/lit/ - Literature

>>17315937
This is a far more nuanced point than made in the OP, which mostly seems to be concerned with convincing us that liberal secularism = religion. "The UN is the Vatican! The Constitution is the Bible! Nelson Mandela is the apostle Paul! And -- and Kofi Annan is John the Evangelist! And hate speech laws are like the Spanish Inquisition!" Blah blah blah. That said, the OP image is pretty funny.

>>17315912
>not understanding anything that's being said at first, but... finally achieving the desired state where understanding and enjoyment become one
I never got beyond the first part with Gravity's Rainbow, tbqh.

>>17315892
I hate it when people stretch the definition of "religion" this far out of shape in some weird attempt to own their ideological opponents.

>>17315886
>so much Don Giovanni autism
Please elaborate.

>>17315880
I can't imagine where you'd get that impression.

>>17315811
Sometimes insightful, always hilarious. Forget homosexuality and drug addiction: being a loser is our society's final taboo.

I haven't read his poetry.

>>17315529
Envy is unbecoming, anon.

>>17315689
Yes! My glory can only die once my name is forgotten. Don't you read Homer?

Anyway, returning to the topic at hand, has anyone here read the Oxford edition of Epictetus's discourses? It seems like everyone (myself included) goes with the Penguin edition.

>>17315609
>Yeah? Well read this, fat fucking cunt, if I find where you live I'm going to rape you and beat you to an inch of your life, literally slam your skull against the pavement and press my boot down until blood starts to leak out.
...he typed while frantically yanking at his half-turgid member, tears gathering in his eyes.

>>17315504
So that my glory will live on after I have gone down to the sturdy house of death.

>>17315531
Aww.

>>17315501
Despise. Despise. Good lord.

>>17315403
We despite Prufrock precisely because we identify with him.

>>17315474
Epictetus is, in my opinion, the most readable of the big three.

>>17315373
You should have told him about the beautiful Lesbians in the Iliad.

>>17315313
Obviously that's an exaggeration, but it is clear that the sin of the left is too-casually dismissing past achievements, whereas the sin of the right is treating them fetishistically.

>>17315297
<3

>>17314448
The second one was better.

>>17314483
I don't think Trump is worse than Hitler, at least in terms of his effect on the world.

As for the worst thing Trump has done, probably squandering his own life. Imagine reaching age 74 as a resentful, impulsive-driven philistine. It's a potent reminder that age doesn't necessarily bring wisdom.

>>17314455
No. I'm offering those as examples of "bad Trump policies."

>>17314428
(noun) A course or principle of action adopted or proposed by a government, party, business, or individual.

I had one very disappointing conversation.

>>17314366
1. Build a giant wall and make Mexico pay for it
2. Resurrect the coal industry
3. Make sweeping cuts to the U.S. Education Department
4. Eliminate gun-free zones at schools
5. Increase the U.S. Army to 540,000 active duty soldiers

Of course, he failed to accomplish any of this. Don't get me wrong; Trump also had some very good policy goals that he failed to accomplish.

>>17314356
>American conservatism is just a mental illness like every single other American movement.
Don't talk that way about jazz.

>>17314208
Conservatism, at one point, was identified with a cautious and skeptical attitude toward change, a readiness to appreciate what is good and noble in tradition, and a rejection of change for change's sake. "Conservative" didn't always refer to conspiracy theorists who worship an illiterate orange man and want to destabilize society in order to spite their enemies.

>>17311769
Is this some sort of Norse thing?