/lit/ - Literature

>>15101632
>>15101632
you are an election tourists lol, you came here in 2017 and started sperging about 'theosophy shill'. Ever since then you've been samefagging yourself (as other anons have documented) in order to astroturf this board into thinking everyone is reading guenon when there is 0 discussion of his actual ideas and nothing but forced memes that didn't go anywhere.

It's a shame that actual traditionalist discussion has been killed off for good now, pre-2016 /lit/ contained myriad of meaningful threads about evola and guenon. So thanks a lot for ruining traditionalism for everyone!

>>14120772
>neovedantist doing his usual routine of "everyone I've ever talked to is the same person!"

I'm not a Buddhist, nor am I the "Kant shill," nor am I the "Theosophy shill," or whatever your latest obsession is.

Man you are fucking schizo. You literally think multiple people calling you out for the same behavior means there's one guy who has been following you around for years but who somehow keeps changing religions and philosophies.

Like I said to OP, take this guy's statements with a grain of salt. Of course, if he's right about something he's right. But you can see a glimmer of his insanity right here.

>>13927825
Who is Guenonfag?

Once upon a time there was a little anon who stumbled upon a book from an obscure French Muslim author (Abdul Al-Wahid Yahya, formerly known as Rene Guenon). He had never read any substantial works of any author, had never started with the Greeks, and was never really introspective into metaphysical matters.

But on that day, his life was transformed. So enamored with his first and only foray into the esoteric arts, he took it upon himself to spread the word of Guenon and preach perennialism (which is basically just advaita for incels) to the four channels of the net. In an effort to unite trad minded folk, he created 'Traditionalism general' for peeps to discuss authors such as Guenon, Evola, Coomaraswamy, Schuon etc.

The discussion was initially fruitful and healthy. That was until he was *gasp* -criticized- by a supposed 'theosophy/kantian shill'. He couldn't understand this feeling for which he had never felt before. He thought to himself 'could Guenon's infinite wisdom be imperfect? Could he really have derived his framework from the German idealists?'. 'No', he uttered. It's the others who are wrong (of course). He lashed out and attacked the 'Theosophy shill' relentlessly. Several shitposters then went in to bait him. Each consecutive thread resulted in constant sperg outs, alienating the casual traditionalists that partook in those threads (including evolists, sufiists and neoplatonists). Soon he turned on the Evolists and basically anyone who looked at him funny. His momentary freak outs were so common it spilled out into other threads. The moderators eventually decided to delete traditionalism general threads, which resulted in the so called 'Trad Exodus'.

He would later try to revive trad generals by disguising it as 'eastern general', only to resort to samefagging once he realized the old trad posters had gone forever. He has since continued the shill job in virtually every thread to do with eastern philosophy and eastern religious discussion often making a fool of himself. His random freakouts still happen from time to time, often culminating in multi-thread shitposting.

This is the story of Guenonfag, the one responsible for the destruction of traditionalism in this board.

>>13756266
can we please post more Best of Guenonfag moments itt

my personal favorite: the "theosophy shill" episode, where he thought he was being persecuted by a theosophist for several months. also note the
>Btfo lmfao.
mannerisms, which he's still doing

>>13183749
How to spot Guenonfag

>walls of texts replying to multiple quotes
>freaks out when he's directly refuted
>saying 'based' or 'this' to his own posts
>uses words like 'BTFO' and 'COPE' frequently
>posts cringe memes in an attempt to dog pile his critics
>conflates criticism of him with attacks on his author
>'just read him bro, only pseuds don't read him'
>tries to reverse accusations, 'b-but the one who made that infographic is actually the real schizo lmao' etc
>often makes logical fallacies/brain farts trying to shill his cult author but continues shitposting to avert attention
>praises pajeets and condemns 'pol-tier racism' (ironic considering he promotes a white man as the central authority of indian philosophy)

Who is Guenonfag?

Once upon a time there was a little anon who stumbled upon a book from an obscure French Muslim author (Abdul Al-Wahid Yahya, formerly known as Rene Guenon). He had never read any substantial works of any author, never started with the Greeks, and was never really introspective into metaphysical matters.

But on that day, his life was transformed. So enamored with his first and only foray into the esoteric arts, he took it upon himself to spread the word of Guenon and preach perennialism (which is basically just advaita for incels) to the four channels of the net. In an effort to unite trad minded folk, he created 'Traditionalism general' for peeps to discuss authors such as Guenon, Evola, Coomaraswamy, Schuon etc.

The discussion was initially fruitful and healthy. That was until he was *gasp* -criticized- by a supposed 'theosophy/kantian shill'. He couldn't understand this feeling for which he had never felt before. He thought to himself 'could Guenon's infinite wisdom be imperfect? Could he really have derived his framework from the German idealists?'. 'No', he uttered. It's the others who are wrong (of course). He lashed out and attacked the 'Theosophy shill' relentlessly. Several shitposters then went in to bait him. Each consecutive thread resulted in constant sperg outs, alienating the casual traditionalists that partook in those threads (including evolists, sufiists and neoplatonists). Soon he turned on the Evolists and basically anyone who looked at him funny. His momentary freak outs were so common it spilled out into other threads. The moderators eventually decided to delete traditionalism general threads, which resulted in the so called 'Trad Exodus'.

He would later try to revive trad generals by disguising it as 'eastern general', only to resort to samefagging once he realized the old trad posters had gone. He has since continued the shill job in virtually every thread to do with eastern philosophy and eastern religious discussion often making a fool of himself. His random freakouts still happen from time to time, often culminating in multi-thread shitposting.

This is the story of Guenonfag, the one responsible for the destruction of traditionalism in this board.

How to spot Guenonfag

>walls of texts replying to multiple quotes
>freaks out when he's directly refuted
>saying 'based' or 'this' to his own posts
>uses words like 'BTFO' frequently
>posts cringe memes in an attempt to dog pile his critics
>conflates criticism of him with attacks on his author
>'just read him bro, read his works, why aren't you reading him, only pseuds don't read him'
>tries to reverse accusations, 'b-but the one who made that infographic is actually the real schizo lmao' etc
>often makes logical fallacies/brain farts trying to shill his cult author but continues shitposting to avert attention
>praises pajeets and condemns 'pol-tier racism' (ironic considering he promotes a white man as the central authority of indian philosophy)

Who is Guenonfag?

Once upon a time there was a little anon who stumbled upon a book from an obscure French Muslim author (Abdul Al-Wahid Yahya, formerly known as Rene Guenon). He had never read any substantial works of any author, never started with the Greeks, and was never really introspective into metaphysical matters.

But on that day, his life was transformed. So enamored with his first and only foray into the esoteric arts, he took it upon himself to spread the word of Guenon and preach perennialism (which is basically just advaita for incels) to the four channels of the net. In an effort to unite trad minded folk, he created 'Traditionalism general' for peeps to discuss authors such as Guenon, Evola, Coomaraswamy, Schuon etc.

The discussion was initially fruitful and healthy. That was until he was *gasp* -criticized- by a supposed 'theosophy/kantian shill'. He couldn't understand this feeling for which he had never felt before. He thought to himself 'could Guenon's infinite wisdom be imperfect? Could he really have derived his framework from the German idealists?'. 'No', he uttered. It's the others who are wrong (of course). He lashed out and attacked the 'Theosophy shill' relentlessly. Several shitposters then went in to bait him. Each consecutive thread resulted in constant sperg outs, alienating the casual traditionalists that partook in those threads (including evolists, sufiists and neoplatonists). Soon he turned on the Evolists and basically anyone who looked at him funny. His momentary freak outs were so common it spilled out into other threads. The moderators eventually decided to delete traditionalism general threads, which resulted in the so called 'Trad Exodus'.

He would later try to revive trad generals by disguising it as 'eastern general', only to resort to samefagging once he realized the old trad posters had gone. He has since continued the shill job in virtually every thread to do with eastern philosophy and eastern religious discussion often making a fool of himself. His random freakouts still happen from time to time, often culminating in multi-thread shitposting.

This is the story of Guenonfag, the one responsible for the destruction of traditionalism in this board.

>>13109873
quick rundown:

How to spot Guenonfag
>walls of texts replying to multiple quotes
>freaks out when he's directly refuted
>saying 'based' or 'this' to his own posts
>uses words like 'BTFO' frequently
>posts cringe memes in an attempt to dog pile his critics
>conflates criticism of him with attacks on his author
>'just read him bro, read his works, why aren't you reading him, only pseuds don't read him'
>tries to reverse accusations, 'b-but the one who made that infographic is actually the real schizo lmao' etc
>often makes logical fallacies/brain farts trying to shill his cult author but continues shitposting to avert attention
>praises indians and condemns 'pol-tier racism' (ironic considering he promotes a white man as the central authority of indian philosophy)

Once upon a time there was a little anon who stumbled upon a book from an obscure French Muslim author (Abdul Al-Wahid Yahya, formerly known as Rene Guenon). He had never read any substantial works of any author, never started with the Greeks, and was never really introspective into metaphysical matters.

But on that day, his life was transformed. So enamored with his first and only foray into the esoteric arts, he took it upon himself to spread the word of Guenon and preach perennialism (which is basically just advaita for incels) to the four channels of the net. In an effort to unite trad minded folk, he created 'Traditionalism general' for peeps to discuss authors such as Guenon, Evola, Coomaraswamy, Schuon etc.

The discussion was initially fruitful and healthy. That was until he was *gasp* -criticized- by a supposed 'theosophy/kantian shill'. He couldn't understand this feeling for which he had never felt before. He thought to himself 'could Guenon's infinite wisdom be imperfect? Could he really have derived his framework from the German idealists?'. 'No', he uttered. It's the others who are wrong (of course). He lashed out and attacked the 'Theosophy shill' relentlessly. Several shitposters then went in to bait him. Each consecutive thread resulted in constant sperg outs, alienating the casual traditionalists that partook in those threads (including evolists, sufiists and neoplatonists). Soon he turned on the Evolists and basically anyone who looked at him funny. His momentary freak outs were so common it spilled out into other threads. The moderators eventually decided to delete traditionalism general threads, which resulted in the so called 'Trad Exodus'.
He would later try to revive trad generals by disguising it as 'eastern general', only to resort to samefagging once he realized the old trad posters had gone. He has since continued the shill job in virtually every thread to do with eastern philosophy and eastern religious discussion often making a fool of himself. His random freakouts still happen from time to time, often culminating in multi-thread shitposting.
This is the story of Guenonfag, the one responsible for the destruction of traditionalism in this board.

How to spot Guenonfag

>walls of texts replying to multiple quotes
>freaks out when he's directly refuted
>saying 'based' or 'this' to his own posts
>uses words like 'BTFO' frequently
>posts cringe memes in an attempt to dog pile his critics
>conflates criticism of him with attacks on his author
>'just read him bro, read his works, why aren't you reading him, only pseuds don't read him'
>tries to reverse accusations, 'b-but the one who made that infographic is actually the real schizo lmao' etc
>often makes logical fallacies/brain farts trying to shill his cult author but continues shitposting to avert attention
>praises pajeets and condemns 'pol-tier racism' (ironic considering he promotes a white man as the central authority of indian philosophy)

Who is Guenonfag?

Once upon a time there was a little anon who stumbled upon a book from an obscure French Muslim author (Abdul Al-Wahid Yahya, formerly known as Rene Guenon). He had never read any substantial works of any author, never started with the Greeks, and was never really introspective into metaphysical matters.

But on that day, his life was transformed. So enamored with his first and only foray into the esoteric arts, he took it upon himself to spread the word of Guenon and preach perennialism (which is basically just advaita for incels) to the four channels of the net. In an effort to unite trad minded folk, he created 'Traditionalism general' for peeps to discuss authors such as Guenon, Evola, Coomaraswamy, Schuon etc.

The discussion was initially fruitful and healthy. That was until he was *gasp* -criticized- by a supposed 'theosophy/kantian shill'. He couldn't understand this feeling for which he had never felt before. He thought to himself 'could Guenon's infinite wisdom be imperfect? Could he really have derived his framework from the German idealists?'. 'No', he uttered. It's the others who are wrong (of course). He lashed out and attacked the 'Theosophy shill' relentlessly. Several shitposters then went in to bait him. Each consecutive thread resulted in constant sperg outs, alienating the casual traditionalists that partook in those threads (including evolists, sufiists and neoplatonists). Soon he turned on the Evolists and basically anyone who looked at him funny. His momentary freak outs were so common it spilled out into other threads. The moderators eventually decided to delete traditionalism general threads, which resulted in the so called 'Trad Exodus'.

He would later try to revive trad generals by disguising it as 'eastern general', only to resort to samefagging once he realized the old trad posters had gone. He has since continued the shill job in virtually every thread to do with eastern philosophy and eastern religious discussion often making a fool of himself. His random freakouts still happen from time to time, often culminating in multi-thread shitposting.

This is the story of Guenonfag, the one responsible for the destruction of traditionalism in this board.

How to spot Guenonfag

>walls of texts replying to multiple quotes
>freaks out when he's directly refuted
>saying 'based' or 'this' to his own posts
>uses words like 'BTFO' frequently
>posts cringe memes in an attempt to dog pile his critics
>conflates criticism of him with attacks on his author
>'just read him bro, read his works, why aren't you reading him, only pseuds don't read him'
>tries to reverse accusations, 'b-but the one who made that infographic is actually the real schizo lmao' etc
>often makes logical fallacies/brain farts trying to shill his cult author but continues shitposting to avert attention
>praises pajeets and condemns 'pol-tier racism' (ironic considering he promotes a white man as the central authority of indian philosophy)

Who is Guenonfag?

Once upon a time there was a little anon who stumbled upon a book from an obscure French Muslim author (Abdul Al-Wahid Yahya, formerly known as Rene Guenon). He had never read any substantial works of any author, never started with the Greeks, and was never really introspective into metaphysical matters.

But on that day, his life was transformed. So enamored with his first and only foray into the esoteric arts, he took it upon himself to spread the word of Guenon and preach perennialism (which is basically just advaita for incels) to the four channels of the net. In an effort to unite trad minded folk, he created 'Traditionalism general' for peeps to discuss authors such as Guenon, Evola, Coomaraswamy, Schuon etc.

The discussion was initially fruitful and healthy. That was until he was *gasp* -criticized- by a supposed 'theosophy/kantian shill'. He couldn't understand this feeling for which he had never felt before. He thought to himself 'could Guenon's infinite wisdom be imperfect? Could he really have derived his framework from the German idealists?'. 'No', he uttered. It's the others who are wrong (of course). He lashed out and attacked the 'Theosophy shill' relentlessly. Several shitposters then went in to bait him. Each consecutive thread resulted in constant sperg outs, alienating the casual traditionalists that partook in those threads (including evolists, sufiists and neoplatonists). Soon he turned on the Evolists and basically anyone who looked at him funny. His momentary freak outs were so common it spilled out into other threads. The moderators eventually decided to delete traditionalism general threads, which resulted in the so called 'Trad Exodus'.

He would later try to revive trad generals by disguising it as 'eastern general', only to resort to samefagging once he realized the old trad posters had gone. He has since continued the shill job in virtually every thread to do with eastern philosophy and eastern religious discussion often making a fool of himself. His random freakouts still happen from time to time, often culminating in multi-thread shitposting.

This is the story of Guenonfag, the one responsible for the destruction of traditionalism in this board.

>>12282457
>you don't know enough about him to distinguish the difference anyways

i am not an expert, i suppose, but i know a hell of a lot more than that guenonfag guy (the theosophist one).

not sure if you're familiar with him, but he's been posting pro-theosophy shill shit on this board for well over a year. he used to be more obvious about it, directly linking to theosophical interpretations, but when he got called out he started pretending he was only a reader of guenon.

>>12282405
i already told you, theosophy shill. try going up and reading it. in fact, that's a good strategy for you in general. try actually reading guenon and the upanishads, instead of just projecting blavatsky's ideas onto them lol.

>>11843928
i agree, guenonfag and theosophy shill are both real and they are both hilariously cringe

>>11720552
he’s right, though im not a theosophy shill i haven’t read anything from that school in over two years, and i never advocated explicitly for theosophy, all i said was evola and guenon took things from her then conspicuously went out of their way to denigrate her, publishing a book about her specifically to capitalize on the milieu she helped catalyze with her movement and then exploited the ignorance of orientalists to say idiot things about hinduism, such as its actually intellectual noetic focused, and that they did not believe in reincarnation, its actually a super rigorous philosophical system and advaita is the real hinduism etc. that’s all i ever did to this shitskin nigger retard.

>>11720042
>While I disagree with the strict orthodox/heterodox division Guenon and yourself used, I did agree that certain views arose in orthodox schools which later fell out of favour.

I agree with that, I wasn't paying super close attention and I mistakenly thought you were arguing that the concept of atomism itself (separate from Vaisheshika as a school) was fundamentally orthodox and I wanted to figure out why you thought that. As far as I'm aware orthodox is just what Hindus just consider to be in alignment with the Vedas/Sruti and like you said it eventually came to be the general view of Hindus that atomism itself was unorthodox. I don't pretend to speak for Hindus and was only arguing it was unorthodox insofar as it was later regarded to be as such by many Hindu thinkers, I was under the misimpression you were arguing that atomism was widely accepted as orthodox (even past the era when Vaisheshika was popular). I agree that the orthodox distinction isn't super important but is mostly a method of classifying different doctrines in relation to one another, for example you have certain tantric sects regarded as heterodox despite being almost identical to Vedanta in many aspects.

>>11720047
>Your last wonderful thread
I didn't post that thread, whoever did it was obviously joking around, nobody would ever seriously include what was written there unless they were asking to be trolled.

>You thinking you are being persecuted by a "Theosophy shill" "for over a year"
lmao I don't think I am being persecuted by a 'Theosophy shill', around 8-10 months ago some Muslim guy started posting Trad generals and some dude showed up in them and would argue in elaborate ways that Traditionalism actually stemmed from theosophy, you can see a classic example of it here
>>/lit/thread/S10943892#p10950480

I thought it was dumb and made fun of him as did many other posters but I couldn't care less about him. There are a bunch of people who are aware of him, most of those posts in the archive with that exact phrase are not mine.

>You getting fucking rekt by the guy tha supposedly "agreed with you in the end":
That's hardly getting rekt, we are debating minor details of something and as he himself said 'I totally agree'

>You are a terrible, terrible poster.
Says the poster who is throwing around childish insults like sandnigger and who was completely btfo when they tried posting about Hinduism and Buddhism. Your only response was to try to cobble together a bunch of archived posts I may or may not have made on an anonymous website where dozens of people post anonymously about any given topic, what a joke. You have nothing of substance to say and get destroyed every time you argue with regard to details and so you are reduced to creating a strawman out of anonymous postings and acting like that's somehow an argument. The absolute state of western Buddhists, I suggest you meditate.

>>11719738
>Grow a backbone and stop complaining that someone is 'ruining the discussion'

Your last wonderful thread
>>/lit/thread/S11470879

You thinking you are being persecuted by a "Theosophy shill" "for over a year"
>>/lit/thread/S11577383#p11589919

You being a paranoid delusional maniac:
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=%22theosophy+shill%22

You getting fucking rekt by the guy tha supposedly "agreed with you in the end":
>>/lit/thread/S11609082#p11611825
>That's very different to earlier statements where you appeared to categorically dismiss atomism's overlap with orthodox thought. But if you only meant what you just said now, I totally agree.

You are a terrible, terrible poster.

>>11720042
Holy shit, he's here!

>>11589643
Funny pasta but there actually is an unironic and persistent theosophy shill who has been at it on /lit/ for over a year. Of course you already know this but I just thought I'd point it out.

>>11578886
>it's another 'low-key theosophy shill who always tries to deconstruct Guenon and Traditionalism by incorrectly presenting them as a hodgepodge of neoplatonism, protestest theology, and various ideological movement etc but always low-key shills theosophy by finding ways in his numerous posts to hint at it being 'The Real Stuff' that Guenon copied his ideas from' episode

>>11502559
This, basically a slightly more interesting Blavatsky

>inb4 the Theosophy shill responds to this post with a long rant

>>11473233
Sure sure sure. It's always a "joke" when you try to sabotage these threads, Theosophy shill.

>>11473239
>Traditionalism looks "good" when it's blended into Theosophy

Try actually reading a book instead of playing pretend. Do you even practice a tradition? What is with the Theosophists in these fucking thread?

>>11473191
Is this something you read about in Theosophy, shill? Maybe Theosophy talks about such things but Guénon decisively BTFO Blavatsky in his 1921 book History of a Pseudo-Religion.

Thanks for stopping by! Continue being immature and ruining threads. Fucking loser lmfao.

>>11471052
You're really trying wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard Kant and Theosophy shill. I'm starting to thikn you might have a problem that goes beyond just your hatred of ADvaita Vedanta and Guénon. Maybe you should get that checked out, hmmm?

>>11470907
>the theosophy shill is so persistent and butt-hurt that he is copying and pasting his rants from the last thread

Everyone ignore the theosophy shill, he is attracted to these threads like a fly to honey driven by his burning desire to avenge Blavatsky, he was a recurring character when OP was posting these threads several months ago. He seems even more angry and unhinged than he did before.

>>11465654
>ou've unmasked yourself lol, the cause of your autistic angry rants throughout this thread stems from your hatred of Guenon because he BTFO Theosophy with his book about it. Out of every anonymous personality on /lit/ the angry theosophy shill (you) is one of the most amusing.

Theosophists are still angry about that book. One of the more cringeworthy articles on it:
https://www.theosophical.org/publications/42-publications/quest-magazine/1696-against-blavatsky-rene-guenons-critique-of-theosophy

Like Aleister Crowley put it:
“Theosophist: A person who talks about Yoga, and does no work.” — Liber ABA, Glossary.