Daiteikoku

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Daiteikoku Anonymous Fri Apr 29 04:59:37 2011 No.7283820 [Reply] [Original]

Discussion general.Your impressions about the game, hints, and more.

Previous thread >>7280334

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:02:37 2011 No.7283828 FFA mode confirmed?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:05:37 2011 No.7283833

>There were some retards in the first thread complaining about the game being so easy that you could faceroll your keyboard and win. Turns out, they were playing the game on IWIN mode, aka choosing the last option on the Event window, which gives you a ninja that can give you thousands of resources/tech every time you select it.
Atlas, so good.
>>7283828
Nope, you just play as CORE

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:05:37 2011 No.7283834 >>7283828 No. Some people are still playing it? I thought people would get tired after a while. So mediocre

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:07:37 2011 No.7283836 >>7283833 Never used the ninja, it was still piss easy. It's you guys who can't understand moon who have trouble since you can read what ship to use for what situation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:13:37 2011 No.7283843 When I tried selecting the final option I get a game over. Just to be sure, the ninja thing will be obvious, right? I don't want to select it by accident.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:19:37 2011 No.7283853
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Previous Thread questions:

>So it seems like Germany goes down on Turn 30. Any advice on how to save loli Hitler?

I thin you need to finish off Rusia before it´s too late and also ally with Germany, but i´m not sure about the last.

>(see picture) Are these just cushions to your HP? I see no benefits to having cargo freighters or cruise ships in your fleet.

They are also useful if you equip them to the 4 generics and make them go to planets that you have just conquered for public order and resources when it get´s full.

Also, give two of the first one to Tanaka early and will have a little more health to resist every attack when you face China

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:19:37 2011 No.7283854 >>7283834 It's better than Kamidori at least

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:20:37 2011 No.7283857 File: 16 KB, 186x220, cg00008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >No FFA mode >No option to play as MEXICO HANNIES >No option to play as MONGOLIAN RANCE KHAN FUCK YOU

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:22:37 2011 No.7283861 >>7283834 It´s a solid 7.5 game. It could have been much, much better but it´s still a good game, only that people were expecting a Sengoku Rance and got a similar version to Daibanchou.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:23:37 2011 No.7283863 >>7283861 Except Daibanchou was better. Actually even Kichikuou Rance was more in depth.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:23:37 2011 No.7283865

>>7283853
So are the generics only good for public order? Should I build a bunch of cruise ships and send them to the ones I recently conquered, due to the warnings of unrest?

And should I always have my leader in the frontlines? I just got raped by a Chinese needle ship and need to rethink my strategy.

Also in the beginning since I dont know much Japanese, when Gamerica comes for you and increases the cost of your ships 10%, is that the same from like the Ashikaga clan thing, if you refuse they declare war on you etc etc?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:24:37 2011 No.7283867 >>7283857 Sengoku Rance didn´t have a FFA at the begining, so it´s still posible that they could do a patch for it later. Also, that reminds me that i hear that a patch for Daiteikoku was out. Anyone knows about it?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:25:37 2011 No.7283870

discovered endings so far:

True Japan unification route: Agree to the Japanification plan. Now when you conquer a territory it's icon will change to a cherry blossom after several turns. Do this for all territories and you get this ending

Adolf Ending: Beat Germany last. This is harder than it seems because Russia will steamroll through Germany.

Scarlet ending. (a.k.a getting your wife back)
This is bit complicated
Ally with Axis
Let Germany be defeated following the plot
Agree to Doenitz's plan to save Adolf
Clear enough events to get her confidence back
Suppress natural disaster 3 times. You will be locked into Scarlet route after this. This is hard because natural disasters tend to have hight stats. It's possible that you also need to capture the blonde American. (she's your in-law.. kinda..)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:30:37 2011 No.7283875 How should I deal with the insane boss invader monsters with 4000+hp? Just ignore them? Or does fighting them help make them go away?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:30:37 2011 No.7283876 >>7283863 Daibanchou sucked. The constant reloading that you had to do because of how retarded it was to efficiently clear characters combined with lolRNG combat made for a "game" that only the severely autistic could enjoy.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:31:37 2011 No.7283879

>>7283865
>So are the generics only good for public order? Should I build a bunch of cruise ships and send them to the ones I recently conquered, due to the warnings of unrest?

Yes, because they a -40% in everything, so it´s better to leave them to surpress the conquered territories.

>And should I always have my leader in the frontlines? I just got raped by a Chinese needle ship and need to rethink my strategy.

You need the lider, yeah. If he acts too slow, try giving him the basic ships at the begining to increase his laser attack and speed

>Also in the beginning since I dont know much Japanese, when Gamerica comes for you and increases the cost of your ships 10%, is that the same from like the Ashikaga clan thing, if you refuse they declare war on you etc etc

If you refuse the first one, they will declare war on you later on (turn 7-9, don´t know) but you can also go to war with them in the begining of the turn event at turn 5, accepting the proposal of war.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:33:37 2011 No.7283883 >>7283875 You need generation 5 ships to even stand a chance Huge space monsters deal damage to all of your shihps

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:33:37 2011 No.7283884 >>7283876 You weren't obligated to clear characters, and I had to reload more in Rance, especially with the luck based "character death" and Assasinate, ect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:33:37 2011 No.7283885 >>7283870 If you agreed to the Japanification plan, does that lock you out of the Scarlet ending?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:34:37 2011 No.7283888 >>7283863 Actually Kichikou Rance was better than Daibanchou in every way and also Daiteikoku has new kind of gameplay in the series, so i think they are mostly equal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:34:37 2011 No.7283889 >>7283885 I'm not sure. Doesn't Axis break your alliance if you do that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:38:37 2011 No.7283894 >>7283889 It might, come to think of it. The Japanification plan is that part when Mikado writes about the Great Japanese Empire or something, right?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:41:37 2011 No.7283901

>>7283884
Yeah, because it's not like units in Rance VII were, Takeda Blitz aside, rarely annihilated when you deployed them with good footsoldiers.

Because it's not like units in Rance VII only had a chance to die, as opposed to having a 100% chance of dying like in Daibanchou.

Oh wait.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:42:37 2011 No.7283903 >>7283876 Well there is no character clear in Daiteikoku which is even more retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:44:37 2011 No.7283911 >>7283888 Fuck no, Kichikuou Rance is much better than Daiteikoku in every ways; The new kind of gameplay fucking sucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:45:37 2011 No.7283915 How I do enjoy sending that girl int a heavily fortified planet only to watch her get blown to bits.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:47:37 2011 No.7283920

>>7283901
Precisely, that's the point. Daibancho had less chance, it was more of a stragegy game, as opposed to the randomness in Rance. It's designed to be played so you keep the characters alive, and you didn't need to send weak units to fight and could run, whereas Rance is designed to go all out...except there's a random chance of losing the unit forever so you have to reload.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:48:37 2011 No.7283925 Actually there is and it even factors into the gameplay, giving new abilities.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:50:37 2011 No.7283928 how do we save loli hitler

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:51:37 2011 No.7283929 >>7283911 >I think they are mostly equal I was implying Daiteikoku and Daibanchou, not Kichikou and Daiteikoku

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:51:37 2011 No.7283932 >>7283920 >Daibancho had less chance involved >it was more of a stragegy game than Rance VII You just went full retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:52:37 2011 No.7283934 File: 11 KB, 156x185, 156px-Sengoku_Rance_-_Uesugi_Kensei.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7283920 Daibancho was more of a stragegy game than Sengoku Rance

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:53:37 2011 No.7283935 >>7283903 Fucking ATLAS scrubs. Do you not see the notification that sometimes pops up after you H a female?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:53:37 2011 No.7283938 >>7283883 Can you make them go away by doing some damage, or do you just have to wait until they drain all order in the area?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:55:37 2011 No.7283941 >>7283935 That mean nothing, by character clear I mean actually having story arc about characters. In Daiteikoku they are really minor. Stop eating the half-assed shit they give you faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:55:37 2011 No.7283943 File: 27 KB, 480x360, 0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7283920 >Daibanchou >Better strategy than SR OH GOD! OH MAN!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:58:37 2011 No.7283949 >>7283941 > by character clear I mean actually having story arc about characters. backpedaling with all your might

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:58:37 2011 No.7283950

>>7283932
>>7283934
I certainly feel it was. You had to micromanage your units more, and you knew exactly how much damage you would do, could take from each enemy, ect. However it was also a weakness in that you could do the same thing each playthrough.

Rance was more just hoping you could nuke the enemies before they nuked you, or your assassinations worked, and then even when everything goes well your characters could randomly die permanently.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:59:37 2011 No.7283951 >>7283941 If you want half-assed shit, go play Kamidori

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 05:59:37 2011 No.7283954 >>7283951 LOL

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:00:37 2011 No.7283955

>>7283941
>tell people to stop praising the hell out of half-assed games
>samefag over and over again about how Daiteikoku sucks and the new eushully game is God's gift to mankind and not a generic grinding game with (mostly) bad character designs

Stay classy, hypocrite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:01:37 2011 No.7283956 >>7283854 >>7283951 >>7283955 It's funny because it's obvious it's the same guy. You can enjoy Daiteikoku without the need to sling shit on other gameplay games, you know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:01:37 2011 No.7283957 >>7283955 I never mentioned Kamidori in these threads. Stop being such a paranoid fag please, I couldn't care less about your shitty rivalry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:02:37 2011 No.7283958 >>7283950 Yeah, because it's not like you could just send in Rouga when you ran into something you needed steamrolled, right? Oh wait.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:03:37 2011 No.7283960 I think FFA might be added later. IIRC sengoku rance didn't have one at the start.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:05:37 2011 No.7283967

Kamidori
+Gamplay is well paced and addictive
-Story is mediocre, characters are mostly bland, writing is neither funny or witty

Daiteikoku
+Good story and characters, enjoyable Alicesoft type humor
-Gameplay is bland, pacing is really bad, get boring quickly

Depend on what you want, I'd take Sengoku Rance over both easily

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:06:37 2011 No.7283968 >>7283956 No, just no. >>7283854 It´s a troll >>7283951 It´s me >>7283955 It´s other guy >>7283957 Because normally people that tell this game is shit is also people that say Kamidori is glorious, that´s why. Or at least that´s what i think.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:06:37 2011 No.7283969 >>7283960 Daiteikoku won't have a FFA. The map is too small for that and there are too few nations for that

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:08:37 2011 No.7283972

>>7283968
>Because normally people that tell this game is shit is also people that say Kamidori is glorious, that´s why. Or at least that´s what i think.

It's far worse in the 2ch threads, it's normal considering they were both released around the same time anyways

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:09:37 2011 No.7283974 Now I've seen it all. /a/v/ atlas using rance newfags calling Kamidori, a game they haven't even played, shitty because people criticize their precious Alicesoft title.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:12:37 2011 No.7283981 File: 19 KB, 352x127, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there anyway I can get rid of unwanted admirals? For example take this guy. I don't want a fucking high schoolgirl rapist in my team.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:14:37 2011 No.7283985 >>7283969 Sengoku Rance has 19 factions and 31 territories Daiteikoku has 12-14 factions and 40 territories I think is enough

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:14:37 2011 No.7283986 >>7283969 Huh? The map is larger than Sengoku Rance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:14:37 2011 No.7283988 >>7283969 Daiteikoku is going to have FFA, because Rance VII and BBA both had FFA. In fact, I'm pretty sure the reason they changed the Event system from how it was in previous games is to adapt it more readily to an FFA mode.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:15:37 2011 No.7283989 A FFA would be pretty bad in this anyways. It's not like anything will change, the ships will be the same

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:17:37 2011 No.7283995 >>7283981 Nvm. Had to get rid of him by a choice in the event phase. ....Do I miss out on any future H-scenes because of this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:17:37 2011 No.7283998 >>7283981 There is an event where you can get rid of him if you choose him in the conversation phase.Choose the second option

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:18:37 2011 No.7284000 >>7283989 >guiz its not going to have an FFA >it will? oh well that doesn't matter becuz it sucks anyway You're backpedalling so hard I could swear you're trying to learn to swim

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:21:37 2011 No.7284004 >>7283986 The map may seem larger but due to the fact that territory can be captured extremely quickly, it feel far smaller. If you were to cut all the event phase, you could probably conquer the entire map in less than 1 hour.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:21:37 2011 No.7284005

>>7283870
>This is harder than it seems because Russia will steamroll through Germany.
I was steamrolling Russia when white hole happened, anything to counter that?
I have tried advancing from the south, but apparently you can't send troops through friendly territory in order to defend them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:23:37 2011 No.7284006 >>7283988 I think Daibanchou doesn´t have a FFA mode, only Hard and Extra difficulties. nice dubs

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:24:37 2011 No.7284010 >>7284004 And why is that a problem? It's only FFA, doesn't have to be long. Actually being short would make it more fun. >>7284006 Daibanchou has Chaos mode though

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:26:37 2011 No.7284013

>>7284004
...Except for the whole "gathering resources, upgrading your ships, and repairing damaged units" part. Even if you ignore Events and use the ninja, you can't beat the game in an hour.

>>7284006
Have you not played Chaos mode? It's FFA with the characters you've fully cleared in your previous runs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:27:37 2011 No.7284014 >>7284010 With the Extra i was meaning Chaos but i didn´t remember the name.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:28:01 2011 No.7284016 >DAT Shounen

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:31:37 2011 No.7284018 How is Japan reacting to it? Are they shitstorming?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:33:37 2011 No.7284022 >>7284018 There was much shit storming in the 2ch threads. It's simply disappointing, but many of the replies read like typical trolls, so I'm not sure if I'm overestimating it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:33:37 2011 No.7284023 >>7284018 Its current rating on EGS is 55. Closer to 50 if you remove the two "lol 99" votes. You tell me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:34:37 2011 No.7284025 Should I build Fish Factory Cities or should I just focus on tax city building?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:34:37 2011 No.7284026 >>7284018 Japan shitstorm everything. Is not a surprise. What i´m wondering is how much as this sold.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:35:37 2011 No.7284027 >>7284026 *has

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:36:37 2011 No.7284028 how the fuck do you attack someone fuck!!!!!!!!! this game sucks

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:37:37 2011 No.7284030 >Daiteikoku >+Good story and characters Pull the other one, it has bells.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:38:37 2011 No.7284034 >>7284028 lol u butt devastated. Click your planet. Click the bottom right button that says Move/Transfer Click the planet you want to move to Select the ships you want to send. End turn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:40:37 2011 No.7284035 File: 31 KB, 175x152, You_cannot_grasp_the_true_form.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7284030 I cannot grasp the true form of your trolling

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:40:37 2011 No.7284036 >>7283853 >make them go to planets that you have just conquered for public order and resources when it get´s full Getting resources is not automatic?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:42:37 2011 No.7284039 >>7284036 You don´t get resources from planets you have already conquered if it isn´t full blue, so you have to leave some characters there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:43:37 2011 No.7284040 >>7284023 I fail to see how this game warrants a lower score than Shaman Sanctuary.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:43:37 2011 No.7284042 >>7284034 It's funny how you can be condescending and retarded at the same time. Protip: Shift + click

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:44:37 2011 No.7284043 >>7283870 Wait, by Adolf ending, does it mean you get a happy end with Retia or something? I can bear if the game doesn't have Retia femdom, but I need my Retia end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:44:37 2011 No.7284045 >>7284040 Dissapointed rage faggots

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:45:37 2011 No.7284046 >>7284045 Poor baby still can't accept that the little darling he's been jerking off to for the last year is terrible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:46:37 2011 No.7284048 This thread, the last one, and the one before are all fucking horrible. Take this shit back to /a/ please, you can keep it for all I care.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:47:37 2011 No.7284050 How do you lower the percentage of cost for ships?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:47:37 2011 No.7284051 >>7284046 If this get´s a lower score than Shaman Sanctuary the answer is obvious

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:48:37 2011 No.7284052 Anyone have a mirror for the 1.01 patch? I can't access alicesoft's website.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:49:37 2011 No.7284053 >>7284050 Join forced with Germany, and those useless pigs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:50:37 2011 No.7284054 >>7284050 Buying new ships from the girl with a cat in the head. At least for me

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:50:37 2011 No.7284056 >>7284054 That's not buying, that's inventing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:52:37 2011 No.7284060 >No Goebbels route >no pregnancy cgs of her >no penetration ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:52:37 2011 No.7284061 >>7284026 Kamidori and Sisters are well liked and don't get shitstorms. Even Eustia that isn't as amazing as it seemed like after the trial doesn't get shitstorm since it's still good enough. Daiteikoku gets shitstorms because it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:52:37 2011 No.7284062 >>7284056 Shh. Don't ruin the fun for the Atlasing morons. The longer they're distracted by this garbage, the longer they'll stay away from good things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:54:37 2011 No.7284065 >>7284061 Eustia's actually been pretty funny to watch the reception. It's basically been a lot of people shrugging and going "August wwwwww"

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:55:37 2011 No.7284067 File: 45 KB, 187x222, Ran .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7284060 >TADA´s face when you cry

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 06:59:37 2011 No.7284075 Take this shit to /a/.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:03:37 2011 No.7284079

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:03:37 2011 No.7284080 >>7284075 Peaceful discussion about a game I don't like? People enjoying themselves having a good time? HERESY!

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:05:37 2011 No.7284082

>>7284061
>Kamidori and Sisters are well liked and don't get shitstorms

Kamidori is copypasta of Himegari with DERP history,MC and heroines, worse atmosphere than the previous game and generics design but with little improvement. And we now how much Japan likes copypaste games. Dynasty Warriors for example.

Sisters is good though.

>Even Eustia that isn't as amazing as it seemed like after the trial doesn't get shitstorm since it's still good enough

Tipical August game.

>Daiteikoku gets shitstorms because it's shit
It get´s shitstorm because people were having high expectacting and were faced with and average game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:06:37 2011 No.7284085 File: 6 KB, 175x191, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7284062 >No one understands the Japanese language better than me. I must mock all the heathens who don't appreciate this beautiful culture ne Ayumichannnn~

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:08:37 2011 No.7284089 >>7284079 Now i know why people are raging so much

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:09:37 2011 No.7284090 >>7284085 no one said anything about culture, nice delusions and we aren't the ones forcefully playing a game without knowing how it works even though it's all written under your nose

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:10:37 2011 No.7284092

>>7284082
I don't care about your opinion, I was just saying what the reception of these games were in Japan.
Though some of your complains are really, really retarded.

Of course Kamidori is a rehash of Himegari, it's the fucking spiritual sequel. It refined the gameplay, added some new things to make the experience more interesting, this is what people asked and this is what Eushully delivered.
Daiteikoku is also a sequel but rather than refining the gameplay it feels like a step down compared to the previous iterations, that's why people shitstorm.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:11:37 2011 No.7284093 I don't get it, is Daiteikoku really shit? I'm kinda enjoying it so far. It could be better yes but it's not shit. Though I don't really like how the game forces you to savescum.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:13:37 2011 No.7284094 >>7284092 We all thank you for speaking on behalf of the Japanese people. Do you bring any other messages on their behalf for us? What do they have to say about the crops this year? Will we have a bountiful harvest? God, you're a fuckwit.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:13:37 2011 No.7284095

>>7284093
Absolute Shit?
No.
People expecting better because it's a new iteration with loosely similar nechanics to previous strategy games of the company yes?
Think Dragon Age II, Deus Ex new games, Diablo III, Dungeon Siege III and so forth, to get the idea

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:14:37 2011 No.7284096 >>7284093 I admit I invade planets, check the HP of my enemies, then reload the save to build ships just to barely overpower them instead of overkill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:14:37 2011 No.7284097 >>7284095 Basically, it could be worse, but it's often hard to imagine how.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:16:37 2011 No.7284099 >>7284090 >Mistake buying instead of inventing >DUR HURR RETARDED AGTH SCUM. If you aren´t going to say anything to help, just the shup the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:16:37 2011 No.7284100 >>7284096 Well there's really no other way, unless you abused the ninja and built tons of shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:19:37 2011 No.7284104 >>7284082 Alice-Soft went full retard with this game. It was obvious since early trailers that loli Hitler and Stalin are by far the most popular characters. Everybody wanted their routes or choice to play their countries. See what we got instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:20:37 2011 No.7284106 >>7284079 Number of sales?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:21:37 2011 No.7284107 >>7284099 i'm not the guy who said "don't tell them it's inventing", fyi. but it's really pathetic seeing people playing shit they can't read and begging for help here, i really don't see why you would do that

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:22:37 2011 No.7284109 >>7284048 >>7284075

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:23:37 2011 No.7284110 Sigh... what happened to taking it easy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:24:37 2011 No.7284111 >>7284104 an explaination I heard was that there was supposed to be more focus on other factions but it got lost in development hell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:25:37 2011 No.7284112 >>7284110 Cocksucking /a/ rance kids happened.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:26:37 2011 No.7284113 >>7284110 /jp/ was not prepared for /a/ invasion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:27:37 2011 No.7284114 >>7284112 >RANCE SUCKS CUZ IT'S POPULAH NAO OMG /a/ AN /v/ FUK U GET OOT OF /jp/ Fuck you and your kind. Pseudo-hipster trash.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:28:37 2011 No.7284116 >>7284112 >>7284113 We are perfectly capable of having shitstorms on our own.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:28:37 2011 No.7284117

>>7284107
I admit that i don´t understand moonrunes, but i didn´t come here to be a "HELP ME PLEASEE" person, though i don´t mind helping anyone.

I actually thing the game is obvious and i didn´t have any problems understanding the plot even with shitlas. And seriously people raging for that simple mistake is just stupid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:29:37 2011 No.7284119 >>7284114 I never said Rance sucked. I'm implying that Rance attracts the lowest and stupidest kind of eroge fans, such as you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:30:37 2011 No.7284120 >>7284117 It makes them feel better about themselves. Just leave it at that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:31:37 2011 No.7284121 >>7284111 To be honest the game would've been better if we aren't getting endlessly bombarded by other faction's events. We're playing as Japan, not watching other factions play.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:32:37 2011 No.7284124 >>7284119 In other words you're implying people who play Rance for the gameplay and story elements instead of fapping material are the stupidest ones. Do manking a favour and go fuck yourself with a rusty rake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:33:37 2011 No.7284126 >>7284119 Actually, we atracted the Eushully childs here, so it´s getting worse than that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:33:37 2011 No.7284128 File: 49 KB, 360x360, 0,0,160,1721,360,360,01f84304.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7284124 All hail Manking!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:35:37 2011 No.7284130 >>7284042 >Protip: Shift + click Any other shortcut you know?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:37:37 2011 No.7284133

>>7284124
>In other words you're implying people who play Rance for the gameplay and story elements instead of fapping material are the stupidest ones.
What.. maybe you should read the previous Daiteikoku and Rance Quest threads to get what I mean by attracting the shittiest fans in the eroge fandom. Plus I think your caps-lock-greentexting tells enough of the rance fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:37:37 2011 No.7284134 File: 21 KB, 320x240, Statler_Waldorf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you know one thing that Daiteikoku did do really well? I can't think of anything either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:38:37 2011 No.7284137 >>7284126 Says the guy who just heard for the first time of the company in Daiteikoku threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:39:37 2011 No.7284138 >>7284134 see >>7283967

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:41:37 2011 No.7284140 >>7283967 Since both games relies heavily on gameplay, the choice is obvious.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:42:37 2011 No.7284141

>>7284133
>caps-lock-greentexting
>caps-lock
The who in the what now?
>maybe you should read the previous Daiteikoku and Rance Quest threads to get what I mean by attracting the shittiest fans in the eroge fandom
By all means please elaborate what you mean.
>eroge fandom
Rance is not an eroge, will never be, and doesn't attract this "fandom" through fap material but other elements.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:42:37 2011 No.7284144 File: 35 KB, 180x200, 1301490332261.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7284141 >Rance is not an eroge

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:43:37 2011 No.7284145

>>7284138
See >>Hahahahahahahahah fuck no you'd have to be retarded to think that.

Oh, is my link broken? If you honestly think that DTK has a good plot, pacing, or characters, there is no hope for you. In three threads now, I have not seen a single person say anything meaningful or express any like towards any characters except Rance, Goebbels, Adolf, and maybe Muccilini. Nothing about the protagonists, nothing about CORE, nada. Great cast. One that nobody gives a shit about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:43:37 2011 No.7284146 >>7284137 >He thinks is the first time i heard about Eushully >I played Ikusa Megami Zero,Verita, Himegari and Kamidori and Himegari is one of my favorites I think the gameplay is good but the fanbase is just stupid. Don´t get me wrong

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:44:37 2011 No.7284148 >>7284144 Now now. Be nice. It must be difficult to be online and posting without a functioning brain. We must treat him like the precious treasure that he is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:46:37 2011 No.7284151 >>7284145 That's because Goebbels is my daiteikoku waifu.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:46:37 2011 No.7284154

>>7284141
>The who in the what now?
Assuming you're the same guy as here >>7284114, you should really drop that shit.
>By all means please elaborate what you mean.
Archive, use it.
>Rance is not an eroge, will never be,
So I'm talking with someone who hasn't got the slightest clue of anything?
>and doesn't attract this "fandom" through fap material but other elements.
Porn plays a major role in attracting players. You could as well play normal games if didn't have porn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:52:37 2011 No.7284164 >>7284134 DOHOHO

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:54:37 2011 No.7284166 What the heck is up with the shamaness girl with stripes on her face? She showed up in events, had sex with Togo, but now has joined Soviet Union and has 7000 hp and nearly 2000 attack! Why she betray me ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 07:56:37 2011 No.7284167 >>7284166 Maybe she's a whore and you didn't satisfy her enough ;_;

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:01:37 2011 No.7284171

>>7284145
Not him, but I must say that I liked the Vikings.
And yes I can do without feeling hurt from them having portrayed them as big, hairy, sluggish, pedo-loving-folks in goat-"fur".
Cause you know, they had character. And the princess was also amazing.
They had some contrast to them as opposed to the others in the game, and I liked them.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:06:37 2011 No.7284178

The protagonist is shit, his daughter is pretty generic too.
Actually the Japanese side as a whole fucking suck.
Adolf and Goebel are the best characters, their side is pretty good as a whole though FUCK YOU HIMMEL
Gamerican side is pretty average, I never got interested in their events.
Aeris side is pretty good but it almost feel like they belong to another game.
For random characters, the vikings were amazing.

I would say the cast is mostly average, too bad the main character and Japan as a whole fucking suck so much

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:11:37 2011 No.7284184 >>7284178 >>7284171 Viking-chan is so cute ;_; The Aeris artstyle was different, it reminded me of Shirou Masamune art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:14:37 2011 No.7284185 >>7284121 the reasoning was that japan is boring and the other factions have so many events because you were supposed to pick one and or something and you would get their events

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:16:37 2011 No.7284186 We will never get a Daiteikoku "gaiden", the game as it should have been, right? Cause it would play much the same and not sell as good, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:17:37 2011 No.7284188 >>7284184 Yeah shame her CGs were shit. I was really interested in her. Same goes for Stalin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:20:37 2011 No.7284193 >>7284188 What was so bad about them? At least she had something besides generic sex, and she made a funny face in the second one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:24:37 2011 No.7284200 >>7284193 Something about the guy in the big furry costume is unsettling to me. The first time I saw it I thought she was getting fucked by a giant furry animal and bestiality is just no.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:25:37 2011 No.7284203

>Steam roll into Russia with 1/3 of my forces while another 1/3 pushes into California and the final 1/3 push through to India.
>Event in central russia cuts off the space lines completely stopping my movement and sending my forces back to Japan
>"Oh I guess I need to find another way around"
>Try to push through California with 2/3 of my forces
>Take California and USA goes Neutral
>"Well that was easy"
>Russia path opens up again
>Leave California empty since they are now neutral.
>Suddenly USA attacks again

All of my hate

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:30:37 2011 No.7284210 >>7284203 average alicesoft fan

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:31:37 2011 No.7284211

Aside from everything we already know poeple have complained about.
I still do enjoy the game.
I am however, sort of bummed, that there is no way of retreating when you attack.
It is even weirder to me, cause, when they attack you, you do have the option to abandon.
A patch of any kind, to bring some kind of attrition into the game, as say, battles that can go through halfway, could very possibly be a major upgrade to the game.

Then again, I wonder if Alice Soft knows what to do with the game as of now. It is probably very different from what they wanted it to be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:42:37 2011 No.7284230 >>7284211 Yeah, the current battle phase is retarded. You can't change battlefields and when you ran out of ships you can't do anything except to suicide the army. It feels really incomplete.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 08:53:37 2011 No.7284244 >>7284230 The not being able to move thing is one thing. But not being able to retreat when shit hits the fan is another. It wouldn't even have to be smooth. The shittier the situation the more you could lose from it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 09:00:37 2011 No.7284252 Some people said one should build fisheries, for money or something. How do you know what is what though? And what do the others do?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 10:02:37 2011 No.7284319 There is one good thing about Daiteikoku. It made Rancefags realize that Rance is a tremendous annoying faggot when he's not on your side.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 10:19:37 2011 No.7284341 Is there any CheatEngine code to allow multiple events in a turn?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 11:03:37 2011 No.7284420 How do I get around this battle effect when fighting CORE where all my attacks get reduced to 0 damage?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 11:33:37 2011 No.7284481 >>7284319 It didn't. Him appearing was very cool. I would've loved to play him in an FFA game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 11:36:37 2011 No.7284489 >>7284319 I don't know he was pretty easy to kill. Plus that white hair loli is mine!

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:17:37 2011 No.7284694

Christ trolls trolling trolls and trolls trolling trolling trolls.

I'm the guy that got the adolf ending and I like the japan route much better even if it's anally fucking me right now. In the adolf route the only japan events that fired automatically were name changes and wish granting while the other 99% of stuff happening was between aeris/hitler/soviets so it just felt like you're this silent underdog that is slowly creeping up on everyone that no one gives a fuck about until you're sieging their captial. However in the japan route there's like an event firing every other turn whether it is just dating the empress or having meetings so you feel like you matter.

As for how to get into adolf route:
What I did was agree to the alliance, and rejected going to war with the soviets. I saw hawaii and lol'd and then reloaded and focused instead on taking aeris. And by luck, the turn that adolf collapses from fatigue I conquered that aeris planet next to the planet that rommel was stationed at. Basically adolf revives from her sickbed because of the news of her japanese allies kicking the shit out of aeris. Then soviet basically gets streamrolled by adolf, and I finished off aeris and gamerica. Core never triggered because I took washington from behind. And then more shit happens and you get adolf ending.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:24:37 2011 No.7284712 English patch coming out today, right?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:30:37 2011 No.7284718

And time does matter. You basically want to take as much planets as fast as possible because getting next gen ships is based on how much planets you have. You either need the gen 3 ships or mika on toga's ship to take hawaii but I wouldn't recommend touching hawaii anyway since it triggers the core shitstorm.

Building the fish thing only gives you a fish unit based on what planet it was. Imo the only good fish unit is the whale that you get if you build one at the monster princess planet. It has a shit ton of hp and requires 0 command points. So it's perfect for your <400 command admirals with an empty ship slot. You want to build a mine in resource rich planets, a lab in research rich planets, and shipyard pretty much everywhere you can. Oh and a +20% experience for female commander early on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:31:37 2011 No.7284721 Daiteikoku > any Rance game Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:32:37 2011 No.7284724 >>7284721 Except for two, genre/gameplay focus is radically different for the rest, making the comparison retarded in the first place. And Daibanchou>Daiteitoku

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:32:49 2011 No.7284723 Where's the download for this game?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:36:37 2011 No.7284731 >>7284721 Kichikuou=Sengoku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Daiteikoku

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:41:37 2011 No.7284740 >>7284724 Daibanchou>Daiteitoku>Rance\|\|Rance>Daibanchou>Daiteitoku\|\|Daiteitoku>Rance>Daibanc hou\|\|Daibanchou>Rance>Daiteitoku\|\|Rance>Daiteitoku>Daibanchou\|\|Daiteitoku>Daibanchou& gt;Rance

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 13:43:37 2011 No.7284746 >>7284740 How about Daiakuji?

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Fri Apr 29 13:50:37 2011 No.7284757 >>7284740 Whichever. More importantly, will there be apocalyptic space warfare or not?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:01:37 2011 No.7284772 >>7284712 English script patch where?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:07:37 2011 No.7284785 can someone plsplspls translate this game :D

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:12:37 2011 No.7284796 This script is funny- well, at least the CORE part. Rapebots are the ones responsible for massacres and rape a la Nanking and the Japanese fleet heroically swoops in and saves all the Gamericans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:28:37 2011 No.7284813 >>7284772 >>7284785 it got released few hours ago already, just google daiteikoku and english patch, it should be among the 5 first results

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:29:37 2011 No.7284816 >>7284813 I DID AND I COULDNT FIND ANYTHING oops sorry caps lol XD

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:31:37 2011 No.7284820

I hope Rance 8 funding doesn't suffer due to shitty sales or something. I heard they put like three times the money into this than any of their previous games because they had to remake it so many times.

It would be cool if they never made this and put all the resources into Rance 8.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:32:37 2011 No.7284823 >>7284820 They really don't need to put many resources into Rance games. It's a series you normally play for the story. I've had several guys from Japan who started playing it from the crappy 5D after all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:33:37 2011 No.7284825 >>7284820 3 times the funding?! Did you see half the character faces? If it was intentional "art direction" it's still a horrible choice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:35:37 2011 No.7284827 >>7284825 Again, the differences in character designs were due to the massive Alicesoft artist army used to make it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:36:37 2011 No.7284828 >>7284825 >3 times the funding?! It doesn't mean all of that funding got used, it just means they wasted a fuck ton of money. IIRC they were going for a real time engine, then scrapped it completely mid-development and rebuilt it turn-based

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:36:37 2011 No.7284829

>>7284825
It was some ridiculous number. That's probably why the reviews are so bad, Alicesoft spent the past couple years hyping this by spouting off how much money and key employees they were putting into it, so everyone was expecting the greatest thing ever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:38:37 2011 No.7284834 >>7284828 >>7284827 This pretty much. All the money was wasting on changing the direction of the game too many times, which is why it feels so unpolished and incomplete. Because they didn't know what they wanted to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:44:37 2011 No.7284853 >>7284827 then it's a pretty horrible choice imo. those derp faces look like they belong in the 90s

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 14:55:37 2011 No.7284881 >>7284853 They should've just stuck with Orion instead, as he's their best artist overall.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:11:37 2011 No.7284918 >>7284834 Alicesoft PR Change and turmoil makes us stronger. Long development times mean that the game will be even better. Reality Development hell and turmoil make us suck, just as they do for everybody else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:28:37 2011 No.7284970 I hope alicesoft stops making games after rance quest

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:30:37 2011 No.7284978 >>7284970 why should they? They make decent games every now and then, I'll take 1 good game every 3 over no games at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:31:37 2011 No.7284982 >>7284970 keyfag detected

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:32:37 2011 No.7284987

>>7284970
What I foresee them doing is rehashing their old popular games and engines as a "return to greatness." It worked wonders for Nintendo. I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest if they rushed out another in the Escalayer/BBH style games or pushed out Daiakuji/BBA 2 where Akuji/Rouga takes on the world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:33:37 2011 No.7284993 >>7284978 You clearly have no idea how much abject trash Alicesoft makes that nobody here even brings up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:38:37 2011 No.7285007 >>7284993 Ok, make that 1 out of 10 then. Point is, they did make a few enjoyable games and wishing for them to go completely bankrupt is just silly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:38:37 2011 No.7285011 Ok, so I just started this. How do I save in this game? There's no save/load menu during the scenes I was in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:40:37 2011 No.7285018 >>7285011 Open the System menu, Padawan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:46:37 2011 No.7285039 File: 129 KB, 804x643, Clipboard02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7285018 This? No save there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:48:37 2011 No.7285045 >>7285039 No, the OTHER System menu, but since you at least tried, you can only save on the map. I don't think I realized before that there are two. Great fucking design, Alicesoft.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:55:37 2011 No.7285062 yeah alicesoft is pretty shit anyone with half a brain acknowledges this

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 15:56:37 2011 No.7285064 Wow. This...this game kinda sucks. I am disappoint, Alicesoft. Most hyped game of the year, and Daiteikoku turns out to be another Daikatana.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 16:00:37 2011 No.7285080 >>7285064 "Alicesoft's about to make you their bitch."

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 16:17:37 2011 No.7285131

Welp. I just played like 10 turns of this game so far.

What pisses me off is this is more of a, remember what happens game. Seriously all I have to do is go into the battle phase, memorize what the fuck the HP and speeds are, then set my ships accordingly.

No other room for error.

Back to Kamidori I guess. :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 16:43:37 2011 No.7285200 Well I'm fucktarded. I just realized that the first icon is not engines like everyone said, it's radar. So that explains what that one girls "Scouting +60%" is for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:16:37 2011 No.7285325 >>7285200 What does scouting/radar do really?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:17:37 2011 No.7285334 >>7285325 Speed

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:26:27 2011 No.7285389 Is this like Daibanchou where there's tons of recruitable characters?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:33:37 2011 No.7285412

>>7285325
>>7285334

In other words, your ships "track and target" the enemy faster, so you get the initiative if you have a higher radar bonus.

Also, those repair ships that heal +10%, is that planet wide or just for the person that they're commanded under?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:35:37 2011 No.7285427 Is there any way to influence who gets attacked? I find that some characters with low "leadership" are useless because their HP is always too low, and they get one-shot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:36:37 2011 No.7285429 File: 785 KB, 1152x648, Topayornottopay.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What did you guys do?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:37:37 2011 No.7285434

>>7285334

Think of the combat system like this:

Each weapon has a "range" so that's why they fire in the order they do. Whoever has the highest "radar" has the biggest accuracy modifier, so they can shoot from the furthest away (as they accelerate towards each other).

As to why it resets at the next round at maximum range; shits and giggles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:38:37 2011 No.7285437 >>7285427 Put them in submarines. As long as the unit only has subs and there are non-sub units still alive in the battlegroup, they can't be attacked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:40:37 2011 No.7285446 >>7285429 What does it say?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:41:37 2011 No.7285451 >>7285389 The recruitable characters is less than DaiBanChou. And there's no 5 character stars to obtain. Most of the upgrades I've seen are in the form of +30 to leadership. I won't say it's bad or good; it's really different.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:45:37 2011 No.7285478 >>7285446 You pay off her debt 10000 res for a 420 leadership character is a good trade, imo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:49:37 2011 No.7285506 What exactly does Command/Leadership do? And why the hell does Tanaka have less than my generics?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:49:37 2011 No.7285507

>>7285429

I say pay unless you're on the japan route where you are hurting for cash and have more than enough admirals. She's a pretty good admiral and you also get the indian boy once you do like 6 events with her.

Seriously, I'm drowning in admirals here. Most of aeris is in my army and the two soviet lolis are chilling in tokyo because they are damn near useless as admirals.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:51:37 2011 No.7285514 File: 42 KB, 371x257, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:52:37 2011 No.7285516 >>7285506 Herpderp never mind. I just figured out for myself. Gives them more ships to work with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:53:37 2011 No.7285520 >>7285514 oops, forgot text Did I read this ability correctly? You rage your opponent into dealing 2x the damage?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 17:53:37 2011 No.7285522 Are there any repercussions of recruiting the Shibagami? He seems to start off pretty well as a second line of offense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:04:37 2011 No.7285550 >>7285520 You inflict double damage when opponents attack you though. I hate it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:10:37 2011 No.7285575 Seriously if you guys like Kamidori fine, I haven't played it but I believe it's a fine game, but for fucks sake let those who are actually enjoying this game discuss it in peace. It's like I am on fucking /v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:11:37 2011 No.7285586 File: 219 KB, 800x600, 大帝国_20110429_181052.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7285506 moe~

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:13:37 2011 No.7285591 >>7285550 HE HATES IT

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:14:37 2011 No.7285595
File: 106 KB, 800x600, 大帝国_20110429_151123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

And so, the tyranny of CORE is brought to justice by your readily and friendly empire of Japan

I love this game so much. Bringing down the child rapists and killers feels like a great achievement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:16:37 2011 No.7285610 I am going to wait till at least some decent guides appear on the wiki, my japanese is fucking horrible and atlas translations are barely understandable

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:16:37 2011 No.7285613 File: 28 KB, 227x400, Daiteikoku-Shibagami-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can't let you do that, Star Hound.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:24:37 2011 No.7285656 >>7285520 >>7285514 Wait, what? The ability on those gunboats makes you take 2x damage?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:29:37 2011 No.7285676 >>7285656 You and your opponent

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:32:37 2011 No.7285691 >>7285613 how many event phases need to be spent on him to recruit this guy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:33:37 2011 No.7285694 >>7285691 Only one

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:34:37 2011 No.7285698 >>7285694 >>7285691 so worth it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:35:37 2011 No.7285703 >>7285698 SO FUCKING WORTH IT

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:36:37 2011 No.7285704 http://brightbell.main.jp/kipima/game/daiteikoku/ japanese wiki

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:36:37 2011 No.7285708 What happens with Rance Khan in this game? Does he die or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:40:37 2011 No.7285723 Man I got depressed when Yamamoto died. It made me more depressed when the buxom nurse is wearing his costume.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:41:37 2011 No.7285727 >>7285723 >Spoilers Welp. Now I know to be careful with him. That sucks. He was my Secretary of Oppression too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:42:27 2011 No.7285731 Other than Rance are there any other other game Alicesoft characters?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:42:37 2011 No.7285733 >>7285727 Opps sorry about that. I assumed everyone would know since the nurse is always with him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:48:37 2011 No.7285748 >>7285727 >>7285723 It seems like the less he is damaged, the longer he will survive. I had him alive until lvl9 (and the levels carried to the nurse instead)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:52:37 2011 No.7285764 >>7285748 How about the bonus attacks? I got the nurse at level 5 and she starts off with +0% bonus for the first 3 frames

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:53:37 2011 No.7285770 >>7285764 Well mine's level 9 and she has 16% bonus for 3 frames

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 18:55:37 2011 No.7285782 >>7285770 I see, just wondering if she inherited the level lower than 5, perhaps she starts off with minus attack or something.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:18:37 2011 No.7285882

What's the quickest way of bringing captured planets to full loyalty (so you get income)? I've been putting the generic admirals with 1 crappy ship all on one planet to try to make one go as fast as possible, but it's still really slow. Will more ships make it go quicker?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:25:37 2011 No.7285910 >>7285429 I did, but I'm cheating money. She has high command points, so it might be worth it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:26:37 2011 No.7285912 >>7284813 What gives? I hate to ask for it, but does anyone have a link to the patch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:28:37 2011 No.7285914 File: 84 KB, 751x618, I am very sad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7285912 forgot the picture.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:36:37 2011 No.7285939 >>7285914 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%E5%A4%A7%E5%B8%9D%E5%9B%BD+%E8%8B%B1%E8%AA%9E%E3%83%91%E3%83%83%E3%83%81

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:48:37 2011 No.7285966 >>7285939 >wowitsfuckingnothing.exe

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:49:37 2011 No.7285970 File: 194 KB, 800x600, 大帝国_20110429_164857.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7285966 mfw you get wiki to the British Empire

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:52:37 2011 No.7285983 It's not a script patch, it just translates the interface and in-game messages. The script should be out tomorrow. Christ, learn some patience.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:53:37 2011 No.7285984 >>7285970 Fuck that Core faggot. He's an asshole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 19:59:37 2011 No.7286005 >>7285984 Yea, I'm so discouraged right now. How many times must I kill them off? AND FUCK the other human nations. While I'm fighting off core, they're dividing my attention on the other side of the universe. Cool script, Alicesoft.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:01:37 2011 No.7286014 >>7286005 >they're dividing my attention on the other side of the universe I was fucking wondering about that too. I lost 3 planets in a process. Shouldn't we bury our hatchet and fight the common enemy? Nope. No such thing in Alicesoft.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:01:37 2011 No.7286015

EGS scores have scared me away from Daiteikoku, but the hype made me want to go back and play Daiakuji and Daibanchou.

Someone, please. How the fuck do I make Daiakuji work? It installs, but I get a message telling me to insert a real disc into the CD drive whenever I start it; if I ignore this and play anyway, the game has no sounds. It's the kind of thing I'd normally look for a NoDVD to fix, but there is none to be found.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:01:37 2011 No.7286019 >>7285939 wtf was that? Nothing still.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:03:37 2011 No.7286026 >>7286015 Why don't you actually try it and form your opinion based on that? Or are you one of those people that thinks Code Geass is the best anime ever because some retards on ANN/MAL voted for it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:07:27 2011 No.7286036 >>7286026 >/jp/ >form your own opinion

>>	wtH !HELLB/V.96 Fri Apr 29 20:08:28 2011 No.7286040 >>7286036 >newfag response >think you've just made an statement.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:09:37 2011 No.7286044

>>7286005

Well the thing is they would literally have to get through you to fight core. Once Soviet kill the germans the only way they can keep expanding is right through your capital. And aeris doesn't go through spain so they would have to destroy you first.

Also mfw when in king core route the only use for female slaves are as decoys.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:09:37 2011 No.7286046 >>7285983 Wait, the english translated script? Fuck yes.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:10:37 2011 No.7286048

>>7286015
Daiakuji is meant to run off a CD and has all kinds of bad programming because of it. The sound is the main issue, but if parts of the config get messed up, it fucks up the whole thing too. The first time I tried installing it, it was fucked beyond belief, then I tried again a few months later and it worked fine minus the sound issues.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:11:37 2011 No.7286050 >>7286005 Speaking of Core, why the fuck do they have penis? I almost burst out laughing when they were raping.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:15:37 2011 No.7286070

>>7286026
Normally, I wouldn't trust review sites, but EGS has a long track record of being at least fairly accurate. There are no bad games above 85 on EGS, and there are no good games below 60 on EGS. Even with the bias against nukige, the good nukige still score in the 70s. Daiteikoku getting a 55 says a lot, especially considering that number is more than likely inflated by first day purchase fanboys. I wouldn't trust EGS to tell me X game is better than Y game because of a difference of a few points, but it's not just a matter of taste when a game consistently gets 50s and 60s.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:17:37 2011 No.7286075

>>7286048
Ya, I can play it if I ignore the sound issues too, but no sound is a deal breaker. What's odd, though, is that I get the boops from clicking menu icons. It's just everything else that's missing. No sound effects, no music, no voices (not sure if it had voices to begin with, though). It just feels really lonely trying to play it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:18:37 2011 No.7286086 Is Rance or a Rance-look-alike in this game?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:19:37 2011 No.7286092 >>7286050 ...yeah. Well, someone has to be the counterpart to WWII's war criminals and Japan's out of the question. If it's androids made in Gamerica, no one would feel affiliated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:21:37 2011 No.7286105 >>7286070 what is egs?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:24:37 2011 No.7286121

>>7286075
You get that with old DOS games that try to load system sounds too.

>>7286070
Look on the bright side, it's up to a mighty 63 now. Just a little more, and it'll pass Shaman's Sanctuary But the details page hasn't updated yet, so you can't see if it's just a bunch of "99wwwwww"s again like the ones before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:26:37 2011 No.7286130 Oh god.. goddamn Aeris got that flying dragon. Any tips to kill that dragon?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:26:37 2011 No.7286131

>>7286070
It got a lower score than Shaman Sanctuary. No way that's accurate.

And besides, there's way too few data. You really shouldn't trust EGS rating when it has less than 100 votes.

Wait until the people that actually played the game to vote on it. I believe it's going to end up in the 70s-low 80s score.

I can't really see it scoring higher than that because of the retarded battle phase that promotes savescumming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:29:37 2011 No.7286144 >>7286121 >>7286131 What is Shaman Sanctuary and why is it so bad?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:29:37 2011 No.7286145 >>7286131 If it went that high, it would be one of the top 5 Alicesoft games on EGS. The Japanese don't score like Americans where anything under a 9 means a niche title.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:30:37 2011 No.7286148 >>7286131 >I wouldn't trust EGS to tell me X game is better than Y game because of a difference of a few points Did you miss this line he wrote? Fact is, it's still within the point range it deserves to be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:31:37 2011 No.7286157 >>7286144 http://tenka.seiha.org/2010/11/shamans-sanctuary-is-bloody-terrible/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:32:37 2011 No.7286158 >>7286148 And? I'm telling there's way too few data to make that judgement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:33:37 2011 No.7286165 >>7286158 Well I don't really see how people will all of a sudden give more points than 50-60 upon completing the game when the gameplay stays just the same throughout. I really doubt it's going to raise above than 70

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:35:37 2011 No.7286169

>>7286158
And he's saying that almost always, scores are initially inflated with popular votes, so it's very reasonable to expect that the score's going to drop, not go up as the non-rabid fans finish it.
And now comes the spurious argument about expectations being too high.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:36:37 2011 No.7286176 File: 69 KB, 476x306, 1303084878263.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7286157 >Dual says: >December 1, 2010 at 5:08 pm >Alicesoft mid-budget games are rarely good. Their next big hit will be Dai Teikoku.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:36:37 2011 No.7286178 Why is Alicesoft so fucking xenophobic? They're the only H-company I know that blocks foreign IPs from entering their website. Not even rape masters Illusion or Black Lilith do the same.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:38:37 2011 No.7286189 >>7286178 >They're the only H-company I know that blocks foreign IPs from entering their website. Heh, someone is living a sheltered life, I see.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:39:37 2011 No.7286190 >>7286178 There are a few others that have started doing it recently, but I can't remember which off the top of my head. Useless to say, I know, but they are out there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:39:37 2011 No.7286194 >>7286165 >>7286169 Not really, the vote distribution is all over the place. The game is polarizing. It's not like everyone voted 60. I think it's going to go up, once the shitstorm died down and people that actually played the game vote on it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:41:37 2011 No.7286205 >>7286189 >sheltered life Sheltered from Eroge yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:41:37 2011 No.7286206 File: 172 KB, 800x600, 大帝国_20110428_033458.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7286178 >Why is Alicesoft so fucking xenophobic? I really wish people would shut the fuck up about this already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:43:37 2011 No.7286218 >>7286070 >EGS has a long track record of being at least fairly accurate Yeah, no. The fact that they rated FSN at 90 speaks worlds about how shit their tastes are.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:44:37 2011 No.7286222

>>7286178
>Why is Alicesoft so fucking xenophobic?
They are NOT xenophobic. If you play this game, though, you'll easily understand why they have slapped a fat "JAPAN SALES ONLY" disclaimer in front of it.
We really don't need another Rapelay incident. It's not worth the risk for them.

That is the same as why I can see why doujin shops will rarely ship overseas, but HATE IT at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:45:37 2011 No.7286229 >>7286194 Maybe you should look at the vote distribution on EGS before making asinine and incorrect claims.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:45:37 2011 No.7286232 >>7286218 The fact that you brought F/SN up just proves that they have good taste, as F/SN is highly enjoyable and deserves 90+.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:45:37 2011 No.7286233 >>7286206 Well, you COULD argue that's xenophobic, since they convey the message that foreigners badmouth Japanese for their penis size.......which many actually do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:47:37 2011 No.7286244 >>7286233 So wait, if the game portrays foreigners as racist scums, that means Alicesoft is xenophobic?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:47:37 2011 No.7286246 >>7286232 >>>/a/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:47:37 2011 No.7286249 File: 130 KB, 1039x576, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maybe "xenophobic" was too harsh of a word seeing as the automated defense reaction by saying it. And regarding "Japan Sales Only", I think almost every game has that anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:48:37 2011 No.7286253 >>7286244 No. That portrays foreigners being generalized as racist and Japan being the poor victim of the racism. Therefore... racist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:50:37 2011 No.7286261 File: 14 KB, 143x311, dai-vote.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7286229 ... This is not polarizing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:50:37 2011 No.7286262 >>7286253 Why the fuck do you care what some random Japanese think of foreigners? Last I checked, we aren't weeaboos like /a/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:50:37 2011 No.7286265 >>7286218 I said fairly accurate. FSN is a good game, even if it doesn't deserve a 90.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:51:37 2011 No.7286268 >>7286249 US games have that hidden on them somewhere too. It's just covering their asses in case something is illegal in an non-official distributor company. See: Fallout 2, Britain, and child violence. Plus taxes, copyright, licensing and shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:52:37 2011 No.7286271 >>7286206 I don't even understand why rapelay was a big deal. it was just some women's interest group bitching not an legitimiate political party right?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:52:37 2011 No.7286272

>>7286253
So if the Japanese faction was the racist one in the game, would you not call Alicesoft xenophobic scums(actually many did this)? What if the other nations weren't racist and only Japan was? You would condemn Alicesoft for adding racial and nationalist bullshit in the game. I swear to god some of you cry about everything Japan does. Lay it off already, you can't be this butthurt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:52:37 2011 No.7286274 >>7286261 BELL CURVES HOW THE FUCK DO THEY WORK

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:52:37 2011 No.7286277 >>7286262 He's a Chinese/Korean. They always care what the japs do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:53:37 2011 No.7286282 >>7286262 Last time I checked /jp/ people were getting mocked about using Atlas and not using their innate Japanese skills to get through H games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:54:37 2011 No.7286287 >>7286271 Yes. Just a woman's group. I wonder why Japan don't protest too much about rape.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:55:37 2011 No.7286293 >>7286274 Standard deviation of 26 is very high, actually, but most new games are like that just because of low number of votes. I say most because Kamidori's is 7. Everyone agrees that game is amazing.

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:56:38 2011 No.7286296

>>7286265
>FSN is a good game
Credibility lost. FSN is to VNs what Bleach is to anime: retards that don't know shit about the medium think it's amazing, but people that aren't completely fucking ignorant see how painfully bad the characters and story actually are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:57:38 2011 No.7286299 >>7286282 There are people who still don't know Japanese on /jp/? I thought we scared off everyone who wasn't around since pre-split /a/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:58:38 2011 No.7286303 >>7286293 Yes, but on the other hand, the outliers are almost perfectly balanced. 99 and 95 on high, and two 10s on low. Remove those and the StD collapses.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:58:38 2011 No.7286306 >>7286296 >bleach index would be more accurate

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:58:38 2011 No.7286308 >>7286296 I hate to use this word, but you are the fucking master, king, and overlord of hipsters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:59:38 2011 No.7286312 >>7286296 Go back to /a/, kid. While F/sn might not be better than some games in that 90 list like Muramasa or MLA, it's still an enjoyable game and doesn't require much to give a 90+ point for it. This coming from someone who vote it 8/10.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 20:59:38 2011 No.7286313 >>7286299 Did you suddenly just step through time or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:00:38 2011 No.7286317 I believe we all agree the viking princess was awesome. So what is her special ability?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:01:38 2011 No.7286320 >>7286262 >>7286299 Welp. Elitist weeabooism detected. Back to my Daiteikoku to fuck up the Hawaiians.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:02:38 2011 No.7286323 Thread's autosaging. I can't wait to see what fresh disaster the next one brings. Hopefully more made up shit from people who suck at it like how using the ninja locks out New Game+ bonuses.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:02:38 2011 No.7286326 >>7286312 >likes FSN >tells other people to go back to /a/. You're cute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:04:38 2011 No.7286334 >>7286326 >He saged an autosage thread Oh wow, kid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:06:38 2011 No.7286342 If someone is going to start a new thread, please don't forget to put "full English patch is going to be released next Sunday/Monday" into the OP or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:09:38 2011 No.7286359 >>7286342 Full English patch is already out, you just have to compile it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:12:38 2011 No.7286376 >>7286359 Yeah, that would work too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:28:38 2011 No.7286426 >>7286359 >>7286376 This is my new favorite game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 21:28:38 2011 No.7286427 >>7286359 BUT I'M LAZYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 30 06:06:38 2011 No.7287728 You guys have to be joking about the translation patch How the fuck would anyone be able to translate all this shit so fast?

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