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Do you love your life, /jp/?

I'm always seeing these NEET threads and people seem so depressed, but I don't really understand why. I've been a hikki for about five years now. I'm not some weekend hikki that goes to college and has friends. I've been an actual shut-in for five years, I have no friends, not even online, and I love it.

It's such a perfect life. I don't understand how some of you are depressed. I mean, you have the internet and that gives you access to literally anything you could ever want to learn. You could be programming, learning languages, learning instruments, playing video games, listening to music, lucid dreaming, whatever you want to do.

If you have an internet connection and a computer then your options for fun are limitless and yet you seem so depressed? Why?

>> No.8881909

Suffering makes great men greater. It is the only way we can change who we are, for better or worse. Christianity is strong because it embraces suffering. It is truly our greatest gift from God.

>> No.8881910

Shut the fuck up. You're not an expert and you haven't cracked it.

Suck my melancholic dick, cuntfucker.

>> No.8881912

A lot of hikkis/NEETs have the looming fact that it won't last eating at them. Do you not have that?

>> No.8881915

5 years? Fucking casual.

>> No.8881921

Same situation as you for around the same time and I couldn't be any happier. I do get the occasional bout of depression where I don't feel like doing anything, but that always goes away after a week or two.

>> No.8881933

>>8881912

>Do you not have that?

I don't see why I would. It's like being bothered by knowing that you're going to die. It's going to happen, no sense in getting upset about it so you might as well enjoy life while you still have it.

There's lots of ways to make money online too. Don't really have to go outside and get a job if you don't want to. As long as you have the freetime to learn a few skills then you can freelance online and make enough money to support a modest lifestyle in a small apartment.

>> No.8881934

My intermittent depression is unrelated to my NEETness.
Being a hikki is what keeps life worth living.

>> No.8881937

>If you have an internet connection and a computer then your options for fun are limitless and yet you seem so depressed? Why?
My options for fun are limitless and even greater than yours because in addition to internet, I can actually go outside.
My fucking problem is that I don't want to do those things. Nothing about those "limitless options" really appeals to me.
In a word, no matter what I do, I don't feel good.
It's BECAUSE of that that I'm a NEET.

>> No.8881945

>>8881937
Are you me?

>> No.8881953

>If you have an internet connection and a computer then your options for fun are limitless and yet you seem so depressed? Why?
Substitute of real life, not everyone can adapt.

>> No.8881954

No, I don't. I've been hiki for 3.5 years, and now I'm starting to exercise a little and maybe I will look for work next month.

>> No.8881955

>No sex
>No human contact
>No prospects
>No money
I hate my life.

>> No.8881960

>>8881955
I don't see what the problem is.

>> No.8881963

>>8881937

>In a word, no matter what I do, I don't feel good.

Have you tried pills? It's probably just a chemical imbalance. I feel the same exact way when I'm coming down from amphetamines and my brain has stopped producing dopamine.

>> No.8881965

>>8881955
You know, lists existed before greentext.

>> No.8881969

>>8881960
I'm not autistic, so human contact is a big part of my happiness.

>> No.8881971

Looks like we're in for another drug addict hijack.

>> No.8881974

I was born depressed.

>> No.8881979

>>8881963
Not that guy but I've tried two so far, neither work and they're expensive as fuck and not covered by my insurance. Fucking cocksuckers.

>> No.8881985 [DELETED] 

You are not a hikki. The fact that you are on here talking to us makes you better than a hikikimori.

Have some respect for yourself.

>> No.8881988

>>8881985
Get a load of this loser.

>> No.8881991

You are not a hikki. The fact that you are on here talking to us makes you better than a hikikomori.

Have some respect for yourself.

>> No.8881996

>>8881991
You sure this time, buttface?

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>>8881996
Hey, I made a typo, nerd. You wanna throw down or something? Because I'll throw down.

>> No.8882006

>>8881969

Then go outside and make some friends. It's not hard, normalfriend.

Have anxiety? Get a prescription for benzos or some other anxiety medication. Problem solved and you don't even have to face your fears and deal with discomfort.

It's a simple problem. You know what you want, you know that it would make you happy, and you know how to obtain it, and yet you're not doing it. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

>> No.8882011

>>8882004
You gotta think of that shit ahead of time, yo!

>> No.8882014

>>8881996
don't call him a buttface, you dick monger platypus rpaist :(

>> No.8882023

>>8881991
Shut up.

>> No.8882024

>>8881894
If you weren't babied by your parents, you would understand that there is nothing "perfect" about fear of starvation, losing your apartment or anything like that. Sure, you're a NEET, but you're also a spoiled child. Don't ignore that fact when thinking of your NEET status symbol so highly.

>> No.8882031
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8882031

I'm a loser going to a shitty technical school, with no job, no friends, no money in the family.
Something that helped me was working out. Try it anons. i don't mean doing a million pushups and situp garbage, I mean actually working out by doing strength training. It's a strange feeling while, and for a long time after you're done. Whenever it's my workout day and it's later in the day, I get strange urges and try to lift random stuff in my parents house. Squatting a countertop till I hear a creak, deadlifting the couch with one arm, doing pullups on the doorframes...
Then it's time to head to the 24 hour gym, all to myself. I go to the cozy power cage in the corner and start my workout. Don't need a spotter in the cage, and even if there are people around, that initial nervousness goes away once all I can think about is that weight I need to lift. It's bliss.

>> No.8882032

>>8881979

What medications did they put you on?

In my experience it seems like doctors usually start you off with most likely useless shit that has very few side effects and no addiction potential on the off chance that it might actually work for you. Takes a bit of time before they pull out the big guns and give you something that will actually work.

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>>8882024
Why are you so jealous and angry? Take it easy or get the fuck out, punk.

>> No.8882034

>>8882031
Fuck off with your lifting fad.

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>>8882023
You shut up!

>> No.8882042

I started to take pill for my depression. Do you guys think my doc will give me better ones if I say they work so-so? They kinda do.

>> No.8882043

>>8881912
I'm extremely good at ignoring things that I don't want to think about. In fact, I'm pushing that realization further and further to the back of mind mind as I type this. All better now!

>> No.8882045

There have always been two types of NEET. One seems genuinely happy and content living a life with a dim future and minimal social interactions.

The other is pretty much the opposite in that they long first and foremost for social interaction. Most everything in their life is governed by their desire for interaction. Following that they would like a promising future, which usually means worrying about enteting schooling or training of some sort eventually in the future. Finally, they're discontent with the labels society has put on them and would like to change their lives for the "better".

Disgusting people, that second group. They really are the lowest of the low.

>> No.8882047

>>8882031
Haha
I know that feeling. I always feel really manly on lift days, my beard grows faster and I also get that urge to just lift random objects.

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>>8882034
Fad? Well I've been at it for almost a year now, but that feeling you get will probably fade over time too I guess. I burned myself out videogames in highschool, and most music the past two years as well.
Once I find something I like, I tunnel-vision until all the joy possible has been sucked out of it. I hope hope hope that does not happen to masturbation too.

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>>8882034
I do calisthenics and cardio and would like to say that you're a cunt.

>> No.8882058
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8882058

Am I happy with my life?

Who is happy with his life? Nobody is destined to live a happy life, /jp/. Do you think being a normalfag makes you happy? Of course not. Being a so called "neet" does? Sure it's not. What about being rich, famous and handsome? Probably even worse.

You have to find your own happines and fight for it.

>> No.8882062

>>8882045
The second group is what /jp/ primarily consists of now.
A lot of them seem to try and pretend to be a part of the first group for some unknown reason though.

>> No.8882063

>>8882042

If they kind of work then you probably just need a dosage increase. If that doesn't help then I'm sure your doctor will prescribe you something else.

Doctors are nice and it's fun to try new medicine. I love doctors, it's their job to give you mind altering substances that improve your life and make you happy. They don't just tell you to fuck off if the pills didn't work, if they did then they would be losing money. They're like modern day wizards, so take full advantage of them.

>> No.8882064

>>8882033
Proves my point. NEETs are spineless piece of shit. I'm starting to think you're not a NEET either. Just a little diaper wetting baby.

>> No.8882065

Even back in in high school I had pretty high schizoid tendencies, so I have no problem with not seeing people.

>> No.8882070

>>8882064
>Just a little diaper wetting baby
HOT

>> No.8882073

>>8882064
So normal it hurts.

Please be an internet tough guy elsewhere.

You impress no one.

>> No.8882076

>>8882031
I used to go to the gym but there wasn't any 24 hour gym and I eventually got tired of the shitloads of people around me. Also I got hit by a pretty depression that time and dropped out.

Now I'm doing Convict Conditioning at my apartment and shit is fine.

>> No.8882078

>>8882024

>you would understand that there is nothing "perfect" about fear of starvation, losing your apartment or anything like that.

So why aren't you working towards goals that will make you money? You don't have to leave your house. Depression is so pointless, it accomplishes nothing.

Learn to program and freelance. Plenty of opportunities online and you can make enough to comfortably live in your apartment. Won't even have to leave the house.

There's just nothing productive about self-pity. If you have a problem then take the steps required to fix it.

>> No.8882083

>>8882045
My sole reason for ever having left my bedroom is money although I am luckily earning a small amount of money from home.

A friend of mine, who I last saw like a year ago by the way, recently left his NEET ways behind and is all social and girlfriend-having these days. He seems to think that him and I are alike and, although this is true in terms of hobbies and so on, I think the main difference between us is that he had social anxiety, which he has now overcome, while I'm just a misanthrope.

Still not hikikomori though. I just enjoy my own company.

>> No.8882086

>>8882063
Alright, that's pretty much what I thought. Thanks.

>> No.8882098

>>8882034
http://youtu.be/V1zFeHJzS5E

You know, most people who take this "fad", are actually very insecure and feel worthless, and that's the only thing they can find to make themselves feel better.
Whether it be chronic shyness or some other issue, it's a simple way to feel you have "improved" yourself, without ever interacting with others like entering a career or some other place where you could reenforce sense of worth that has been imparted into you since childhood.

>> No.8882099

>>8882042
I could never go in to take a personality or depression test for a doctor because I feel like they would arrest me or put down mentally ill on my profile.

>> No.8882101

>>8882078
Working? Holding jobs, making contacts, having obligations?

These are all things I'd rather just avoid.
The alternative is better anyway.

>> No.8882103

>>8882045
I'm in a weird place in between those groups.

Part of me enjoys doing nothing but sitting around and enjoying myself while the other part wishes I gave enough of a damn to turn my life around. I can clearly see that this lifestyle can't lead to anything good but I can't really find it in me to care because I'm far too busy enjoying myself.

My will to enjoy myself consumes any fucks that I give or plan to give so here I am enjoying a wonderful afternoon of 4chan and video games!

Also I suspect that my conscience is a bloated 2D version of my head.

>> No.8882109

No money to continue that life right? How do you make enough money without leaving the house to have what you want delivered to you?

>> No.8882110

I love my life to a certain degree, but I still experience a bit of loneliness.

It's strange form of loneliness that contradicts itself though. I want some kind of companionship, but at the same time I don't. I've had friends in past, even had a few opportunities to get a girlfriend, but it has always been so stressful and exhausting that I just want to leave them all and go back inside, which is what I do.

So I'm lonely and that makes me a little sad, but anything I could do to make me less lonely would make me feel miserable. It's like solving one problem in exchange for five new problems.

>> No.8882112

>>8881894
>Do you love your life, /jp/?

It's not perfect. Mainly I really wish I didn't have to worry about the small amount of university I have to deal with. I pick classes that I can stay inside and just read the books for (only attending exams), but even with that I still have to study, and it's very tiring to even study a chapter a day after a while.

But I'm pretty content with it. Lately I've been realizing more and more that I really have no regrets. I tried to get a job, I tried to go to university (still there, even, not that I'm likely to complete it) and do all of that, even though I really don't care and have never wanted to work. I really didn't want to get a job, but I tried earnestly anyway, and failed completely. I only really went to university because it would let me get into residence and away from my parents, and now I can barely handle two courses I don't even have to attend. I used to have a group of normal friends, so on and so forth.

I've tried all the normal things, given them as much effort as I'm going to be able to give. I don't care if it wasn't enough for the normals, I have no regrets. I've made peace with it. All there's left is to live my life and enjoy what I can do with it.

>> No.8882118

>>8882109
Autism bucks.
If someone is legitimately a hikki, just speaking with them would be enough to prove you're not fit for work.

>> No.8882120

>>8882073
You just need to stop being so angry. If you truly were a NEET without a care in the world, you wouldn't be frantically responding to every comment I write. Your desperate attempts at insults are really pathetic, but quite fitting for the little child that you are.

In fact, you probably won't even leave this comment unresponded to. Defend your status some more, you scene kid NEET piece of shit. I'm waiting for another snappy comment with a meme and/or an accompanying reaction image as a desperate attempt to somehow cover up how frustrated you are that someone is taking stabs at your NEET status over the internet. Want to prove me wrong, child? I'm waiting. Don't disappoint me, kid.

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Fuck all of you. I'm an actual hikikomori and you guys are just wannabe's. I'm sick of seeing threads where faggots who go to school and shit claim to be shut-ins just because they spend a lot of time on the internet. If you really are a hikikomori then shut the fuck up and stop seeking recognition.

>> No.8882122

i know my situation won't last. my parents aren't going to support me forever. it's the creeping inevitable that makes it hard for me to enjoy myself any more. it was easier a few years ago to put it out of mind, but the countdown is nearing its end, and at 0 i'm faced with a decision between 2 unpleasant things. do i kill myself or do i face the world?

>> No.8882124

>>8882099
I didn't go for a long long time (hate doctors). But it got pretty bad, so I just took heart one day. It was all harmless and friendly of course. Just said I don't feel good and so on. There was no test. Got some pills prescribed, that's it. You should just get it over with if you're depressed.

>> No.8882125

>>8882101

>Holding jobs, making contacts, having obligations?

Of course not. That's the whole point of online work.

It's more like: Make a shitty phone game, retards buy it, now I have rent money.

It requires no socialization, no obligations, and it's not even a job. It's just a way to make money while avoiding the social aspects that are so unappealing in regular jobs.

>> No.8882126

>>8882120
Honestly, you're trying to hard. Both of you shut up.

>> No.8882127

>>8882121
Nobody said anything about school. Calm down.

>> No.8882128

>>8882121
Take it easy, nerd.
Being hikki is not a status symbol nor a secret club.

>> No.8882129

>>8882032
Selexa and pristiq (don't know the chemical names)

probably gonna get hooked up on tranquilizers next, I heard those are dope(amine)

>> No.8882133

>>8882125
It's too much like work for me. Don't get me wrong though, I can see where you're coming from.

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>>8882078
>Depression is so pointless, it accomplishes nothing.

Depression isn't a choice, you moron. I don't just mean special-snowflake-self-diagnostic-depression, but clinical depression or crippling social disorders like autism. It's not just something you can snap out of with an 'ah, what was I thinking?!' and be on your way. Clearly, however, you've been mollycoddled and led to believe you're somehow a self-determining adult, that everything you've ever done has been down to your own skill and tenacity and that, because life has been handed to you on a plate, life must be this simple for everyone.

>> No.8882142

A lifetime of dodging responsibilities and and all things stressful has made me too good at it for my own good.

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>>8882121
Real hikikomori don't spend time on the internet.

>> No.8882145

>>8882143
I don't think you know what you're talking about.

>> No.8882147

>>8882126
Dropping "sage" in your email field but still posting with the same predictable tone won't make you blend in as another poster. But that's one of the good things about being anonymous, right? You can get told pretty hard, and just pretend like it never happened. Sorry for expecting any maturity from a child. Come one, one more snappy comeback, please.

>> No.8882151

>>8882147
Swing and a miss. Go to bed Anon.

>> No.8882153

I am depressed because I am not a neet. It is a sad life when you have to force yourself to wakeup everyday to go to work. No choice here,I live alone so I needed the cash. gonna quit in a few months though when I get enough money to take a long break before doing this shit again. I am jealous of you trueneet

>> No.8882154

This thread started shitty and managed to get even shittier.

>> No.8882155

>>8882129

Oh, those. Yeah, it's useless shit.

Do you feel emotionally sad or do you feel completely apathetic towards everything? If it's the second one then what they put you on probably isn't going to help. I never felt any improvement from SSRIs, but something like Wellbutrin is useful since it acts on your dopamine levels.

>> No.8882162

I can't remember the last time I was happy, but I also can't remember the last time I was sad or angry

I guess that's just retardation or something

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>>8882145
I'll grant that maybe some of the milder cases go online sometimes but they definitely don't have the energy to argue about whether they are one or not.

Hikikomori are the product of depression and overly permissive Japanese parents. The people here who think they're hikikomori probably read NHK ni Youkoso and came to the conclusion that they are the same. It's like self-proclaimed aspies who diagnose themselves after a few minutes on Wikipedia. It's kind of silly. I've left the house about as much as anyone else in this house over the past year but I don't use it as an excuse to give myself with a COOL Japanese label.

>> No.8882165

>>8882155
Apathetic. I guess that's my next best bet. Thanks bro I mean that, you're truly a nice guy.

>> No.8882167

>>8882151
At least try to post a comment where you don't dismiss the person you are replying to in every post. Sure, it makes you feel like you're right, but it also makes it quite obvious that you just can't stand being wrong.

>> No.8882171

>>8882164
>this house

This thread even. There is no one else in my house. (´・ω・`)

>> No.8882172

I've been happy ever since I started taking Mirtazapine. The stuff works like magic... for me at least.

>> No.8882173

>>8882164
Let's use "shut-in" instead then since you seem awfully offended over the other term.

>> No.8882174

>>8882167
Except I wasn't the guy you were responding to. But of course it's impossible for a passer-by to object to someone acting like a stupid child. And you don't even have the decency to pay attention to the thread when you expect an argument. Congratulations, you win the coveted "most delusional hallucination of the day" award. You've earned it, faggot.

>> No.8882175

>>8882164
My chair is buried like that, except it's offbrand vodka fifths and pissbottles instead of cheap beer or whatever that is.

Take care of your health /jp/

>> No.8882179

I wish I had been a bully in my school years. I want to be a bully so bad, it's so sexy. Making someone cry and shiver then making them feel safe in my arms.

>> No.8882182

>>8882174
Classic.

>> No.8882184

>>8882182
Fantastic, now that you've run out of accusations and general stupidity, we're done here.

>> No.8882185

>>8882179
It really is, I have some really sadistic thoughts and was a huge bully before I got to high school

>> No.8882186

>>8882140

Then take pills.

Either you're depressed because of something in your life (can't afford rent, etc) and that can easily be fixed by taking the necessary steps to fix the issue or you're clinically depressed and then you need medication.

I really don't understand why people with depression are so adverse to getting help. They just want to sit around and bitch all day. Let's have a big pity party for all the depressed people that don't even try to get help so they can circle jerk with each other about how miserable they all feel. It's worse than fat people. They both whine constantly about a fixable problem and never take any steps to fix it, but at least fat people actually have to do more than a take simple pill to fix their problem.

This isn't the 1800s. You actually have options for treating these problems. There are so many medications that could help you, but it seems like most people would rather just wallow in self-pity.

>> No.8882187

You still rely on 4chan for some sort of human interaction.

You would go mad otherwise.

Some people handle that differently.

>> No.8882189

>>8882186
I don't feel like I'm worth the cost of the pills, I don't bitch about the depression though.

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>>8882173
>shut-in

I'm one of those. I do think it's important to distinguish between that and hikikomori which is largely a Japanese cultural phenomenon so yeah.

Anyway, I think of people like us as being a bit like modern day hermits or something. It's more of a choice for whatever reason than something I do because of crushing depression.

>> No.8882194

>>8882186
The problem with many of these people is that it's hard to get through that clinical depression enough to make people start with the pills. I feel great now that I'm on effexor, but I held onto the prescription for months wondering what the point was, questioning why I wasn't strong enough to overcome this without medication, etc. In addition, pills can regulate your moods and stuff but for people who are truly alone and don't have access to counseling or even someone to talk to once a month about how things are doing, they can really only go so far.

>> No.8882211

>>8882189

>I don't feel like I'm worth the cost of the pills

That's the magic of the pills though. You won't feel this way once they start working.

For example, look at speed. Before you take it you just feel normal, then you take it and all of the sudden you feel on top of the world, you feel confident, you look in the mirror and think you're the hottest guy on the planet, and you feel like you could beat the shit out of a bear. The pills eventually wear off, your exhausted brain stops producing the proper amount of chemicals, and now you're suicidal and depressed, nothing in the entire world has any pleasure in it, you look in the mirror and you hate yourself, and you generally feel like death.

The point of all this is that you can't trust your mind. Your opinion on everything can change within an hour based on fluctuations in your chemical levels. Your depression addled brain gives you these self-defeating thoughts, but that's all they are. Ignore the thoughts, take the pills, and you won't feel this way in a few days.

>> No.8882212

>>8881963
Fuck "Chemical imbalances". I have tried a lot of pills. Yes, they really helped me in many ways.
But pills only treat the symptoms, and only a part of them. That's how they're supposed to work in reality, isn't it?
Yes, now I can actually get out of bed by myself. I can wake up before noon without half of my brain shutting down and not remembering what I did. I'm not going to say that's not an improvement.
But the horrifying fact that _nothing_ I do gives me _any_ true positive emotion is ever present. Maybe if I keep a regular sleep cycle I feel less like shit. But life is supposed to be ups and downs, even if for some there are many more downs than ups. Being _permenently_ in the negative is nothing short of torture.
Bah, I'm just rambling.

>> No.8882219

shut in, hikikomori, hermit, it's all the same thing. i can't handle the pressure of responsibilities placed on me in order to become a functioning member of society so i hide away from it. across the ocean in japan there are a million people who feel the same way. it isn't a japanese cultural phenomenon. it's a problem that is bound to spring up in any first world nation with a high standard of living.

>> No.8882225

>>8882212
Smoke some weed maybe.

>> No.8882244

>>8882112
Are you me?

Main difference between us is that I tolerate the part about having a job, since it helps me have money for my hobbies, and it keeps my parents happy. Like you I see university as a huge burden, and don't think I'll be finishing it. I hate every aspect of it, especially the large crowds of people that you're forced to be around constantly. I suppose it's my fault though, for being unambitious and yet signing up for it anyway.

>> No.8882245

>>8882212

>true positive emotion

There's no such thing as a true positive emotion though. You don't have fake emotions and real emotions, it's really just chemicals. Life is just too short to care about whether it's drug induced or not. It really doesn't matter, an emotion is an emotion.

Imagine if you had no legs. This is disadvantage and now you can't do a lot of things, but someone gives you robot legs and now you can walk and do everything a normal person can do. There's no problem here, his ability to walk is just as real as anyone else's. You have a chemical disadvantage and you need some pills to even you out, but that doesn't mean it's not real. The guy with the robot legs is walking and the pills make you happy. How you get to that point is irrelevant, it's the end result (happiness and mood stability) that matters.

>> No.8882249

>>8882225
I don't know anybody so I wouldn't know how to get it, and if I did get some, I'd be hooked up to that shit permanently.
But I actually think that would help, yes.

>> No.8882254

Ones like me and OP are people who became NEETs because we wanted to be.

The ones who make depression threads are ones that became NEETs because they were social rejects who couldn't be anything else. Disgusting people who couldn't get over their teenage depression phase.

>> No.8882258

>>8882225
Back to >>>/b/

Inhaling burnt plant matter won't fix anything.

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>>8882254
but bu anon-kun...t they said wikipedia did diagnose them with many diseases :(

>> No.8882263

>>8882258
It will when it has chemicals and shit that fuck with your head.

>> No.8882271

>>8882254
I have to agree, even if you do come off as TRUNEET as hell.

>> No.8882275

>>8882249

What medications are you taking? If weed would help then there must be some legal prescription medication that will help too. Whatever you're on right now might be helping a bit, but if you still feel no happiness at all then you just need to try a different one.

I spent about two years going through different depression and anxiety medications until I finally found one that worked. It's not an easy process and it's mostly trial and error, but it's far from hopeless. There's so many different pills out there, you just have be a guinea pig for a bit as your doctor sifts through it with you.

>> No.8882281

>>8882258
WOW dude you sound like a llvl 99 nerdord. I know you've never smoked weed, so how can you have any idea as to how it would effect you? I'm not saying 420 smokeweederrday, I'm just saying quit being such a close minded autist that hates everything foreign to them. Smoking really helped with my depression and I know I'm not the only one.

>> No.8882283

Does anyone here have real, diagnosed, autism?

>> No.8882284

The drug addicts have come!

Time to take the thread with your crusade now!

>> No.8882285

I'm not a NEET or a hikki. People would be annoyed as HELL if I were to buy a one way ticket to Gensokyo, but living is suffering. For now there is no other choice but to march forward whiled trapped in a disgusting body I never wanted.

>> No.8882289

>>8882245
That's actually not what I meant by 'true', Anon.
If I had access to feel-good drugs, be it legal or illegal ones, I wouldn't look back.
But pills do not make me feel good. I can wake up and do things, but I still feel like shit.
I said 'true positive emotions' because every fucking person tells me I should think that if I feel less bad than before, that's positive, and I got used to that.
But when once in a blue moon I get a few tenths of a second of healthy synapse (I'm not even exaggerating, its like for an instant I get my mind/senses back), I understand that a true, genuine 'positive' emotion (doesn't matter if it's natural of induced by drugs), like the ones I got when I was a child, or the ones almost every single person gets every day for small things like eating or breathing, is LIGHT YEARS away from "feeling a bit less like shit", which is the best I have achieved.

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>>8882254
The sad thing is I reverted into a teenage emo phase after being a pretty cool guy all through my teens.

Now I'm 23 and read teenage drama manga like a faggot. I also have no motivation to do anything because I got tired of med school and dropped out with no backup plan.

>> No.8882297

>>8882244
>especially the large crowds of people that you're forced to be around constantly.

Reminds me of when I would go to class, try to pick the most secluded corner and hope no one would sit next to me. And then there's the group work. I had a class this year where 40% of your final grade was based on group work. I'm sure you can guess what happened there.

I don't like being around people. I don't have social anxiety, but when I hear someone coming into the same room as I'm in, my first instinct is to duck into another room so they don't see me, so on and so forth. This is minor compared to the amount of effort things like university and work require you to put in, though. I have absolutely no achievement motivation. I could never really tolerate a job.

But hey, at least you can say you gave it an effort, right?

I'd apologize for my rambling blog posts, but frankly I like reading these kind of things myself..

>> No.8882299

>>8882281
But I have tried it, so I know it's shit.

It only amplifies your paranoia and worries about the future.

If you're looking for something to clear you of worries, this is not it.

>> No.8882305

>>8882284
You are bound to fall under one of two categories:

A. You were home schooled and/or incredibly sheltered
B. You are autistic.

A couple people causally mentioning that they take some prescriptions or sometimes smoke pot =/= drug addicts

>> No.8882306

>>8882299
You know what that sounds like? That it works differently for different people.

>> No.8882309

>>8882295
Ouch, med school.

I hope you weren't raped by the debt/exhorbitant costs.

You really have to have a certain mindset to basically sacrifice 12 years of your life to studying something, then sacrificing all free time of your own after you graduate.

>> No.8882311

>>8882305
There's no time now champion!

You must enlighten the mindless masses!

>> No.8882312

>>8882305
you will literally die of weed smoke tomorrow alogn w/ 100s of others. this hapens every year but govrnment won't report it

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NEET 4 LIFE XD

>> No.8882320

Fuck off weed retards

>>>/b/

>> No.8882322

I'm depressed because I work 40 hours a week at a job I hate and it's going nowhere and my mom won't quit nagging at me to move out.

>> No.8882324

>>8882289

How many medications have you tried? If you just feel less like shit then that's definitely not good enough. I'd ditch that pill and get my doctor to prescribe me a new one.

Even if none of those work at all though, there's always electroconvulsive therapy. My uncle had the most severe depression I've ever seen, practically catatonic at some points, no pills ever worked at all, but that worked great and he was happy after that.

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>>8882320
you're mom is a retard....

>> No.8882327

>>8882275
At the moment I'm taking Agomelatine. It actually brought back the "sleepy" feeling, it had been years since I last went to sleep being tired/sleepy.
One year and eight months since my first prescription.

>> No.8882329

I'd rather kill myself than to take pills for depression.

>> No.8882330

>>8882329
I'd rather live depressed than take pills.

>> No.8882332

>>8882329
Why not kill yourself taking pills for depression?

>> No.8882335

>>8882330
This. But I'm sure the junkies will chew your head off for saying that.

>> No.8882336

>>8882335
Even if there were legitimate drug addicts on /jp/ I don't think they would care.

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>>8882249
I smoked weed a couple times, it's nothing amazing. Everything went blurry and shitty adult swim shows were slightly funnier, but that's about it.

It's not addictive in the least, I haven't touched the stuff in years and have no desire to. Alcohol, on the other hand, is much worse and I refuse to touch that shit.

>> No.8882341

I'm was in exactly the same situation as OP until late '11, still am atleast a weekend hikki, but what really bothered me about my existence wasn't lack of social bondings or whatever, but that I couldn't consume entertainment media as fast as I wished (due to my backlog and of course tons of free time). I watch maybe one movie per day, or three episodes of anime. Don't get me started on manga, books or VN. I can finish maybe one of those a month.
I just get too bored or nihilistic too fast.

>> No.8882343

>>8882337
Alcohol burns on the way down.

Not very pleasant at all.

>> No.8882346

>>8882324
I direct you to
>>8882327
I've been through at least three meds... probably more, I can't remember. The first was Venlafaxine.

I know about shock therapy. But general anesthesia... needles... and it does fuck with your memory. Honestly, I'm scared of trying that.
Of course, it may be the same case as delaying the visit to the dentist until all your mouth is rotten, but... I'm scared as fuck from everything hospital-related.

>> No.8882351

>>8882295
Yeah, I realized the sacrifice isn't worth it financially since doctors just get fucked over by insurance companies and lawyers.

If you want money you have to get in the businesses that control it rather than those at the mercy of it.

>> No.8882354

>>8882337
I think I'm becoming addicted to alcohol.
It's getting difficulty to get through the day without it.

>> No.8882356

>>8882354
Likewise, but I saw it coming a mile away and let it happen anyway.

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>>8882337
>not drinking alchol

Why do you insist on abandoning your old friend, anon?

>> No.8882362

>>8882354
A rule of thumb is that you're not an alcoholic if you don't drink alone.

I learned that from Mad Men.

>> No.8882365

>>8882358
Because it killed my mom from cirrhosis at the age of 49.

I'm scared shitless of the stuff.

>> No.8882367

>>8882362
Drinking around other people or being around drunk people is absolutely terrible.

Avoid at all costs.

>> No.8882369

>>8882346

>I know about shock therapy. But general anesthesia... needles... and it does fuck with your memory.

It might be worth it though. If you can't find any medication that helps you then it's definitely the way to you.

I mean, what kind of life is a life where you're incapable of feeling any happiness? I'd rather die than live like that. Some slight memory loss and needles isn't too big of a price to pay for fixing that.

>> No.8882373

I would love it if I had a more stable NEEThood that wasn't prone to disappear soon. I wish I got government money for being a retard but I don't know how. That, and my parents are probably gonna get tired of me soon.

Aww.

>> No.8882374

>>8882362
I pretty much always drink alone, the only exceptions being when I drink with my father.

>>8882356
I saw it coming from the first day I touched alcohol , but I expected it to take a little longer.

>> No.8882376

>>8882369
I don't know about him, but it's easier to be miserable with knowledge than happy without.

>> No.8882381

I'm too scared to do ay drug, the hardest thing that I drink is cranberry juice.

>> No.8882384

>>8882356
>>8882374
Same, but I don't care. It makes life not only bearable, but fun as well.

>> No.8882388

There's nothing wrong with drinking a lot of alcohol unless you're a violent alcoholic or really mean and hurt people. If you're not hurting anyone or drinking lethal amounts I don't see what the big deal is. Seems stupid to attach a label with bad connotations like "alcoholic" to someone who harmlessly enjoys a relaxing beverage on a regular basis. Why are people so fucking judgmental.

>> No.8882395

>>8882388
It harms yourself on the long run. It also has bad connotations because alcoholics usually are people trying to escape from life.

I don't really care anyway. If anything, being labelled an alcoholic is an improvement over being labelled a depressed loser weeaboo.

>> No.8882398

>>8882373
This kind of thing makes me want to join the republican and cut the welfare program.

>> No.8882399

>Human shitstains arguing over who is the biggest shitstain, or who is a poser shitstain


You fucked up, and aren't doing what humans are supposed to do. Just die already.

>> No.8882402

>>8882399
Fuck what humans are supposed to do, you ignorant retarded shit. They're supposed to struggle, starve, fight, fuck and die. If that's what you want how about you jump off a fucking scyscraper you piece of shit.

>> No.8882403

>>8882399
>implying that there is any meaning in doing what humans are supposed to do

>> No.8882404

>>8882399
no you

>> No.8882409

>>8882402
>They're supposed to struggle, starve, fight, fuck and die.

They are supposed to do this for a cause. Something that betters themselves or their surroundings for their fellow humans.


Being a shitstain of a leech betters no one. Don't start making up some excuses about how you've "grown" through it.

>> No.8882410

>>8882409
I'm better than you, animal. Get over it or die miserable.

>> No.8882411

Convert to buddhism.e

>> No.8882413

>>8882409
>>8882399
If you are so mad about it, then come here and kill me you faggot.

>> No.8882417

>>8882395
Again it goes back to people being judgmental. Someone should be allowed to do whatever they want to themselves as long as it's not hurting anyone else. Besides, having everyone get on my back because of alcoholism and causing me hell isn't exactly motivation to avoid escapism. If anything all the hassle makes me want to just say fuck it and live in Paris where everyone's a drunk and nobody gives a fuck.

>> No.8882418

Nerd fight!

Hey! Hey everybody! Check it out! Nerd fight!

NERRRRRRRD FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

>> No.8882420

>>8882413
>>8882410
>Thinking your better than anyone
>Thinking it's worth killing anyone

You haven't realized that humans are humans, and are forever going to be exactly how they are. All you have to do is deal with it, get over it, and get on with your life. You faggots just hide from the world. Also, not the guy you're replying too.

>> No.8882421

Life is not that easy if you have to constantly lie to some fuckers just to get money for having a mental disorder.

>> No.8882422

>>8882420
Who are you quoting, animal?

>> No.8882425

>>8882420
Don't tell me how to live my life, nerd.

>> No.8882429

>>8882421
It's an absolute cakewalk if you actually have the disorder though.

>> No.8882433

>>8882420

If you wanna get technical, the grand "purpose" of all living things is simply to propagate their species. Mankind's capacity to choose to ignore nature's plan defines us. Also, we do have the ability to improve ourselves, both as individuals and as a species. It's called learning, maybe you've heard of it.

>> No.8882434

>>8882420
I'm a human, I'm going to act like a human and follow my human desires to pursue my happiness and avoid the things in life that make me unhappy. Deal with it, bub.

>> No.8882438

>>8882421
Seems better and easier than working 8 hours a day

>> No.8882440

>>8882409
Give me one good reason why I should give a shit about anyone else.

>> No.8882446

I just want to take it easy, but the world won't let me.

>> No.8882450

>>8882410
Then what are you?

This is a serious question, I want to know.

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>>8882446
There's a way out, friend.

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Not a NEET.

Up at 3AM finishing fucking Adobe Illustrator work for Uni. My eyes are killing me.

I hate my life, but by Tuesday I'll have 5 months of Summer to enjoy.

>> No.8882458

>>8882450
An angry autist who will die an angry, BITTER autist..

>> No.8882463

>>8882457
I will experience this joy on Tuesday as well.
Not for long because I am starting at least 6 online courses on coursera

>> No.8882468

>>8882455
I don't think I'm ready for Gensokyo.
I think the world is a neat place, but there are just so many people who make it their life's goal to make sure you can't take it easy. I just want to lay in bed and read, watch anime, or play some games, maybe go for a walk every once in a while. I just want to take it easy.

>> No.8882470

>>8882457
I'll sell you my soul for your vacation time.

>> No.8882476

Some people are just prone to whine about things.

>> No.8882479

>>8882470
The value of a /jp/sie's soul goes down in market value every time someone takes a shit. It floods a market with tangible items of 1:1 likeness to the /jp/sie soul.

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>>8882479
I don't know what you're saying so I'll just assume it's an insult.

>> No.8882487

>>8882420
>You haven't realized that humans are humans, and are forever going to be exactly how they are
You don't even fucking realize how you prove 'our' point. Humans were always lazy pieces of shit, always will be. If there was no need to work, almost no one would. NEETs are the modern day epitome of this. They aren't longtime NEET because they want, it's because they can, made possible with our surplus economy and welfare.

>> No.8882492

>Do you love your life

No, I want a woman but lack the self-esteem to acquire one.

Went to home depot the other day to get some stuff to mod my Grado headphones with. Cute girl employee asks me if I need help finding anything.

I did, of course, but couldn't even bear to look her in the eye. Interacting with pretty girls scares the shit out of me.

I said "no thank you" and quickly walked as fast as I could away from her so I could go find a dude to ask for help.

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>>8882470
Yeah it's pretty great. No doubt I'll waste my time off, though.

>> No.8882496

I'm transgender and I don't pass, so I stay inside all day.

>> No.8882509

>>8882496

I'm trans and I pass. I still stay inside all day. Fuck the world.

>> No.8882524

1000 years of progress so i can sit inside and watch cartoons all day. thank you humanity.

>> No.8882526

>>8882509
...pictures?

>> No.8882528

>>8882495
The only way to "waste time" is work. Working at something you hate and literally selling your time and pieces of your one and only life on this planet to greedy businesses or governments.

No no, doing things you enjoy doing is the only thing worth spending any time towards. You only have one life, the planet will not stop spinning if you stop being productive in society but you will die one day and that's it. So no, sir, you will not be wasting time.

>> No.8882538

>>8882528
These words are wise.

>> No.8882539

>>8882528
What if you work to get money so you can pay to have and do the things you enjoy?

>> No.8882549

>>8882539

exactly. you do what you have to do so you can do what you want to do.

>> No.8882553

>>8882526

Yes. Make the trans person feel fetishized for being trans rather than simply being their chosen gender. That totally won't make them more depressed.

Dumbass.

>> No.8882554

>>8882549
Well if you take it that way, what kind of work would be considered a waste? I don't think anyone likes being homeless and not eating. Sometimes you just have to work, even if it isn't fun.

Or you could live with your parents. That would work too.

>> No.8882558

>>8882528
If sitting on your ass doing nothing is all you want out of life, go ahead. Meanwhile, I'll be over here doing something I love and getting paid for it.Glorious non-NEET master race

>> No.8882561

>>8882509
>>8882526
samefag

Cut that shit out

>> No.8882563

>>8882420
*you're

I wouldn't expect internet tough guys like you to be intelligent enough to spell properly, let alone understand the appeal of the NEET lifestyle.

Go back to your Fox news and facebook.

>> No.8882564

>>8882524
It's laughable when you see it like that.
And more like "four billion years of evolution".

>> No.8882566

>>8882553

I'd rather be someone's fetish than have them want to kill me just because I didn't want to be a dude anymore.

>> No.8882569

>>8882558
I said:
>Working at something you hate
Is bad

I also said:
>doing things you enjoy doing is the only thing worth spending any time towards

So grats on doing something you enjoy and getting paid for it!

>> No.8882578

>>8882549
You do what you have to do so you no longer have time to do what you want to do.

>> No.8882587

I can't believe how much I changed with 4chan. Nowadays I just want to find a job to get money so I can buy land, build on it and rent the houses so I can live off rent and then buy hueg screens and high quality audio to watch chinese cartoons.

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>>8882399

>and aren't doing what humans are supposed to do

Humans aren't "supposed" to do anything. There is no purpose to life and there's no goal that we're supposed to be striving for.

You live and you die. What you do in between doesn't matter at all. This applies to every living thing, not just humans. If you want to sit next to a tree and just starve to death then you can go ahead and do that, if you want to sit inside at a computer for the rest of your life then that's fine too. None of it actually matters, so just do whatever you want until you die.

>> No.8882606

If I win the lottery big I want to give a home to as many NEETs as I can. Pay for whatever food they want, whatever their tech requirements are, whatever stupid toys and shit they want to buy. All this just to rub it in the faces of people who judge NEETs and claim that the only way to get ahead in life is to work hard.

>> No.8882607

>don't play games
>don't watch anime
>don't listen to music
>don't fap

My former life has disintegrated and it's okay because I can't into feelings when on anti-psychotics. I drink alone on the weekends to kill the extreme boredom.

>> No.8882611

>>8882607
What the hell do you do all day?

>> No.8882614

>>8882611
Daydream.

>> No.8882618 [DELETED] 

>>8882614

>> No.8882620

>>8882614
Pretty much the same here, minus the chemicals

>> No.8882632

>>8882356
I'm kind of surprised I'm not an alcoholic. I can't be assed to actually go out and buy any, although I am rather fond of the stuff if it's around. The last couple weeks of the last summer I spent drunk every night, etc. And I'm never sober over the holidays, etc. But I never bother to actually go out and buy it.

>> No.8882684

I wish I had a Yamazaki to drink with.

Only occasionally though, don't want to cheapen it.

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>>8882611

I lurk 4chan, Youtube and Wikipedia. I can almost pretend the people on Youtube are talking to me specifically. Occasionally I look for work and study biology. I failed out of uni last Fall, but they might take me back next Fall. Basically I'm an internet zombie.

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>>8881894
>>8881894
I hate my life because i am forced to live with my parents, i have no money to enforce myself to live on my own. nor do any one of the 70ish employers whom i send my resume to feels like hiring me.
my parents also just happens to be dipshits and make up their dipshit house rules that's full of contradictions. and when i say dipship rules i meant they restrict the stuff like
> You could be programming, learning languages, learning instruments, playing video games, listening to music, lucid dreaming, whatever you want to do.
i am stuck in a loop.

>> No.8882713

>If you have an internet connection and a computer then your options for fun are limitless and yet you seem so depressed? Why?

two words: teen angst

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>>8881894

>> No.8882731

>>8882713
On 4chan you don't outgrow teen angst until your late twenties.

>> No.8882732

>nor do any one of the 70ish employers whom i send my resume to feels like hiring me.

you need to call them and follow up just before you are sure that you're being annoying.

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Why the hell are people even trying to discuss this crap?

This is /jp/.

NOBODY. CARES.

And that is exactly the problem.

Thread reported.

>> No.8882780

>>8882732
i.. i can't do it.. i just can't

>> No.8882798

Do people here really enjoy their work?
I dont hate my job but I sure as hell dont like it either.
I just do it and deal with it because I need money to survive.
If there is a job out there that pay you to play Touhou, read eroge or shitpost on /jp/, please sign me up for it.

In the meantime, slaving now to earn enough $$$ so that I can be a NEET later.

>> No.8882889

>go into archive
>see about 20 posts that have been deleted by the janitor
>all using sage, all logically critical of the OP's claims

And this is why /jp/ is trash.

>> No.8882901

>>8882889
what the hell did you expect? the janitor obviously made the thread.

>> No.8883115

>>8882901
>>8882889
For some reason your posts reminded me of Sherlock and Watson.

Time to go look at the archive, silly janitor.

>> No.8883138

I wish I could be a hikitruNEET like OP.

But being a NEET costs money and it has to come from somewhere....

>> No.8883180

Life is alright. I've always had a certain degree of social anxiety and suffer from depression (diagnosed). My medical problems certainly don't help with my self esteem. But I did get into a decent uni and make some good friends there. My parents spoiled me but also put on a shitload of pressure even though I often don't feel like forcing myself (bland networking crap etc.) given my depression and the fact that I'd be able to live pretty well for the rest of my life with inheritance. Thankfully I can always rely on my older sis to help me recover from a low. In fact, I'd probably drown in my own filth if she didn't regularly come over to clean up after me haha.
tl;dr: Just by myself, my life is awful. With family and a few friends, can't really complain tbh.

>> No.8883199

>>8883138
>Being a NEET costs money.

Doing it wrong, scrub.

>> No.8883258

I've only done the NEET thing for a year and I'm already kinda bored. I don't really wanna do much of anything and it's a struggle to actually get the desire to do something. I wouldn't call it a bad life, but it's boring, I feel too complacent, I want to do something exciting but I don't know what that exciting thing is so I just sit in my room most of the time playing the same games I played before.

>> No.8883281

Keep in mind that could all go away at the drop of a hat, and you would be left with nothing.

I get what you mean, though. I'd much rather be a NEET with no money than some corporate goon dedicating the majority of my time to being miserable for cash.

>> No.8883287

>>8883281
It's all about balance.

>> No.8883299

>>8883258
Get some hobbies.

>> No.8883314

/jp/ just never do what you love for a job. Because what you love will turn into a job. Not to mention the companies will know you love it, and screw you as much as possible because they know you'll stay because you love the job. Like pilots.

>> No.8883326

>>8883299

I probably should, I just don't really have any desire to do so. Whenever I get inspired to do something, I start off pretty pumped up but that fire just burns out way too quickly and I just go back to my games when I get bored.

>> No.8883346

>>8883314

You'd rather have me work a job I hate than something I love? If you are truly passionate about something then you will feel privileged to be paid to do it.

>> No.8883365

I wish I could be as simple-minded as you, OP.
I was pretty much born depressed.

>> No.8883379

>>8883346
This is exactly why pilots get paid less than security guards after hundreds of thousands of dollars of schooling.

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Shut-in threads happened because the only anime series /b/ knew about were Rozen Maiden and maybe Welcome/NHK and the only asian-only game they've ever heard of that isn't a whore sim is Yume Nikki

They're all fake threads. Endless fake threads made by an endless supply of easily-amused, lazy-but-mean-spirited stupid people, swarming around the corpse of /b/ like flies, purely just because some people posted a little 9/11 shock humor material there at one point.

>> No.8883406

>>8883379
The majority of airline pilots are ex-airforce

>> No.8883425

I'd love to be a neet forever
but I'll have to get money from somewhere.
working is not an option

>> No.8883490

I have problems sleeping, I'm depressed, I am confused about my sexuality and gender, I'm very lonely and I'm extremely self consious about my appearance.

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>>8883490

Even if nobody in your life cares, I do.

>> No.8883501

Ignorance is bliss.

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>>8882225
holy shit it's 4/20

>> No.8883519

>>8883495
People care, but they don't really know to what extent I'm unhappy. My parents are actually very caring and supportive and are helping me pay for college. I realize that I am very lucky. My life isn't necessarily shit, but I feel shitty.

>> No.8883554

Im depressed because the government wants to take my limitless internet away from me. From all of us.

>> No.8883574

>>8883490
>>8883519

I can sort of relate. I'm alone at home a lot of the time with just the family dogs to watch as the day goes on. I often find myself doing nothing. Sometimes things just seem so empty.

>> No.8883584

Its because I have all these great things and no motivation or desire to do anything with them.
I'm sure this has already been brought up multiple times in this thread, but oh well.

>> No.8883666

My dad keeps telling me to get a job. He tells me to stop watching cartoons, collecting figurines and dressing up like a little girl.

>> No.8883727

For a NEET, after a while real responsibilities come up. They gnaw on you until you get incredibly depressed and miserable because you've put them off so long. I would love to not have any responsibilities or not care about them.

Hikki is hard mode, I start getting psychotic if I stay in my room too long. Can't sleep, constant feeling of stress, and... other things.

>> No.8883743

>>8882295
a friend in med school calls and says "I hate my life"

then a week later "I love this so much"

then "i drank so much i almost died because i wanted to get away from it all, but somehow i got to bang my TA the same night"

>> No.8883755

When I was a NEET for a few years, I loved my life. But I had to start working because I had no money left. So now I participate in depression threads. When I was a NEET though, I felt like I could have kept being a NEET forever. I wish I could go back...

>> No.8883766 [DELETED] 

truNEETs are so arrogant, even if they're at the bottom of society.

>> No.8883800

I enjoy being a neet too. The pain of loneliness is beautiful, I like looking at the evening sunset and thinking about existence and how I've been abandoned on this earth,
I like fantasizing suicide and hopelessness, I just want to curl up in a ball and be with myself and my thoughts.

>> No.8883808

NEETs are spoiled brats who couldn't stop sucking their mothers' tits and grow up.

>> No.8883821

>>8881894
You've just convinced yourself that all of it is the ultimate in human experience, and you won't know what the rest of it is like, or even be aware enough to comprehend it, unless you actually experience it.

You are like the person in Plato's cave, except that you have control to directly influence your situation. Stop fooling yourself.

>> No.8883827

>>8883808
>>8883821

You both don't know what you're talking about. You're speaking for yourselves or a stereotype, simple as that.

>> No.8883831

>>8883827
Name something you speak from besides experience and "stereotypes."

>> No.8883838

>>8883727
Perhaps you're naturally extroverted, so being isolated eventually nags at you?

>> No.8883853

I love my life but I'm not a NEET.

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>>8883838

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>>8883827

>> No.8883867

>>8883831

ur moms pussy when i tell ur cuckold dad to go get me a glas of wine to wash out that dirty pusy taste lol

>> No.8883881

>>8883821
But in my case, I have experienced other human experiences, and I still think being NEET was the best.

>> No.8883899

>You could be programming
Trying to pick it up
>learning languages
You're a shut in, you don't need to know a lot languages, you are't traveling the world or anything. Unless you want to play the untranslated VNs.
>learning instruments
No money to get one, but I would really like to do that.
>playing video games
Shit PC, didn't play anything released past 2008, poor as fuck.
>listening to music
I'm doing that, hard to find good songs that I would like tho.
>lucid dreaming
Ehhhhh, maybe later.

>> No.8883951

How come NEETs such as OP are so arrogant, even though they're at the bottom of society?

>> No.8883963

I've been a shut-in for eight years and I'm very happy. False NEETs get out.

>> No.8883966

>>8883951

Bottom of society? What about murderers, rapists, the homeless, the mentally retarded? We're only 1 step under the average citizen in terms of ranking. Hardly the bottom.

>> No.8883975

>>8883966
>murderers, rapists
NEETs are too beta for that
>the homeless
NEETs without parents to leech off.
>the mentally retarded
NEETs are mentally retarded

>> No.8883997

Why is lucid dreaming listed like it's a good thing?
If anything wouldn't you feel even more depressed if you mastered it?
I mean who gives a fuck about the real world when you are the king of your dreams.

>> No.8883998

>>8883951
OP doesn't seem arrogant at all. Also, I believe NEETs are either one step below or one above, depending on how you look at it. Definitely not at the bottom.

>> No.8884007

NEETs are at the top of society. Everyone else is busy working at a miserable job they hate while us True NEETs are at home having fun all day every day.

The normals are the true losers.

>> No.8884030

>>8883966
>only absorb, don't contribute
>leech off of others
>"I'm not he bottom at all, I'm always one step away cum on step it up"

>> No.8884051

>>8884030

And?

Fuck contributing to you pieces of shit. I'm not part of your little rat race you faggot.

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>>8884030

He doesn't actively ruin anything, though, like murders, robbers or rapists, you fucking retard.

There's a difference between being social-avoidance and antisocial behavior.

>> No.8884110

>>8884030
Prisoners are the ultimate leecher scum though. Even someone receiving autismbucks doesn't cost the government nearly as much money annually.

>> No.8884118

>>8882528
http://www.whywork.org/rethinking/whywork/abolition.html

>> No.8884135

>>8884086
he's a leech and a worthless piece of shit and he always will be until said better future

I agree staying away from the stuff you mentioned is the lesser of two evils, but it is still ONE OF THE EVILS

>> No.8884136

>>8884135

Most jobs contribute no real value to society or humanity

>> No.8884140

>>8884136
define "real value"

>> No.8884141

>being brainwashed into thinking people who work are sub-human, even though you hate working and you're pretty much only angry at NEETs because you have to work

>> No.8884142

>>8884141

*don't work

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Hasta la victoria siempre.

>> No.8884162

/jp/ is just above the brainwashing that makes people think they're obliged to "contribute to society"

>> No.8884173

>>8884162
I'm not.

>> No.8884178

>>8884162

I think being a neet has the most freedom therefore is one of the best paths. The only path higher than this is the 1% wealthy elite but even then...it's restricting and corrupting having too much money.

>> No.8884180

>>8884162
I don't think anyone here thinks that. There is a more important question to be answered though. What are you? If you're concerned about this at all, you will earnestly try to better yourself because it can only help you, not hinder you. No one person should be required to contribute, perhaps, but every decent human being, I would think would actually care to contribute in their own way. "You get out of life what you put into it" is not an exclusively Western idea.

>> No.8884192

>>8884180

I'm contributing by posting on /jp/. Somebody actually thanked me for something earlier.

>> No.8884197

>>8884162

Yeah but that still doesn't explain the general laziness and lack of self-improvement. You don't do things solely becuase society wants you to.

>> No.8884200

>>8884197

Does learning Japanese count as improving myself?

>> No.8884205

>>8884200
Of course.

>> No.8884207

>>8884192

Thank you for contributing to this thread with your positive remarks. You've brightened up my mood and influenced me to be alot more positive and understanding towards others, thanks!

>> No.8884277

>>8882283
My little brother does, and he's a really happy, friendly kid, for the most part.

>> No.8884707

бамп

>> No.8884941

I'm someone who can't take care of himself. I'm also a spineless fuck. There always has to be some real demand and pressure to make me do something. If you just leave me alone, my productivity in hobby things goes down to 10%, and in important life things down to about 0%. If someone drives me, I'm doing ok (I could get ok through kindergarten, school, most of university). If not, I completely and utterly fail at life.
Sometimes I think of this as literally deadly laziness.

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>>8884941
I can attest to that. When my father got fucked and had to live in the same room as me, I basically spent the whole day learning Japanese. (learning Japanese was the only thing I did that I saw as acceptable and productive) Looking back at it, that sounds pretty undoable, but I'm 99.99% sure that was what I was doing pretty much all day.

Nowadays, back to being alone, being productive is much harder. I struggle doing my ~45min anki reps everyday, and I just laze around. Watching a few anime eps, reading a few chapters of manga, and a few screens of VNs. I'm too unproductive.

I hate it. I'm gonna change this now!

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>>8884962

>> No.8885014

>>8884962
Fuck. It's 4:18 am here and I still haven't done my reps for the day. Damnit.

>> No.8885019

>>8885014
The worst is staying up all night procrastinating something you end up not doing.

>> No.8885023

>>8882283
Diagnosed professionally and on the autism bux. Sup.

>> No.8885025

>>8884941
>>8884962
I know that feel. Or should I bee asking "are you me?"...

>> No.8885026

>>8885025
I honestly find ,,are you me?'' much more annoying.

>> No.8885029

>>8885019
Yeah I hate that. I've only missed reps a few times, and on those times only ~half which I caught up on the next day, but they just keep me up so late. I would have gone to bed hours ago if it wasn't for them, and now I will be too tired to do them as well as I could have earlier.

>> No.8885033

>>8885029
Fuck it. I'm just going to start now. Only 248 in one deck, and 38 in the other today, so it shouldn't take quite as long as usual.

>> No.8885034

>>8885019
You know it's really bad if you procrastinate even about enjoying yourself. After 5 hours of pondering what the hell you should do next (and trying to gain motivation for it) but doing nothing, you think you could have spent that time much better by reading that manga you always planned to read.

Seriously, what the fuck.

>> No.8885049

>>8885034

I'm like that, but I think it's because I'm depressed and unmotivated to do even things I enjoy. I just can't be bothered to have fun all day like I used to.

>> No.8885066

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0&ob=av2n

>> No.8885073

>>8885034
The way to get past this (at least, that I usually find works for me), is to just go do something, even if you don't think you'll enjoy it. If you really don't enjoy it, switch to something else. Usually you find yourself enjoying it a lot more than you thought you would, etc.

>> No.8885075

All right /jp/, how do I, as an American, get a hold of autism bucks? You guys say I have autism, but I'm pretty sure I actually don't; how do I convince the autism bucks people that I do though?

>> No.8885094

>>8885073
It's not about enjoying or not enjoying. It's about hardcore procrastination, and the last drop of feeling of responsibility that's left.
I feel like I should do something useful instead of wasting my time with entertainment, so I end up doing nothing.
Even if I decide to do something, I get easily distracted.

>> No.8885114

>>8885094
When you think to yourself that you should be doing somehthing productive, does anything specific usually come to mind? Or just productive shit in general?

>> No.8885135

>>8885114
Trying to get a job (just writing a fucking resume and applying online), or improving my skills as programmer, or doing something for that one open source project, or start working on the project I always wanted to do. That's it.
I'm like a ball with the air let out. Fuck this lifestyle.

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>>8885094
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm okay as long as I get into a routine, pic related, but I really have to kick myself to get into that routine... also pic related, even before that patchy start I spent months telling myself I should get started.

>> No.8885171

I like my NEET life. I don't like the social expectations and pressures that come from leeching off someone though. If I could be NEET without being a burden I'd be in pure happiness. Like one of those lucky dudes that inherit a huge sum and just live the sweet NEET life.

>> No.8885176

>>8885171
Yeah, that would be really neat

>> No.8885195

>>8885171
Just keep participating in the national lottery.

One day...

>> No.8885315

>>8882118
The problem is if you're legitimately a hikki then how the fuck do you get the psychiatrist meeting for this? I've wanted to apply for disability for a year now but I can't even fill out the fucking form without getting nervous and shutting the tab off.

And it fucking requires you to provide 2 people other than you that can vouch for your disability? Fucking oxymoron shit right there.

>> No.8885507

>>8885315
It took me forever to fill everything out, becuase I'd get scarred and stop all the time. Being pants shitting terrified is a good thing though, becuase when they call you, it shows. And when you go to the appointment and you look like you're about to have a heart attack, it shows.

You don't even need to fake anything or pretend anything if the fear is in you. Sweat stutter and mumble, when they look at you stare at the ground and shake!

The money is for people like that, and you'll get it easy. Then you can spend the next year recovering from the whole experience.

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am i dying?

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