whatever you know.

>>19357905
So why are you replying to it?

>>19357686
What is purity? What is it to degenerate? How can a flying horse with a cock attached to its head be moral?

>>17370237
Why should we make the mob the center of truth?

Only if it overwhelms the law. What is the purpose of the judge if the audience is too far swayed by the emotional affect?

>>16189720
A Scanner Darkly is a masterpiece

>>16168386
>r/whooosh

>>16162521
I don't get it. Why is this woman posted everywhere?

>>16157057
I'm reading through it rn. It's incredible. MC is an autistic tradcath and would fit perfectly on /lit/ or /his/. Funniest shit I've ever read.

>>16155564
no