/lit/ - Literature

>>21459105
>Because people here can see through the convention politics, being unrelated to them, and can recognize her for the shit-tier misery-tourist fujoshit that she is.
>All those books are about is misery, failed relationships and abusing male relations by faggots, which are portrayed as being morally right for doing it.
As someone who was a big fan of Robin Hobb in my teenage years, I don't think I would have liked her books as much as an adult. I'm a sucker for tortured and miserable protagonists, but the way relationships were handled in the book were always weird to me, just like in Earthsea. Women just write people differently, that's a fact. I don't think Fool/Bastard stuff was off-putting, but I was surprised when reading it. Now, looking back at the story, it's clear that if Hobb was born in our age she'd write fujo fanfics and shit.

Nothing weird about it, though. Artists are always weird. You must be a bit insane to autistically spend hunderds of hours on creating fictional words about exaggerated human experiences, mostly as a vessel of writing about your interests or fetishes.

Is Robin Hobb worth reading? From what I can tell the opinions are mixed between those who love it and those who say it’s too frustrating because of the MC being stupid and bad things always happening to him. If true it seems like a bad combo. I can tolerate a good bit of misery porn but when paired with an MC who is a fuck up that just sounds incredibly frustrating, and yet so many people love it..?

>>20387181
>Robin Hobb's
I hope you like misery porn, anon.

>>19608126
it's all misery porn, not sure why hobb wrote three thousand books about a character she hates

>>19145682
If you care at all about prose DO NOT read anything by Sanderson. He writes like an autistic kid tells a story, a vomit of information that gets bogged down in irrelevant details constantly.
Wheel of Time is somewhat better in that is actually has prose, but it is and was intended to be a big fat 80's anime, and it never tries to be anything else.

If you want something more Hobb like (albei without all the misery porn) try the Penric series by Bujold.

>>19001130
Never read Bakker, but Hobb is good. Misery yes, but well told misery.

Why are we pitting authors against each other? Why is it always Bakker-fags trying to assert superiority over other authors?

>>17315225
From what I remember there is basically no interaction with anything that happens in the first trilogy, and the conclusion to the books is absolutely plenty to leave you satisfied if you don't want to go farther. They do have very lasting consequences on events later in the series, but you could choose just to not read any more. That said a lot of the initial draw for me was just how drastically different the two settings are despite being on the same continent. and the slow burn of discovery as things start to unravel and the big picture starts to come out was very satisfying.
But yeah. Trademark Hobb misery porn is still loud and proud.

>>17315257
not to mention that fitz is literally incapable of growing emotionally past his trauma due to the events at the end of assassin's quest

>>17314985
yeah I haven't read fitz and fool either. I finished everything including rain wilds, which were okay but overstayed their welcome, about a year and a half ago and I just haven't been able to go back. It's all a bit hard to stomach, even if fitz got his "happy end" I know it only gets worse.

>>17315018
Liveship books are awesome and almost entirely self-contained, especially if you don't go any farther than them. There's some real suffering and misery in them too but it was not quite as hard to swallow as Fitz's worst moments. I also loved how much it does to develop the lore of Hobb's world.
Second fitz trilogy is, honestly, a difficult read. If you like a lasting emotional response they're very good but I honestly had my headspace get kinda fucked up while reading them and certain sections had a noticeable impact on my mood for days.

>>16299082
or
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=hobb+misery
Of course, could all be a single poster.

Thought on Robin Hobb? Reading pages of effete redditors salivating over the ceaseless misery of a browbeaten youth has once again reignited my hatred for her works. I'm curious if it's similarly received here or if I'm not the only person who finds her books distasteful.

>>14860195
That trilogy and the rest involving Fitz are thinly veiled misery porn
I don't know why Hobb wrote 9 books about a character she hates

Why are the hobb anons shitting up the general with their misery porn novel?
I don't want any of your fucking feels.

>>12557540
>reading Hobb
>an assassin who doesn't assassinate people
You brought this on yourself. I will not recommend anything because you will ignore it to read another reddite favourite. Enjoy your misery.

>>11588663
okay well what would you recommend instead? Also, I'm not gonna lie and say I found the first two books (the only ones I've read) to be perfect. The second was frustrating as shit and relied way too heavily on the idiot ball. A common issue with middle installments, I understand, but Hobb took it too far, imo. It went a little far into misery porn territory as well, imo.

There are aspects of the series that do appeal to me, though. The characters are mostly interesting and well developed (still waiting for Regal to not be shit), and her prose is really engaging to me. But I swear, her continuity errors can be really frustrating for someone as analytical as me.

And please, if someone actually knows the answer, just tell me.

>>11108616
The thing that gets me is that generally unless it's by Robin Hobb or another misery porn author, you're gonna get some level of entertaining power fantasy even if it's "nothin' personal kid" tier trash.

But with litrpg it's just lietrally some guy playing a video game. how the fuck is that entertaining.

>>10850640
Robin Hobb is great. As far as I'm concerned she's one of the strongest fantasy authors. Anons here often complain about it being "misery porn". The truth is that she's one of the few fantasy authors who excels at characterisation (especially in the Farseer Trilogy) so you actually care when stuff happens to the characters.

Since you have something against assassins then you may want to look into the Liveship Trilogy, which starts a bit slower but is still excellent.

>>10780885
Robin Hobb mainly writes misery porn from what I've heard.

Like I saw some people talking about the game Owlboy elsewhere and basically the plot has the character getting bullied and abused by everybody else, with no good ending, and somebody qupped "wow didn't know Robin Hobb was making games now."

>>10766008
>comic sans TAVERN
lol

Corsair by Chris Bunch.

Where Loyalties Lie by Rob Hayes.

Half of the second Locke Lamora book is about him being a pirate. (the other half is about robbing a casino)

There's the Liveship Traiders series by Robin Hobb, but it's Hobb so I dunno if it's misery porn like the rest of her stuff or not.

Also there's always the Aubrey-Maturin series for non-piratical nautical adventures.

>>8689020
Hobb's idea of the hero's journey is one book for introduction and then a descent into misery. It's how all of her series go.

It's not fun conflict, it's just the protag being fucked by stuff they can't control over and over

>one good book
>next is about magic making you fat
>third has the main character as an observer
I take it back fuck Robin Hobb and soldier's son

Exact same thing the Fitz books did, draw you in with an interesting tale and then descend into misery

I'm reading Fool's Assassin by Robin Hobb.

wasn't sure about giving this one a shot, because Fitz's story ended quite well in the previous story, and because the last thing I've read by her (Soldier's Son trilogy) was slow and dull and never really went anywhere. I've never been a fan of the parallel series either, so I skipped the Rainwild stuff, for now.

This book, however, feels like a warm blanket. She takes her sweet time establishing the somewhat mundane life of the main character now that his prime days of intrigue, killing and adventuring is largely over, but she does it in a way that rarely bores me.

I don't know whether it's the writer's age or attachement to the characters she's writing about, but lately she isn't fixated anymore on making her them constantly suffer like in her early books. The Tawny Man trilogy was also dulled in this regard, and was probably better for it. It's not like there isn't conflict or suffering anymore, but her strikes are more focused now, so they come as a surprise rather than being a constant lingering of pain and misery.

>>829665
This one lists "Assassin's Apprentice" by Robin Hobb as a coming of age story. This is technically true, but also wildly misleading. Do not, for love's sake do not read the book if what you want to read about is a boy who grows up to be a respected and successful adult.

The tale Robin Hobb weaves is filled with heartbreak and misery and just basically deviates in every conceivable way from what you would expect in a coming of age story. The only reason it's not a complete lie is that the protagonist starts out young and gets older over time.