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A place for discussion of Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON works.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - WITCH ON THE HOLY NIGHT
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2052410/WITCH_ON_THE_HOLY_NIGHT/
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru Short Story):
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/An-Adventure-of-First-Love.html
Witch on the Holy Night Material
https://tri-hermes.org/Materials/The_Magicians_Basic_Rhythm.html

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novels (Japanese):
https://yonde.itazuraneko.org/novelhtml/12276.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Anime:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime Complete Pack (Tsukihime, PLUS+DISC, Kagetsu Tohya):
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Tsukihime OG Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1591168
Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn
Tsukihime Plus Period - Talk
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/talk.html
Tsukihime II Prelude
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/prelude.html

>MELTY BLOOD: Hologram Summer, Night on the Blood Liar.
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (Original + ReACT + Act Cadenza + Actress Again Current Code):
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MELTY BLOOD Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
MELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Tsukihime Remake
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://nyaa.si/view/1691072
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://nyaa.si/view/1732011
Fate/zero (Japanese)
https://pastebin.com/33E3XfDB
Garden of Avalon
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/GoA.html
Fate/strange Fake
https://www.tumblr.com/humbertozero/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read

>Fate/EXTRA
Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack/
Fate/EXTRA CCC
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-ccc-jpn/

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/notes.html
Clock Tower 2015:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/clocktower2015.html
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Tsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moon:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/tsuki-no-sango.html
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
BAMBOO BROOM DIARY (Nasu and Takeuchi blog)
https://tri-hermes.org/bamboo.html
Carnival Phantasm (Anime made in celebration of Type-Moon's 10th anniversary)
https://nyaa.si/view/550820
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Materials
https://tri-hermes.org/materials.html
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca

>> No.46905750

Tsukihime Red Garden When?

>> No.46905956

Release order:

1996-12-18 - 魔法使いの夜 Mahoutsukai no Yoru (Manuscript)
1998-10 - 空の境界 Kara no Kyoukai
1999-05-04 - Angel Voice
2000-12-29 - 月姫 Tsukihime
2001-08-13 - 歌月十夜 Kagetsu Tohya
2002-12-30 - メルティブラッド Melty Blood
2003-04-29 - 月箱 Tsuki-Bako (released to mark the end of TYPE-MOON's 4 years' activity as a doujin group, prior to the group's transition into a commercial company)

2004-01-30 - Fate/stay night (Game)
2005-03-29 - Melty Blood Act Cadenza
2005-10-28 - Fate/hollow ataraxia
2006-12-29 - Fate/Zero (Light Novel)
2007-01-01 - DDD 1
2007-02-22 - Fate/stay tune
2007-04-19 - Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua] (PlayStation 2)
2007-08-10 - DDD 2
2008-06-11 - Fate/unlimited codes
2008-08-22 - Sound Drama Fate/Zero
2008-08-28 - Fate/tiger colosseum UPPER
2008-09-19 - Melty Blood Actress Again
2009-01-29 - Fate/Zero -Radio Material-
2009-10-16 - Fate/stay tune UNLIMITED RADIO WORKS
2010-01-23 - Fate/stay night UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS
2010-07-22 - Fate/EXTRA
2011-05-10 - Koha-Ace
2011-06-10 - Himuro no Tenchi Fate/school life
2011-08-14 - Carnival Phantasm
2011-10-02 - Fate/Zero (Anime)
2011-10-13 - Tsuki no Sango
2011-12-31 - Fate/Prototype
2012-04-12 - Witch on the Holy Night
2012-11-29 - Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua] (PlayStation Vita)
2013-01-25 - Sound Drama Fate/EXTRA
2013-03-28 - Fate/EXTRA CCC
2013-06-26 - Fate/kaleid liner PrismaNight!
2013-07-06 - Fate/kaleid liner PrismaIllya (Anime)
2013-07-10 - Fate/Prototype: Sougin no Fragments
2013-07-13 - Fate/Zero Cafe
2013-07-22 - Fate/EXTRA Tsukumihara Gakuen Housoubu
2014-10-04 - Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works]
2015-01-10 - Fate/strange Fake
2015-03-25 - Fate/stay night Garden of Avalon
2015-07-30 - Fate/Grand Order
2016-11-10 - Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star
2017-10-14 - Fate/stay night [Heaven's Feel]
2018-01-28 - Fate/EXTRA Last Encore
2021-08-26 - TSUKIHIME -A piece of blue glass moon-
2021-09-30 - MELTY BLOOD: TYPE LUMINA

>> No.46906076

>>46905750
>>46905956
You get Fate route rewritten by Nasu! But the rewrite pushes back Red Garden to 2030.

Will you make the trade?

>> No.46906285

>>46905956
Fate/Requiem, Fate/Lost Einherjar, Fate/Samurai Remnant

>> No.46907067

is it possible to just download an english patch ?

>> No.46908326

red garden doko

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>> No.46910171

Archer’s sword. In my mouth.

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>>46910171
That's kinda gay, anon.

>> No.46910476

>>46910180
Anon is probably gay

>> No.46910584

>>46904688
How much sex do you think they had?

>> No.46910585

>>46910476
My condolences.

>> No.46910591

>>46910584
Zero.

>> No.46910641
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>>46910476
Stop being gay.

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Damn, Hisui is a freak. It's always the quiet ones.

>> No.46910661

>>46910641
Stop posting cat pictures and I will stop being gay. Oh wait you can’t.

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>>46910661
Are you a top, or a bottom? I'm curious.

>> No.46911025

>>46910745
Why not both?

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>>46911025
I'm not saying you can't be both. So is that it? You and your boyfriend take turns when in bed? How do you decide? Do you flip a coin? rock/paper/scissors, perhaps? I'm not gay, so I don't really know these things.

>> No.46911675

>>46910745
>>46911179
Dumb fujo
Boys love is not a science

>> No.46911700

Foursome between Shiki, Miyako, Mio and Akiha

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Threesome between Shiki, Miyako and DA Noel

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>>46911675
>Boys love is not a science
If it can be analyzed, it's a science.

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>> No.46911931

>>46906076
Modern Nasu rewriting the Fate route would be an absolute travesty

>> No.46911949

>>46906076
fuck no.

>> No.46911954

>>46911931
Shirou, did I ever tell you about how Excalibur was forged by 3 lazy fairies thousands of years ago as the ultimate anti-alien weapon to defeat a titan from outer space that was spawned by a meteor supercomputer? They were good friends.

>> No.46911969

>>46911954
>Oberon flashback
Would you clap?

>> No.46912156

>>46905956
2000 - 2008 were the golden years

>> No.46912166

>>46911931
It wouldn't be that bad if we look at how he handle Arc route.
Though, it's not worth pushing Red Garden to 2030

>> No.46912274

>>46910745
>Ciel poster is a fujo... or a fellow fag
LOL.

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>>46912274
lol

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So how exactly is the Mahoyo collab's timeline supposed to work? Generally it goes like Mahoyo - KnK - Tsukihme - F/SN. So why is Shirou an old man in 1999 if he should be like 11-12? The Ryougis make no sense if they're not even married in 1999 (so they shouldn't have a grown up Mana with them either). Hell, Caren and Bazett are outright said to be real, but it'd make Caren what,10? And there's not even "it's all a dream" or "Aoko's bullshit fucked up the timeline this bad" explanation.

>> No.46912767

>>46912711
Shirou is not the Shirou from Fate.
He is basically Mahoyo version of Shirou who happens to be an old man. (Nasu, for some weird reasons, is fascinated with old man Shirou)

>> No.46912801

>>46912767
Mahoyo version of Shirou would still have to be born at the same time as "normal" Shirou, same as El-Melloi II and all his versions, same as literally everyone.

>> No.46912834

>>46912801
That's the problem. Those El-Melloi versions come from Fate-adjacent worlds.
Mahoyo Shirou doesn't experience the destruction of the grail nor have the Emiya last name. The only thing they share in common is design and first name. By the time of the Mahoyo collab, it is mentioned that Mahoyo Shirou already went through his adventure which made no sense with Fate timelines since he would be way older than Fate Shirou.

>> No.46912838

people with the same gene combinations existing in timelines with significant differences that go back very far is pretty implausible to begin with
butterfly effect goes hard
>>46912711
>Don't think about it
- Nasu, probably
>>46912801
not necessarily

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>> No.46913072

>>46912801
no, Nasuverse has adopted comicslop universe rules where characters can be born in whatever year and setting the writer wants them to be born. FGO Kiara also has a different year of birth for example.

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What made FSN so special?

>> No.46913343

Lugh didn't kill a DAA right? He just didn't die or lose against one somehow? Isn't there a mention of this in strange fake that they had a fight that caused some collateral or something?

Is there a script book for Mahoyo or something? I read people saying it's mentioned Soujuurou moved and processed faster than Lugh could and was physically faster than him but the scene doesn't portray that at all? Touko even says Lugh could have just run him down or reacted if he realized he was being attacked. Lugh was still able to run through what happened afterwards. Though the initial hit seemed to rattle his awareness a bit from surprise.

Am I missing something here? I'm seeing people saying Soujuurou used superhuman strength but it seemed to be shown as a normal human's strength... of course normal is relative in TM but it was a feeble human vs werewolf. It was skill that let him focus his strength on Beo's heart and create a weakness that his following sloppy use of strength could exploit. Beo psyched himself out basically?

Is there a jp script .txt for this? I read the JP had Touko mention Lugh could have been killed for real if Soujuurou crushed his skull and Beo took too long to regen and this was omitted in the translation? Why were they treating it like a graze and that if he had more experience he could have just gotten up and eaten Soujuurou.

>> No.46913442

>>46912711
It's not the Mahoyo timeline so who cares? You have characters making KnK-esque references despite it not being KnK chronology. Shirou who went on Fate-Adventures so how could it be Mahoyo? Aoko who doesn't have power over dimensional travel getting to Chaldea on her own(not summoned), Ryougi actually being Void, Caren age not making much sense is true since it means she's completely random which is unusual since we see Tsuki characters like Sion sharing age changes to match Tsuki and
>>46912834
There is an El-Melloi II in Tsuki. We don't know his age but... I doubt it's any different. Same with Fate Roa and Nero and so on and so forth.
>>46912838
Just don't think about it.

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>> No.46913529

>>46913343
How can Soujuurou be faster than Lugh if Touko says Lugh has the reflexes to dodge him if he recognized that he was being attacked? The message here is Lugh didn't even register him as a threat to evade. The translation isn't that bad is it?

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>> No.46913539

>>46913343
The western TM fanbase unironically believes that living on mountains gives you superpowers due to terrible translations of interviews and misunderstanding of Japanese memes and absolutely refuse to change their mind on it. It's like how 20 years later people still bring up the wrong nickname for Touko.
>read the JP had Touko mention Lugh could have been killed for real if Soujuurou crushed his skull and Beo took too long to regen and this was omitted in the translation?
never happened

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>> No.46913609

>>46913539
Can you even kill Lugh for real? Isn't he an elemental? If you manage to crush his brain or something or kill him by cutting his head off wouldn't he just reform similar to Arc or Yu Meiren?

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>> No.46913822

>>46913343
How does Lugh compare to Vlov? He doesn't seem impressive at all but somehow he and an Elder Title DAA wrecked each other?

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>>46912356
old and smelly fr*nch hag

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unf

>> No.46914021

>>46913822
We know nothing about the fight. Maybe DA was low on blood, maybe he was mostly mage build and lugh is pretty much immune to magecraft. It's better to stick to actual on screen feats. Imagine if Tsukihime was off screen story and Shiki is introduced in some post tsukihime novel as someone who killed Arcueid, without any context.

>> No.46914050

>>46912274
>fellow fag
>fellow

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why it tm so homo erotic

>> No.46914064

>>46913017
I hope we get many scenes of her without the jacket

>> No.46914083

>>46913822
From what I understand of Beo's description in Mahoyo he is in a state similar to the end goal of third magic. His body is not actually physical at all and he can change it at will. Just imagine a giant dino that also resists mysteries younger than himself.

>> No.46914084

>>46913823
Joke's on you. I'm in to older women.

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>>46912700

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cuge

>> No.46914232

>>46914189
RIP ;_;

>> No.46914362

>>46914021
Good point.
>>46914083
He is. Doesn't this make him immortal? Why is he freaking out? Can he actually be killed physically? He shouldn't even need a body...?

Here is another question. Reading the scene it says that Lugh can tank a blow from a canon if he shifts into the correct form. It also emphasizes that Lugh didn't consider Soujuurou a threat. Does this mean his werewolf form can't actually tank that?

Touko later on says "who would have thought a beast, able to withstand a shot from a tank, would be felled by a mere human" and that he has steel like fur. I don't think you need a tank shell to get through steel but... does his werewolf form actually provide that level of defense or is it just generally saying he's that kind of creature but retarded and so didn't consider that Soujuurou's "meager strength" could do anything to him even in a lesser defensive form?

On Soujuurou's attack. It reads like he just delivered an attack that did nothing but made Lugh think it did something and that's what created a weakness in Lugh's invincibility and so the followup could do something to the now imperfect Lugh. It didn't seem to cause any actual damage to his chest but Lugh felt a small impact to his heart? Is this like that anime trope where you focus your energy on one point to apply damage through armor into the body's organs? So all in all more of a skill feat. It still must have been pretty strong though to get that impact through to his heart even if it cost him his life. It was like breaking the human safety mechanism that keeps you from hurting yourself in your attacks so he destroyed himself to hit a bit above his weight class it seems like.

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>>46914021
>maybe he was mostly mage build and lugh is pretty much immune to magecraft
This still makes no sense because the two known Elder Titles (Van Fem and Ortenrosse) are mage from the AoG, and Beo is only said to be immune to modern magecraft.
But like you said, we can't say anything without context.

>> No.46914704

>>46914566
It doesn't make much sense since DA use powers often anyway which has nothing to do with magecraft lmao. Maybe the vampire was low on blood or some context/circumstance we don't know existed.

It doesn't seem like Beo killed one as the league is still around as per Tsuki but he remained undefeated. Beo doesn't show anything on par with Vlov from what I see. He's basically an anti-mage being. The only thing that comes to mind is his transformative capabilities let him adapt to his enemy and possibly gain characteristics enough to put up a fight. Something he doesn't really show the extent of in Mahoyo since he's not dealing with anything threatening.

>> No.46914839

>>46914566
Isn't Rizo also an Elder Title? Wonder who the other 2 are.

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>> No.46916055

>>46904688
Can't find the translated pages of the HF manga. Mangadex dipped out with the latest chapter being 7

>> No.46916253

>>46915879
Best sex scene, shame we didn't get other lolis sex scenes

>> No.46917008

>>46911969
No. LB6 sucked.

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First for Ayako

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>> No.46917952

>>46917362
How fast is he? Something about 35 miles in 10 minutes? Not sure where that's from.

>> No.46918199

>>46913904
Which F/SN manga is this from? Maybe I should read it..

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MESSATSU........

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>> No.46918576

>>46918572
I need to bury my face between those thighs

>> No.46918588

>>46918576
You and me both, brother.

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>> No.46918884

>>46913149
Nasu actually tried and he wasn't restricting by a retarded medium or trying to cope by writing whogivesafuck lore shit.

>> No.46919107

>>46918884
>whogivesafuck lore shit
I couldn't care any less about that shit, but there are people here who clearly do.

>> No.46919112

I wonder if tmg cares about lore.

>> No.46919189

>>46919112
nah I don't give a fuck

>> No.46919359

Does /tmg/ care about "What did X mean by this?" posts?

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>>46919112
no

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>> No.46921055

>>46919112
No its worthless and acts like more a crutch for TM

>> No.46921325

>>46919112
i think it's neat and care about it until it does something immensely stupid. like how in fgo they revealed the greek gods were originally sentient alien starships from another universe. fucking retarded.

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>> No.46923104

>>46921325
Let's just hope that Tsuki lore remain normal

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How many footfags are there in Typemoon?

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>>46923653
Len gives the best footjobs.

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Thread is extra slow this weekend....

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>> No.46925839

>>46923768
>no Illya route with sex scenes
>no Medea Lily with sex scenes
We getting Len sex scenes was a miracle

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Please...I need Red Garden so bad...

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>> No.46927155

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NASU CHAN YES YOUR ASSS YOUR ASSSSSSSS AAAAAAAAAA

WORLD PREMIERE IUP YOUR ASS NASU CHAN

FUCKING HER ASS YES ASSSSSSSSSSSS

WORLD PREMIERE OD IN HER ASSS

HER ASS FULL OF EXCLUSIVE SEMEN

NASU'S EXCLUSIVE SEMEN DUMPTRUCK ASS

WORLD PREMIERE MY DICK NASU CHAN

IM COOMMINGGGGG AAAGAGDSAGDUAJYDGJWGDGJAD FUCK YEA TAKE MY SEMAN NASU CHAN OF THE YEAR 2024

THE SPONSERSSSSSS

THE SPOOOOOOONSEEEEEEEEEEEERSSSS IN THE ASSSSSSS

CUMMING ON YOUR OLD LADY FACE NASU YESSS COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

AND THE SEMEN OF THE YEAR GOES TO NAAAASU OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFUCKAAUGHJT9048538734O95436

MY FRIENDU NASU-AUGH

*falls asleep next to nasu chan in bed*

>> No.46927298

>>46926532
I want this so badly

>> No.46927750

>>46927155
Takeuchi...

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>> No.46928134

What are some valid criticisms of Nasu's world building and character writing?

>> No.46928162

>>46928134
Why would you ask this?

>> No.46928236

>>46928162
He wants to post it on leddit. Same boring ass npc questions

>> No.46928394

>>46928134
The Dead Apostle Ancestors. All we know about most of them is that they're insanely powerful

>> No.46928406

>>46928394
You don't need more.

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Now, that's a death threat...

>> No.46928783

>>46928753
He can in fact move during the day. He'd just be weakened. Strong vampires have overcome the sun.

>> No.46929889

>>46928134
That he just puts shit from the latest type of media he consumed and puts it into his universe like a 12 year old writing fanfiction would.
Recently I learned that he got all his lore for reality marbles and worlds shaped by perception from a Japan exclusive 90s tabletop game that was trying to be Japanese world of darkness.

>> No.46929897

>>46929889
I also do this so it's based btw.

>> No.46930070

>>46929897
based! based on other works.

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>>46928394
>All we know about most of them is that they're insanely powerful

Van-fem apearesd in Lord Elmeloi II LN
Merem Solomon joied Church Burial Agency
Be'ze,Zaria,Vlov,Castle,Einnashe dead/captured. Two that were sealed by the Church.

6 ancestors dead

There are 21 dead apostle ancestors in Tsuki world

>> No.46931377

I was going to ask
>can a non-Master mage become a Master to an orphaned Servant?
then I remembered Kuzuki

>> No.46931434

Holy shit, the gook is back. I thought he fucking died months ago.

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>>46928134
The Nasuverse isn't a real shared universe. However he writes lore and supplementary material as if they are. He's conditioned the brain dead parts of the fanbase to always discuss concepts and characters who have never had a meaningful appearance or interaction outside garbage side material or fgo but then goes on to treat those as more important than the main work where they spawned from where none of the BS is relevant.

>> No.46931732

>>46928134
Obsession with aliens and mecha

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>> No.46933966

>>46933125
How would a Shiki-Akiha duo work like in combat?

>> No.46934174

>>46933966
>Akiha kills at long range
>Anything that can get close gets killed by Shiki since getting in close with Shiki is a death sentence
If talking about Fighting Game like Maids...
Could be interesting. Could make Akiha stronger at range and Shiki a beast up close with better frames. Give Akiha better zoning capabilities. Probably make the tag a bit harder to manage to balance it. Shiki dropping in from the sky using a Nanaya fall. Akiha reversal is just Shiki DPing and character switching. Shared install that causes V.Akiha and Nanaya.

>> No.46934893

>>46933125
>POV you're SHIKI about to be beaten into submission

>> No.46935379

>>46928134
Lore bloat that doesn't amount to anything anymore. He'll tease cool lore, concepts or namedrops stuff that will never be meaningfully deliberated on, and he does it so often is just becomes white noise and it feels like he's just saying shit for the mere sake of it. This plus >>46931467 makes for a perfectly obnoxious combo of bizarre worldbuilding

>> No.46935433

>>46935379
>He'll tease cool lore, concepts or namedrops stuff that will never be meaningfully deliberated on
Examples? TsukiR and Mahoyo for example are incomplete works with more parts.
I assume by this "will never be elaborated on" you're referring to those concepts that have designated as set up for future sequels.

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>>46935433
That's a bad excuse, he's had a decade, almost two decades, to elaborate on this.
And then we get a remake starting at square one.

>> No.46935492

>>46928134
>Nasu's world building
he cant stick to any concepts he's written. he constantly retcons stuff he'd just created because he has no self control. see letting Urobuchi do whatever the fuck he wanted despite going directly against what Nasu had written in FSN.

there's a reason why he had to go the hack fraud route of "le multiple universes/timelines" despite being the sole contributor to the world's lore.

>> No.46935525

>>46935492
>letting Urobuchi do whatever the fuck he wanted despite going directly against what Nasu had written in FSN.
nta
quick rundown?
I read FSN but I've only seen bits of other stuff

>> No.46936601

>>46925853
Never ever for our dear Sacchin.

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>>46936601
Why was she done so dirty?
She's strong enough of a character to carry a route. So why must Sacchin be shafted like this?

>> No.46936746

>>46936601
Kill yourself doomposter.

>> No.46937328

>>46936618
Maybe Nasu hates her. From the little bit that they talked about it on the plus disc, it sounds really good. The art was cute too. It will be neat to see what, if anything, from that gets used in the remake.

>>46936746
You first. Show me how it is done and I will follow.

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>>46936618
Shiki said she is his type and the only reason they're not dating yet is that he thinks he would ruin her happy life. In her route after her life gets ruined by vampirism it'll non stop sex as Shiki has no excuse anymore.

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>> No.46938188

>>46935525
mainly letting urobuchi use real people for servants and contradicting what was established for the 4th war in FSN.

>> No.46939223

I hope Nasu give us ALL the lore about the Tohno Clan in Red Garden

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>> No.46941238

I refuse to believe that Archer and Lancer didn’t fuck at least once.

>> No.46941280

>>46941238
>fujo
no

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>>46941238
He took him by surprise

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>>46941377

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>>46941377
>repuest

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>>46941238
Stop being gay.

>> No.46941780

>>46941659
>He never repuested anything
Fag

>> No.46941991

>>46941377
>>46941402
This is spicy. True Tsukichand to capture the vibe going on here.

>> No.46942158

>>46941377
>>46941402
This is the type of art that should be posted on /tmg/

>> No.46942168

>>46941991
>>46942158
Die

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>>46936618
>>46937680
Do you think Satsuki will still kill innocent people in her route when she first becomes a vampire? And Shiki, having a moral quandary to kill her or not, eventually instead aims for her redemption (kind of like Sakura)? Or do you think her hanging out with Shiki will get her to refrain from the vampirism quickly like Sion and won't kill innocents?

Also controversially I've made it clear before how much I dislike the Remake designs but Satsuki is a massive exception, I think she's completely a glow up. She's so cute.

>> No.46943506

>>46943195
Shiki and Satsuki become vampires and kill everybody.

>> No.46944138

>>46942168
Loli site

>> No.46944334

>>46913343
Lugh and Touka go against Roz and her train. Touka kill DDA or made her run off in a fecal pile. Don't know what the dog was doing, but he must have stopped the train or caused significant damage to it . Maybe wolfman also fought some old apostle, but it should be understood that in the novel it was written that he had never encountered martial arts, so he fought against mageshit

>> No.46944473

>>46944334
Pretty sure nothing is said as to what happens during their encounters in Tsuki world/Mahoyo. Rita for example is certainly still alive since France and Arach's Mosaic so Touko and Lugh didn't kill her. We know at the least in Fate that the train was destroyed for a time and in SF Lugh and an Elder fought presumably to a tie? No details actually exist for context of any of these though as far as I know.

I don't remember where it was said Lugh never experienced martial arts. Got a screen? Thanks.

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Why is Bazett like this?

>> No.46944606

>>46944570
You just KNOW

>> No.46944631

>>46944570
those poor defenceless women

>> No.46944735

I knew that kiss woke up something in her.

>> No.46944748

Last thread got me thinking, is there any definitive way to read the KNK light novels in English? Unless I'm missing it, there isn't a complete English translation anywhere, and the two translations that do exist have problems or are incomplete. Would I be better off mtl-ing the thing? I'd really like to read these, but I don't know enough Japanese to reliably read the original.

>> No.46944761

>>46944748
My bad, the Empty boundaries TL is complete, but from what I've heard it has issues, so my point still stands.

>> No.46944767

>>46944748
>read [. . .] in English
no

>> No.46944958

>>46944570
Will she show up in Tsukihime stories?
>>46944334
>>46944473
I think Lugh just underestimated hoomans. He fucks mages and he didn't perceive Shizuki as a threat. He could have just continued his charge through Shizuki to kill him or transformed into a better shape but he got baited and busted up like a brat. Lugh doesn't really have exploitable flaws until he gets punched and is no longer invulnerable, with the exception of being a child. His introduction to fear makes him weaker but also 'alive' now. I can only imagine shapeshifting lets him take forms far more busted than anything we see from him. No other way he survives the magical power or curse of a strong DA based on his shown capabilities imo.

>> No.46945026

>>46944958
>Will she show up in Tsukihime stories?
Why would she?

>> No.46945035

>>46945026
Was supposed to be a Tsuki 2 character with Caren whose by all accounts going to appear in an important position.

>> No.46945050

>>46945035
Thanks.

>> No.46945398

>>46945035
Tsukihime 2 is never happening

>> No.46945452

>>46945398
It might...

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>>46945035
Caren already targets Shiki in all around TM

>> No.46945518

>>46945494
Onee-san Caren....

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I'm not even halfway through Mahoyo, but I've already taken like 70 screenshots, mostly of Aoko. I really like Aoko.

>> No.46946174

>>46946153
aoko bows to guda cock btw

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>>46946174
I don't care. She's cute.

>> No.46946365

>>46945452
The magic of TM "might"
All their success and sales for VNs and all they've mustered is a gacha and bad half canon Fate games. No its never happening. Nasu is a pussy who never does real commitment. He has never done a real sequel without his wretched le multiverse but le it's canon but also vague shit.

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It's been 20 years. Can we say which girl is the best for fixing Shirou's mental illness?

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>> No.46946542

>>46946504
Nah give it 20 more years

>> No.46946572

>>46944570
You can only survive having sex with, at maximum, three Cú Chulainns.

>> No.46946964

>>46945494
What's Caren's age in Tsuki remake?

>> No.46946968

>>46946153
Big forehead

>> No.46946975

>>46946572
Or one Berserker Cu

>> No.46947013

>>46946975
He'd sink his teeth into your neck/shoulder as he climaxes and you'd quickly bleed out as he succumbs to post-nut clarity and leaves you to die in your own blood and sweat.

>> No.46947307

>>46947013
Women want all of that. Society tells them they don’t.

>> No.46947551

>>46946964
Whatever age Nasu wants her to be.

>> No.46947778

>>46947307
Women want to be mauled and ravaged by dogs?

>> No.46949321

>>46928783
Define "strong". Even Sion and Satsuki can move during the day as seen in the MB manga so why even put that rule in the first place.

>> No.46949517

https://youtu.be/-Axx2XNWiBo?si=_TUUe5z4yHdKaZLZ

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Can Remake Arc do stuff like this?

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Can Arcueid poop?

>> No.46949888

>>46949659
If she eats, she poops. What goes in must come out sooner or later.

>> No.46949985

>>46949659
Go back to /a/ Luffy

>> No.46950093

>>46949888
Food gets converted into magical energy/ether, it's just the amount is so insignificant it's almost worthless. Human blood has higher nutritional value but it's mostly a psychological need.
We're talking about someone who can change her body to become more temperature resistant. She certainly doesn't need to expel waste.

>> No.46950205

>>46949659
I asked this same question about the elves in middle-earth.

Does Galadriel shit? I honestly just can’t picture her shitting.

>> No.46950363

>>46947778
Eh? I thought everyone knew that...

>> No.46950420

>>46950093
>Human blood has higher nutritional value
I don't think blood actually works to provide any nutrition to TA and it doesn't increase their strength. It's more about metaphysical advantages. The downside is it is a silver bullet.

>> No.46950538

>>46950420
It was implied Arc would have been able to recover after Roa "killed" her had she drank Shiki's blood. So it probably does help but only if they are already weakened.

>> No.46950649

>>46950538
I think that's because it'd be like painkillers to her urge and relieve the amount she uses to combat it? Though she's just as likely to go berserk at that point.

>> No.46950768

>>46950649
I don't know. Arc did say human blood is nutritious when they were eating hamburger.

>> No.46950871

>>46950768
I don't think she did? It was more of an analogy to the hamburger in that Shiki wants to eat something more poisonous than nutritious and that's kind of how blood is. TA don't need it for nutrition but it provides psychological benefits and is tied to their craving and desires. She does digest food and can use it for energy though. I'm not sure blood counts as normal "food". She does say it's the highest quality food that provides that kind of additional benefit though. So maybe she does get something else out of it?

>> No.46951678

>>46949659
she could probably use her Gaia privilege thing to spawn an infinite amount of shit from her ass and clog every toilet she comes accross

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>>46951678
The horror.....

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>> No.46951998

>>46949659
Lugh and Servants do not pop so I doubt she is either. Fairies also aren't exactly known for going to the bathroom either.

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>>46952021
Uh oh, you're rambling again. Meds time!

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>>46952104
NOOOOOO I HATE NEEDLES

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>>46952151

>> No.46954806

>>46952151
Why are boys afraid of needles but women aren't? Would Archer need Rin to hold his hand?

>> No.46954844

>>46954806
I'm not afraid.

>> No.46954924

>>46954844
Sure you aren’t.

>> No.46954950

>>46954924
I'm not, funny enough I could believe the generalization though since I know several men who freak out at being pricked.

>> No.46955116

Isn't Ushi a surprisingly good fit for Shiki? Seems appropriately crazy and nonchalant towards killing. Got the imouto energy and seems to appreciate his being a good brother, interested in his body and cutlery skills, Shiki thinks they're beautiful, harassing him in MB manga and game. mountains, oni stuff, lives with Tohno in the modern era, new chapter of her tales, gets teased on her attire and being enticing to a certain young man which sends Akiha into no bueno mode.

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>>46955116
>oni stuff
Technically she is related to oni only by being from the same family as Raikou and nothing else. Would have been good if they had put an actual oni to Melty

>> No.46955324

>>46954806
> Would Archer need Rin to hold his hand?
No, but Lancer would. Dogs hate vet visits.

>> No.46955392

>>46955196
She goes to vanquish Oni(Akiha) so that seems to be something they're including for her. MB seems to be connecting her to the Tohno/Nanaya side of the cast more so than the rest so she'll probably get some interesting things to say and dynamic with them.
>Actual Oni
You have their evolution in the Tohno/Saiki/Kishima. And it seems like Tsuki's take on demons aren't necessarily the same.

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>>46955116
Ushi? Oh you mean Midoriko Usui, she's cute.

>> No.46955433

>>46955392
Not that adding one of the other "Oni" character would have been bad. Though I'd rather see one that has nothing to do with humanity. Meaning not some degraded 'god' or their descendants, human-adjacent mutant, or fabrication made manifest.

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>> No.46955800

why are fate boys so cute

>> No.46956016

>>46955433
Don't think we have a pure oni.
Ibaraki would be a good choice since she come from a family of mixed-blood that raised her to be the leader of the last remaining oni, she could be perfect for a lore dump about oni

>> No.46956399

How much does the concept of 'mass of life' apply to other creatures? I've seen some people arguing Melusine in her fairy form is superior to her Albion form because she is 'small and heavy'. But I'd argue that's not necessarily the case since Albion has stronger draconic traits while Melusine is a fairy. By that logic wyverns would be superior to dragons since they are smaller. Plus Melusine isn't shown to be particularly 'heavy' like Arc visibly warping space/gravity due to her density so it seems kind of questionable.

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>> No.46956862

>>46952021
Shirou's trying to learn Welsh so he can communicate better with Saber.

>> No.46957012

The crescendo of this song never plays in Blue Grass Moon.
I guess they're saving it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa3Zk4123qk

>> No.46957015

Stinky sex with Medusa

>> No.46957379

>>46954806
It's a good thing. Less potential hard drug addicts

>> No.46957432

>>46956399
It's the metric for everything though it only really matters in Tsuki. I feel like it's come up a bit in Adventures. Was it with Van's daughters? They're basically castles in human form. As for individual cases, something large and heavy could potentially be superior to something small and heavy depending on its characteristics and the observers judgement. Luminary has its own advantages and disadvantages over normal Arc. Melu is just not remotely comparable to Arc as not everything that may be categorized in the same sort of grouping is going to actually be on par with each other. Lifescale varies wildly.

>> No.46957471

>>46957432
Lifescale is also naturally associated with Black Barel naturally since Sion.

>> No.46957541
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>> No.46957743

what's the deal with ushi?
she's in babylonia and also tsukihime?

>> No.46957802

>>46957743
She got freshly summoned so she's different than the one stuck in gacha hell. She has memories of fgo but was like fuck that shit and decided to stay back in Souya, looking forward to freely experiencing the current world.

>> No.46957820

>>46957743
huh
summoned?
I thought Servants didn't exist in Tsukihime

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>>46957820
They don't

>> No.46957870

Hot take.
Until Extra, there was literally no issue with the existence of a single unified TM timeline.
Except routes, but that's almost a separate issue.

>> No.46957962

>>46957870
The concept of the Throne of Heroes is ass

>> No.46958006

>>46957962
nta
I'm inclined to agree, but how do you make Archer without it?
He only started to regret when he had to clean up horror after horror.

>> No.46958704

>>46958006
I'm talking about within the framework of TM. Nasu making Fate its own thing is better as you have too many stories emphasizing the finality of death and then muh servants. Especially now with how they are treated like a continuation of each summoning so frequently.

>> No.46958944

>>46958704
>stories emphasizing the finality of death
KnK and Tsuki? Yeah, Fate just doesn't mesh well with those.

>> No.46958959

>>46958704
>the finality of death
I think this is conveyed by Archer being impossible to save and by the fact that no one ever really gets their wish from the grail.

>> No.46959117

>>46958959
Maybe if they stuck with F/SN but even that still sucks relative to the feel of the other works. Servants and incarnating really has no place. Seeing living versions of the characters as they may have been in life as the series went on is even worse. The whole memory carryover when it's convenient makes the concept also feel stupid to me. Life is cheaper in Fate because of all of this and the stakes don't exist. Housemother Archer... Remnant, I haven't played all of the dlc but a few of the dlc if stories have them getting a small wish like incarnating their servant or living a normal life. Shit. Ghosts of the past should have no place in the present.
>>46958944
Mahoyo too given the long-term consequences. Seeing servant mountain autist just pop up after he dies gave me an aneurism.

>> No.46959134

>>46959117
rysm... I got it just remembering.

>> No.46959653

>>46959117
>Life is cheaper in Fate because of all of this and the stakes don't exist
So true lol. I hadn't really thought of this.
It's almost like living in the DB verse with wish granting orbs around that you can use to revive your friends.

>> No.46959691

>>46959117
>Seeing servant mountain autist just pop up after he dies gave me an aneurism
Well that can be excused since he only died within the singularity since his older living self was alive.
It's still kind of unknown whether he is meant to die in Mahoyo sequels.

>> No.46959789

>>46959691
I don't even consider it in line with Mahoyo proper and just an event in FGO's chronology but the idea is representative of what I'm saying. Dude's moment of glory is just like, diminished. Just summon him back for his new part time job lol. Logistics with the fact he died and the gravity of that pretty much glossed over. It's almost cartoon feeling to me. I do think he'll die in the actual Mahoyo world where shit is more serious. He already should have and I think it will be about coming to terms with that.

>> No.46959797

>>46959653
At this point, it's basically that.

>> No.46959970

GO is worst about it. Who gives a shit what happens to an enemy or ally? Good shot they're just gonna get rolled into the gacha as a servant eventually anyway. Oh, they don't have memories? Not the same copy!? Boo hoo. Chances are they're still acting exactly the same, being treated as an extension/carry over or will walk that back somehow as usual. I'm not gobbledygook bro but servant shit is schizo now. You can't even peace out with integrity. Look at OC2, Avengers begone. Don't forget this new Dantes though. Retarded.
>But it's only because of their summoning sys-
Shut up, it's shit.
>Tempor-
I said fuck off.
>Different Orig-
MFer.

>> No.46959980

>>46959970
yeah, FGO is the playground where integrity and stakes go to die

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>> No.46960089

>>46959970
The story in FGO exists to make you want to roll for the servants in it. Servants do cool shit to make you like them -> they die in a dramatic way to make you sad for them -> you bring them back by whaling for them.

>> No.46960220

Sex with Elesia (Roa).

>> No.46960226

>>46960089
Monetization fucking up not only game systems but narrative.

>> No.46960424

>>46956399
Go with logic. There are only two criteria: normal mass and amount of magical energy. Let's take space objects as an example. You have a neutron star, which, although small in size, outnumbers stars like the Sun due to its enormous mass. Then you have an object that's both big and heavy - normal stars and planets. Small and light - asteroids. Small and large - a cloud of cosmic dust. Apply the same logic to everything else. This is standard shit, not some kind of tumba umba universal law, that a small magic object will be cooler than a bigger one. Look at the possibilities and the amount of magical energy.

>> No.46960525

>>46960424
>normal mass and amount of magical energy
Isn't it actually size and weight?
size being the form with weight combining "Mass(physical+magical?)" + "Magical Energy Generation" because reasons like not expecting Nasu to know what mass is?

>> No.46960594

>>46960525
Ciel and Roa list some things.
Small+Heavy:Arc
Large+Heavy:Luminary, Cathedral
Small+Light:Humans
Large+Light:Ghosts, Information, Rumors. Stuff that spreads out.
So first category is actual "Size" of the container and the second its "Weight"

She also mentions mass and magical generation for determining their placement.in the scale. Arc is small but has a ton of mass from all her magical energy.
Think that's how it works

>> No.46961183

Rider game when

>> No.46961251

>>46957802
In what way was she summoned?
Servants don't exist in Tsukihime, right?

>> No.46961323

>>46961251
The power of a mascot character.
>そうですね。端的に言えば,月姫の世界はサーヴァントが存在し得ない世界です。

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>>46904688

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canon images only

>> No.46963477

>>46962958
This is not, and will never be, canon.

>> No.46965230

>>46962958
CUTE
>>46963477
cope

>> No.46966414

>nu-tsuki official english releasing on the ps4
>fsn remake isn't
y tho

>> No.46967075

>>46961323
So she's a "don't think about it" like Neco Arc?

>> No.46967315

>>46967075
It's Neco Arc who summoned them.

>> No.46967361

>>46967075
It's Neco Arc. She's doing it. The worlds have barricades though and Roa shittalks security for letting servants keep appearing. I wouldn't think on it much. It's like Arc being a servant. Dream, fleeting flash of an encounter, jokes, fanservice, dlc, $$$$. Neco mentions some of those.

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>>46962958
post one then.

>> No.46968161

Would Legion (the demon from the Bible) count as a True Demon that tried to incarnate in the Nasuverse?

>> No.46968172

Do women finger themselves to thoughts of Archer

>> No.46968276

>>46968172
>do people masturbate to (fictional character)
Yes.

>> No.46968295

>>46968276
*vomits*

>> No.46968326

>>46968172
No, women don’t come here, or watch anime.

>> No.46968338

>>46968161
Think he'd be a fake? Just comes down to whether it was a creature who existed or not for real without any mankind bullshit impacting it.

>> No.46968401

>>46966414
>fsn remake
Are you from the future?

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What did Archer mean by this?

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>>46969201

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>>46969218

>> No.46969247

Why is Aoko a femcel whose only interested in mountain dick? That actually includes most of the heroines. Is MD that good?

>> No.46969303

>likes to create hot women and men
>loves to write yuri
>makes male characters bisexual if she can get away with it
Is Wada Arco bisexual?

>> No.46969380

>>46962958
Shiki and Shirou are 100% heterosexual.

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You said she wasn't a True Ancestor.

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>>46970083
Because she's not one but basically they go "close enough"

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>> No.46970429

>>46970083
Brand recognition lmfao because
>>46970180
Chinese knock-off literally.

Interesting how they say she's not a Demonic/Phantasmal as well to show she's not DA adjacent either.

>> No.46970529

>>46970180
do they explain what her deal is
what was her purpose as "planet interface"

>> No.46970613

>>46970529
Whatever it was it's replaced by wanting the horse cock now, just like Arc purpose was replaced by wanting Shikis cock

>> No.46970913

>>46970613
What happens with Arc when Shiki inevitably dies, anyway?
Does she fuck the next closest Nanaya?
Get Ciel and Shiki to have kids first and wait for a son to grow up?

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>>46970913
Goes to sleep and dreams of their time together while maybe watching their descendants if they're lucky enough to have some. Or consume his soul and keep him with her forever or something.

>> No.46971070

>>46970991
>consume his soul and keep him with her forever
h-hot

>> No.46971847

Archer would never have sex with Rin. He cherishes her memory too much.

>> No.46972158

>>46970083
She just said it has value for brand recognition. Mash is just worried she'd be hunted down by using that label.

>> No.46972168

>>46971847
No, he would def destroy her pussy if she asked him to.

>> No.46972172

>>46970429
DA are not demonic/phantasmal though, but something else. In Fate Labyrinth they make a distinction between vampires that are phantasmal and DA.

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I think this is pretty good evidence TA > all Heroic Spirits.
HSs are nerfed versions of the living humans, and TAs existed in the time human history was the most prolific beginning around the end of the AoG.

>> No.46972747

>>46972716
I agree with this. This should also put TA>Gods especially if they're fallen.

>> No.46972760

>>46972172
Didn't Mash say they're something like a phantasmal/demonic beast threat?

>> No.46972801

>>46972760
Nah that was just Noel based on her amount of magical energy.

>> No.46972832

>>46972801
So rank VI DA are at the level of trash mobs?

>> No.46972976

>>46972832
Most demonic/phantasmal species have more magical energy and vitality than Servants. What are you talking about? Servants can defeat them due to teamwork and skill.

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>>46972716
>>46972747
Romulus is the only Divine Spirit capable of competing with TA. His powers are basically the aggregate force of all western society.

>> No.46974213

>Merlin is a long white haired twink
>Solomon is a long white haired twink
>Abe-no-Seimei is a long white haired twink
Why does type moon hate cool old men

>> No.46974282

>>46974213
There is always Zelretch.

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>>46972832
This should include Carmilla and Vlad, even if they rather not being called that. In other quote Mash says that Sheba categorise DA Noel as 人類の脅威, although that's rather about nature of Tsuki DA than powerlevel of the single one

>> No.46974367

>>46974282
I can count the number of token old guys on my hand

>> No.46974374

>>46974213
Because the Japanese hate drawing detailed faces lol. Old people are harder to draw.

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>> No.46976026

>>46974320
Then it's not a measure of power at all and more like calling Lugh or Kouma similar to a phantasmal beast or whatever?

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>>46968172
Women aren't even real, they're space aliens. just like Australia

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>>46976026
This statement? It's clearly a measure of power, it's just vague and not helpful since demonic and phantasmal beasts vary wildly. Pegasus is a phantasmal, the Questing Beast Arthur strugled against in Fragments was a demonic beast.
Also Roa was stated to have a lower Lifescale than Noel and Mash states he is a much more difficult opponent due to his mastery of magecraft.
So it's a lot more nuanced than some people want to think.

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honk

>> No.46976746

>>46976719
Shiki is so fucking lucky.

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>> No.46977304

>>46977300
SEX SEX SEX
MAID SEEEEX

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>> No.46977701

>>46968326
But what about that Brazilian artist?

>> No.46977776

>>46976112
Sounds bogus when Noel gets noted for possibly being seen as a rank IV or VII depending on how she uses her blood.

>> No.46977797

>>46977776
all of TM is pretty bogus, not gonna lie
just don't think about it

>> No.46977909

>>46977776
The only time she was listed as rank 7 was when she literally herself with final shot from Arach. Her body couldn't handle it so she lasted only few seconds but she gained power that matched Ciel

>> No.46977922

Make >>46969227 the next OP, please.

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>>46977909
Roa says her usage in creating the cathedral in MBTL is possibly comparable moments after saying he thought she may as well be a IV so to me the power gauging by Mash seems worthless and honestly just reads more like acknowledging she's transcended humanity.

>> No.46978108

SHEBA's observational functions were halted upon entering Noel's space anyway so maybe that's also relevant.

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>no one will remember you other than melty sadge

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>> No.46979076

>>46979073
wut

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>> No.46981120

>>46977776
Roa said it possibly takes the skill of a rank VII to recreate the world she created at that point. But that doesn't mean she can use the power of a rank VII for combat purposes, since she quite explicitly never does.
Different applications.

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>> No.46982446

>>46977776
He's confused because Noel is a clusterfuck enigma as far as DA go. She got stats of the rank 6, zero experience and knowledge so she feels like a "newborn" rank 4 and her mystic eyes of roses (fake) feel like a gift from from DAA which normally only someone worthy of rank 7 would get

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