/lit/ - Literature

What do you think of Nabokov? What are your favorite novels of his, and where does he rank amongst your favorite writers?

>I pride myself on being a person with no public appeal. I have never been drunk in my life. I never use schoolboy words of four letters. I have never worked in an office or in a coal mine. I have never belonged to any club or group. No creed or school has had any influence on me whatsoever. Nothing bores me more than political novels and the literature of social intent. My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime,
cruelty, soft music. My pleasures are the most intense known to
man: writing and butterfly hunting.

>Well, I'll put it this way. When a boy, I was a voracious reader, as all boy writers seem to be, and between 8 and 14 I used to enjoy tremendously the romantic productions-- romantic in the large sense-- of such people as Conan Doyle, Kipling, Joseph Conrad, Chesterton, Oscar Wilde, and other authors who are essentially writers for very young people. But as I have well said somewhere before, I differ from Joseph Conradically. First of ail, he had not been writing in his native tongue before he became an English writer, and secondly, I cannot stand today his polished clichйs and primitive clashes. He once wrote that he preferred Mrs. Garnett's translation of Anna Karenin to the original! This takes one dream-- "ca fait rever" as Flaubert used to say when faced with some abysmal stupidity. Ever since the days when such formidable mediocrities as Galsworthy, Dreiser, a person called Tagore, another called Maxim Gorky, a third called Romain Rolland, used to be accepted as geniuses, I have been perplexed and amused by fabricated notions about so-called "great books". That, for instance, Mann's asinine Death in Venice or Pasternak's melodramatic and vilely written Zhivago or Faulkner's corncobby chronicles can be considered "masterpieces," or at least what journalists call "great books," is to me an absurd delusion, as when a hypnotized person makes love to a chair. My greatest masterpieces of twentieth century prose are, in this order: Joyce's Ulysses, Kafka's Transformation, Biely's Petersburg, and the first half of Proust's fairy tale In Search of Lost Time.

What comes after the sun? In an effort to preserve the grace of your youth you've come back to this moment in conversations, in your poetry, in your solitude, and for every attempt you've come back less like yourself and more like the balding man from the mirror. There was music once, but your memory produces only the pattering of rain. The corrugated metal roof outside is starting to rust, but your grandmother doesn't notice, or doesn't care. Each morning she makes her coffee beneath the little garden awning where she keeps the stove. You aren't asleep, but you're pretending to be because you don't want to do work. Today it's going to be the tomatoes, or the peppers, or you'll have to redo the apartments if the structural engineer has changed the column layout again. You dream in CAD layers and parametric solids and ignore your grandmother calling you down for breakfast.
Your days in the city are saturated with sun. Your poetry is not good enough to publish so you read it on slam poetry nights in bars around the university and talk about it on dates. Your solitude is becoming less distinct, as if it is becoming something else. You're not sure where dinner ends and dreams begin. You never had dreams you could taste before, it's like your mind is struggling to begin something, to get it working. When you're awake you keep trying to recall the moment that grew backward in time until it came to stand for your entire life before its occurrence, and sometimes you are rewarded with pieces.
It sounds like dry grass and wood smoke. The sky is clear, and wide, and wondrous, and your mind is a darkening blue expanse stretching from when your mother held you upright on the bed so you could dance together to music from the television, across years, and cities, and illness, over the soft, sodium-lit moment of your first kiss, and all the wine and winters spent reading, over the mountains where it grows pale and indistinct, and scatters into the haze of distance.

You DO listen to music while you read, right?

How do you pick up girls at classical music concerts?

what are your own coping methods for depression and suicide ideation aside from conventional remedies such as exercise, sleep, eating well? Seeing depression is a major issue that happenes to pop on here frequently, Ive assumed maybe we could gather from our own experiences valuable insights and mechanisms that we could apply against depression. Anyone felt so depressed as to being unable to read? I just can’t seem to break away from it, I moved back to my parents in the countryside, I’m isolated from everything and everybody, I’ve discovered that my so called friends were a farce, no job or prospects, even excon and expelled from uni, mounting debt, broke up with my gf bcuz i thought i was just wasting her time, unable to sleep till 7 am for weeks, it’s just daunting, feel like I have a right to my life and would be reasonable solution if this just keeps going and find no escape. I’ve been working on a music album that’s about these themes but even then there just seems to be no point in anything

>finally managed to get a girl come over to my place
>she sees the small classical music collection
>she sees the small hifi setup
>she sees that I have a piano
>says the she is feeling "unwell"
>leaves
>ghosts me
Fuck, why does this happen to me?

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT DIVINATION

This is week 6 of your "Meditations on the Tarot" (MOTT) book club
The subject for this week is: THE EMPEROR (pages 77 to 96)
If you haven't read it, you can do it now.

Next Saturday (June the 8th, 2024) the Arcana due is THE EMPEROR (2st week)
but you will be, of course, welcome to post any insights, notes, questions regarding the previously read materials.

1. I packed MOTT & books most relevant to it into a convenient 184MB archive
link: https://files.catbox.moe/0ubl85.zip
There is also two auxiliary archives:
2. Holy Texts (Catholic study Bible + Tanakh w/ Hebrew-English parallel text 163MB)
link: https://files.catbox.moe/8j0iyi.zip
3. Tarot related (histoical, occult, and professional investigations 187MB)
link: https://files.catbox.moe/3tjyjx.zip

>Good podcasts related to MOTT:
https://podtail.com/es/podcast/the-christian-mysticism-podcast/
https://shwep.net/podcast/ (is LGBT, but abstains 99.95% of the time)
>Good music to listen while reading MOTT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lS_Y-aNJwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2Clq0rDR-w

>Note:
Additional books are only to be discussed if relevant to the current (or previous) MOTT chapter we are discussing.

Please stop using them. They are anti-words designed that pretend to have a definition and meaning but have neither. They make you dumber in fact and in appearance and create inner darkness which cause an inability to understand your own emotions. Do no use them in public, private, or even in rough company. This is central to the literary crisis of our era. It isn't purely moral, though it has morality as a dimension, but is fundamentally intellectual. We never see Plato or Aristotle curse. Avoid these words like plague. There is a reason all low-bro music, television, and movies are positively littered with them and it's because they factually make you dumber and more manipulable. Think of saying that x is so horrifically terrible versus so "f"ing terrible - one is a word and the other is "vibe," it converts cultural lowness into a word and masquerades as seriousness when these curses block up the minds ability to think. I'd go so far as to say that sentences with curse words purposefully exist just to be vehicles for these linguistic terrorist attacks.

I won't read replies due to predictable outcomes.

I'm gonna use godot as my book canvas.

:D

Better than a PDF editor because I can add CSS animations and animated gifs and music.

:D

Literature is dead
Movies are dying
Television is dead
Music is dying
Poetry is long dead
Theater is dead
Art is dead
It's over
Literature is dead
Movies are dying
Television is dead
Music is dying
Poetry is long dead
Theater is dead
Art is dead
It's over
Literature is dead
Movies are dying
Television is dead
Music is dying
Poetry is long dead
Theater is dead
Art is dead
It's over
The cultural eye is shuttered and boarded over
It's over

Are there any books exposing the nefarious influence of the so-called New Hollywood? I have the suspicion that it was one of the major brainrots that destroyed the boomer generation alongside rock music. Alternatively just books about New Hollywood

Hey everyone.

I don't usually lurk on /lit/, but I've written a book and plan to do a promotional run before its release. I need music for the trailers. Does anyone know where I can find a good source for it?

>The characteristic of the great compositions of Beethoven is that they are actual poems: that in them it is sought to bring a real subject to representation. The stumbling-block in the way of their comprehension lies in the difficult task of finding with certainty the subject represented. Beethoven was completely possessed by a subject: his most pregnant tone-pictures are indebted almost solely to the individuality of the subject with which he was filled; in consciousness of this, it appeared to him superfluous to denote his subject otherwise than in the tone-picture itself. Just as our word-poets really address themselves only to other word-poets, so did Beethoven in this unconsciously address himself only to the tone-poets.
- Wagner

>The only lasting & authentic passages of the Ring are the epic ones in which text or music narrate. And therefore the most impressive words of the Ring are the stage directions.
- Wittgenstein

Following Wittgenstein's recognition of Wagner's immense talent for poetic, epical description, the explanatory programmes for Beethoven's symphonies immediately become a point of interest. As Wagner's understanding of Beethoven's symphonies was groundbreaking for its era and set the standard for generations of conductors and musicologists. And even more so would Beethoven's Third Symphony benefit from this, a work which Wagner explicitly describes as beyond the comprehension of the 'uninitiated', and therefore requiring a guide such as his programmes hope to offer. Music here becomes literature. In full is his programme for Beethoven's third symphony:

Do you listen to music while you read?

My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
Coral is far more red than her lips' red;
If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
I have seen roses damasked, red and white,
But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
And in some perfumes is there more delight
Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
That music hath a far more pleasing sound;
I grant I never saw a goddess go;
My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground.
And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare
As any she belied with false compare.

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT DIVINATION

This is week 6 of your "Meditations on the Tarot" (MOTT) book club
The subject for this week is: THE EMPRESS (pages 53 to 73)
If you haven't read it, you can do it now.

Next Saturday (June the 1st, 2024) the Arcana due is THE EMPEROR (1st week)
but you will be, of course, welcome to post any insights, notes, questions regarding the previously read materials.

1. I packed MOTT & books most relevant to it into a convenient 184MB archive
link: https://files.catbox.moe/0ubl85.zip
There is also two auxiliary archives:
2. Holy Texts (Catholic study Bible + Tanakh w/ Hebrew-English parallel text 163MB)
link: https://files.catbox.moe/8j0iyi.zip
3. Tarot related (histoical, occult, and professional investigations 187MB)
link: https://files.catbox.moe/3tjyjx.zip

>Good podcasts related to MOTT:
https://podtail.com/es/podcast/the-christian-mysticism-podcast/
https://shwep.net/podcast/ (is LGBT, but abstains 99.95% of the time)
>Good music to listen while reading MOTT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lS_Y-aNJwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2Clq0rDR-w

>Note:
Additional books are only to be discussed if relevant to the current (or previous) MOTT chapter we are discussing.

>yeah bro life is a meaningless empty black void with no purpose but you can like give it purpose if you’re good at music or painting or something
I haven’t read Nietzsche, but this isn’t an accurate summation of his philosophy, is it? I see this screenshot a lot and it turns me off him

>The characteristic of the great compositions of Beethoven is that they are actual poems: that in them it is sought to bring a real subject to representation. The stumbling-block in the way of their comprehension lies in the difficult task of finding with certainty the subject represented. Beethoven was completely possessed by a subject: his most pregnant tone-pictures are indebted almost solely to the individuality of the subject with which he was filled; in consciousness of this, it appeared to him superfluous to denote his subject otherwise than in the tone-picture itself. Just as our word-poets really address themselves only to other word-poets, so did Beethoven in this unconsciously address himself only to the tone-poets.
- Wagner

>The only lasting & authentic passages of the Ring are the epic ones in which text or music narrate. And therefore the most impressive words of the Ring are the stage directions.
- Wittgenstein

Following Wittgenstein's recognition of Wagner's immense talent for poetic, epical description, the explanatory programmes for Beethoven's symphonies immediately become a point of interest. As Wagner's understanding of Beethoven's symphonies was groundbreaking for its era and set the standard for generations of conductors and musicologists. And even more so would Beethoven's Third Symphony benefit from this, a work which Wagner explicitly describes as beyond the comprehension of the 'uninitiated', and therefore requiring a guide such as his programmes hope to offer. Music here becomes literature. In full is his programme for Beethoven's third symphony:

Music is the lowest form of art. It is the art of the lowest common denominator, the art form that takes no effort to appreciate, it is meant to be consumed. Even videogames, whether you consider them slop or art, take a certain degree of dedication and cognitive ability to complete, not to mention the level of talent and patience necessary to make one. Albums or even an old symphony can be listened to in an hour. You don't engage with the work in the same way as a film or book, the notes carry you through the emotions you're meant to feel. You have no agency, no input, no critical thinking.

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT DIVINATION

This is week 5 of your "Meditations on the Tarot" (MOTT) book club
The subject for this week is: THE EMPRESS (pages 53 to 73)
If you haven't read it, you can do it now.

Next Saturday (May the 25th, 2024) the Arcana due is THE EMPRESS (2nd week)
but you will be, of course, welcome to post any insights, notes, questions regarding the previously read materials.

1. I packed MOTT & books most relevant to it into a convenient 184MB archive
link: https://files.catbox.moe/0ubl85.zip
There is also two auxiliary archives:
2. Holy Texts (Catholic study Bible + Tanakh w/ Hebrew-English parallel text 163MB)
link: https://files.catbox.moe/8j0iyi.zip
3. Tarot related (histoical, occult, and professional investigations 187MB)
link: https://files.catbox.moe/3tjyjx.zip

>Good podcasts related to MOTT:
https://podtail.com/es/podcast/the-christian-mysticism-podcast/
https://shwep.net/podcast/ (is LGBT, but abstains 99.95% of the time)
>Good music to listen while reading MOTT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lS_Y-aNJwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2Clq0rDR-w

>Note:
Additional books are only to be discussed if relevant to the current (or previous) MOTT chapter we are discussing.

>be me
>late 20s
>loser
>get back into reading for the summer
>reminded that everyone I used to know is either getting their PhD or thriving in a friend group or family
>im just here getting back into reading and trying to write music

It gets to me sometimes

1/2

Given 4chan is controlled opposition, just like Twatter, this topic will most likely be deleted like many others. This topic is not off-topic because I am basing it on anti-modernist writers like Pentti Linkola, Ludwig Klages, Heidegger, and Oswald Spengler. The tl;dr version is that the white race is too Faustian for its own good. Spengler predicted much of this in Man and Technics, but unlike Spengler, I have no attachments to the white race and am therefore harsher in my judgments:

>Spengler predicted that industrialisation would lead to serious environmental problems and that countless species would become extinct. He also predicted that labour from Third World countries would increasingly outcompete Western workers by doing the same work for much lower wages, and that industrial production would therefore move to other parts of the world, such as East Asia, India, and South America. According to Spengler, technology has not only made it possible for man to harness the forces of nature; it has also alienated him from nature. Modern technology now dominates our culture instead of that which is natural and organic. After having made himself the master of nature, man has himself become technology’s slave. ‘The victor, crashed, is dragged to death by the team’, Spengler summarises...

The white race is garbage, creating and perpetuating a large-scale interconnected industrial system that creates the very complications it claims it can solve. Since this board is full of white supremacist types, let me explain that white Christcucks have turned Original Sin into a reality with industrialization and their logocentric beliefs in "muh progress". Even if you're anti-Christian, the damage is already done and too much of your culture, from cathedrals to music, is influenced by Christcuckery, which thereby infects your mentalities sometimes in imperceptible ways. Secular liberalism is likewise an offshoot of Christianity, placing values of "progress" above relative coexistence and harmony with nature. Christcuckery contains within it the latent seeds that are the most anti-life and erosive to biodiversity because it makes man see himself as "over and above nature" as its stewards, which leads to treating it as a "standing reserve" and increasing technological complexity to better use it to serve ego, culminating in 'enframing' as Heidegger discusses. Moreover, here is a quote from Ludwig Klages (pbuh) who also points this out:

CONTINUED...

If you had to choose between tennis and playing the piano as a hobby outside of college/work then which one would you choose?
Gym, running and cooking are already given as "supporting activities".
pros of tennis:
>can meet people
>tons of qts
>fun
pros of piano
>insane brain gains
>classical music is based
>is fun

Nobody ever talks about how Bloom blames rock and roll music for ruining philosophy students because it is too "sexy." What a fucking weirdo.

Also, the part about "rational loyalty" is downright disgusting. There is nothing rational about loyalty because you can't serve two masters. What's next? Rational grace? Lmao.

This is your mind on spiritual Judaism.