/lit/ - Literature

>>7979721
good god

One day John came to my house and read this book. He flipped through the pages till he reached this very sentence and thus he read aloud , "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud, "...he read aloud,...

>>4081218
I thought that was apparent. I never claimed some objective understanding of Nietzsche or some identical set of beliefs.

>>4081218
I'm by no means an authority. I'm just a guy who read a few books and has his own takeaway.
I'm not simply representing Nietzsche's philosophy. I'm examining it and then adding my own understandings to it.

>>4081109
Alright. I gotta agree with you, man. I'd drink to OP's lack of Nietzsche with you any time.

>>4081067
I am saying that creators are products of their fucking environment. A creator is a a creator because it is the physical manifestation of what had to happen. A creator can't choose to create. A creator is just a product of it's environment. There is NO flaw to pick at.
However, you are right in that I was being the devil's advocate and picking at the details of your post. I do that.
And yeah, our views are almost identical from what I can see.

>>4081032
Let me explain more. One cannot create oneself. A person's being is determined by the factors that create and change it (including it's own reactions). A morality is an idea that has been pieced together by the order, degree and type of stimuli that one is exposed to. Therefore, the environment creates a morality, which is part of the person. The person can not create their own morality and they can not choose.

>>4081018
Of course it is the overman's own. But it didn't come from him and nothing else. Everything is dependent upon it's environment. That includes the moralities someone "makes".
>lrn 2 determinism

>>4081008
This. That fucking tool doesn't know shit. You tell him.

>>4080936
You got it all wrong. The overman is supposed to recognize the natural nihilism of existence and profess his morality. He is supposed to take command and affirm life. He allows his world view to command him, and therefore he commands the world. Get it?
And his persuasion does not clash with my initial point. It doesn't at all.

>>4080801
>(will to power) that exists prior to being.
Although he claimed this, I believe the will to power in physical-applications is more of a thought-exercise than an actual belief of his. That isn't to say that the will to power isn't the dominant psychological force.
>Truth is constructed by the observer
False. I suggest reading "Truth and Untruth," which is a book pieced together of clippings in which Nietzsche talks about Epistemology. At one point, he says, “There are many kinds of eyes. Even the sphinx has eyes- and consequently there are many kinds of 'truths,' and consequently there is no truth.”
Sorry! Better luck next time!
>The solution to fixing this problem is logically to totally dominate them.
That isn't true either. Nietzsche wanted them to give themselves to the overman because he is so agreeable.
>Saying the world is will to power is arbitrary.
You can say that again.
>Becoming totally free is anguish because we don't know what to do.
Nietzsche clearly states that total freedom is bullshit. He says this again again in "Beyond Good and Evil" when he tears Kant's philosophy down. He tells us that we are a collection of parts and therefore we are slave to our parts and unable to be free. That makes this point totally moot.

>>4079929
Although I take it that this is a reference to the fact that he called himself an immoralist, it would be totally wrong to argue that Nietzsche didn't work with morality.

>>4079893
>you create your own moral world view
HAHA. I laugh at you. Nietzsche knew full and well than no one is fully in control of their perception and that your moral world view is based more on your society, upbringing, etc... than it is on choice. In fact, Nietzsche didn't believe in free-will, so there is no choice. He wasn't a fucking existentialist.
>you try to create your own world based on this view
Well, only creators and the overman do that, but valid point.
>your world view and creation are beset on all sides by other world views and other physical forces
While this is true for most, the overman is strong enough to change those around him and to persuade them to agree with his.
>if these external forces don't alter or impede your moral world view or the creation of your world, you are superduper
Not really.

>>4079865
>lrn 2 wikipedia
Just look it up and then dish out some cash and buy a fucking book. Don't even act like you get it until you've read and understood it, though.

>>2811344

>If you can see a certain behavior repeat itself through history, and in closely related animals, can one not cross out culture?

And what is your evidence to support this claim?
Protip: There is none.

The Bonobo ape is the species most related to humans, and women has none of the traits OP mentioned. Are you dense?

Do you have any evidence that this is because of their genetics and not because of culture?
If not, your claim should be treated just as the claim that Santa Claus exists.

>inb4 Santa Claus exists.

Last read: Othello by Shakespeare
Currently reading: Catcher in the Rye by Salinger
Next: The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exuperie

Sup bitches

Last read: The Norse Myths
Currently reading: T.S. Eliot - The Waste Land and Other Poems
Next to Read: I am uncertain, maybe Treasure Island, The Republic of Plato, or some Norse lit.

>>2489530
I'm so fucking high dude and reading that was mindblowing. Thanks.

>>2489520
>>2489520
wiki'n ; thanks mang.

>>2489501
>>2489501
That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks man, I'll definitely pick it up. The deepest I've ever gone with any Latin-American literature is Pablo Neruda's work - which is excellent.

>>2489487
>>2489487
Absolutely. Carry on.

>>2489483
Where to start? googlan'

>>2489464
Absolutely, just don't admit your age.

>>2489465
Bahahah too true mang. The older I've gotten the more I realize I know nothing.

>>2489459
MY IDENTITY HAS BEEN REVEALED

Yeah OP, for the majority of my 4chan career I was underagedb&, and I would just not confirm/disconfirm the fact and nobody ever noticed.