End of the year NEET thread

[Anonymous No.]

How has the NEET life treated you in 2023? Hopes for 2024?
Remember to take it easy.

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>>45661536
Still want to die every day drugs and alcohol are the only times I feel an inch of pleasure/satisfaction

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>>45661536
I got a job.

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>>45661536
i want to get a job but I really can't deal with people.

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>>45661536
Well enough overall but there were some parts that sucked. Online friends that i was very close to all but disappeared and i sometimes get immense dread about the direction (or lack thereof) my life is going. I just want to OD with Kaguya.

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>>45661536
idk, i worked for like two months at a friend's arcade business, it was pretty comfy but pays minimum wage, its seasonal so haven't worked since the end of summer. will probably do the job again next year while i attempt to work on personal projects that may or may not go anywhere, something i didn't at all do this year and makes me full of regret and dread when i think about it.

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>>45661839
I "retired" from NEET life and it made me consider suicide every day this year.
Don't throw it away, make passive income somehow. It's not too late for you.

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>>45661536
>How has the NEET life treated you in 2023?
Horribly.
>Hopes for 2024?
Either getting friends who like Japanese stuff and a job that doesn't suck or suicide.

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>>45661536
I was pretty much forced to get a job and I'm miserable every single day. I miss being a NEET.

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>>45661536
>Remember to take it easy.
i'm currently into easy mode for the festivities but i plan to go back into a proper "working" schedule soon. i feel like a little rest plus some healthy xmas food helped my health a lot, sometimes it's important to take it really really easy.

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>>45661536
I yearn back for the period where I could be a NEET and take it yukkuri, with my life consisting mostly of watching anime and youtube. Well, technically it still does, except I'm in college and it makes me stressed out all the time. Weed used to calm me down, but it ends up making me feel pretty lonely these days. I tried to get diagnosed for some mental issues, but it ended up not resulting in anything because I doubted the quality of the therapy and ended up not proceeding with my treatment. Overall, 2023 sucked. I'm less relaxed and more miserable as a person.

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>>45661536
I started a gov program during September to resocialise myself while being paid 550€ a month.
There are some improvements but I don't think I'm ready to start working anytime soon since I have no experience and no will to work.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm looking to become a neet in 2024 bros how do i get neetbux if i'm american and not actually mentally ill

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>>45661536
Dead

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>>45661536
I don't really want to be a NEET but I hate dealing with people so much I can't stop.
I'm probably going to get a job in manufacturing next year, but every time I put myself out there I get pushed back by the world.
I have massive issues with trusting people anyway, but if I spend another year lounging around not doing anything I'll end up depressed (more than I am already).

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>>45661536
>How has the NEET life treated you in 2023?
Good, better than the previous years. I finally managed to stop caring about socializing and not being able to make friends and my loneliness has disappeared so taking it easy has become a lot easier.
>Hopes for 2024?
Getting good at my hobbies.

[Anonymous No.]

The NEETs ITT should meet up and orgy together

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>>45667946
Which 2hu are you going to cosplay as?

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How smelly are /jp/ NEET cocks? Mine smells like steamy fish with a hint of garlic

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>>45668028
My cock smells like warm seawater with a bit of seaweed. I don't wash it under my foreskin though so it's fish sometimes

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>>45661536
I wasn't a neet but things changed a lot this year
But still no friend, still no gf, and no sister anymore either.
>>45661792
>I got a job.
Me too
First job different city, idk sometimes i second guess myself but i really wanted to get out of my hometown and live alone for a while. Hometown wasn't bad but when you stay there for such a long time it just feels like you haven't moved forward an inch in life

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I wonder what percentage of people in general enjoy their jobs.

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>>45667628
You can’t then. Even if you are mentally ill it’s difficult to actually get them.

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>>45668028
Fish

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>>45668219
Autism diagnoses are at an all time high in America.

[Anonymous No.]

its gone pretty well! theres short bouts of sadness sometimes when i watch a show or something but i have good friends and a good relationship with my mother so its been a fun year id say

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>>45667628
https://tinychan.net/topic/47286

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>>45661536
Thread theme https://youtu.be/-B66_fk_WaY

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I don't even know how to get a job.
I've searched on the web but the only ones that don't require experience or a degree are dead end jobs like flipping burger or working in retail (which I've tried, and it made me seriously consider suicide).

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>>45669008
Getting a job is demoralizing

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It was fun being a NEET. I have an OK job now and I'm happy with the additional income.
The extremely destructive personal problems that existed while I was a NEET persist even now, so there's that.
>>45668188
My job has some extremely shitty moments but its fine. I'm a medical transportation driver. Its usually pretty cool to listen to people's stories as I bus them around and I get to drive pretty much wherever I want when I have downtime, so for someone like me that likes driving for the sake of driving and exploring its great. Certainly more rewarding and noble than working at some shitty non-profit retail/fast food dump.

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I'm so drunk

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>>45669161
Me too friend, me too. good new years.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, what a year 2023 has been.
Back in 2022, I was silly in love with a cute girl I was friends with for years. After courting her for a month, she discarded me in silence for a superior replacement. That was a massive blow to my ego.
Then, my fishing friend died and that one left me in a state of haze. I just ... couldn't function anymore.
A saving grace came when I started traveling around as an escape and I stayed at a place that had a swimming pool. I sunk myself to the bottom of the pool then came out to the surface, only to not hurt for a few precious seconds.
When 2023 came, I knew 2023 was going to be a year where I have to redeem myself.
With all the exercising I've been doing, I managed to go from 130kg to 80kg, I travel whenever I can by myself and I do put in bits of work here and there on personal projects.
The weird part is that I ... can't say it hurts any less, but I do feel like my back has gotten stronger to be able to hold the pain.
My perspective also shifted a little bit, in the sense that I think I'm reaching a point where I'm too old to start a family and my mother has expressed concern to me that I'm becoming unusually isolated, preferring to just stay inside and read books. It has also left me feeling very disconnected in the sense that I feel way too embarrassed to tell others I'm hurting.
For 2024 I'd like to be able to travel a little more around the country and maybe go to a neighboring country and maybe one of my personal projects reaches feature completeness.

I hope you all are blessed with a kind 2024.

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>>45667855
based.
>>45668028
high t.
but also hot and sticky, like my balls.
>>45670553
>I hope you all are blessed with a kind 2024.
same to you.
but also
>2023
>not knowing they are all sluts
no exception.

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>>45661536

[Anonymous No.]

I'm back to being a NEET starting today. I used to be one for 3 years and later I worked for 3 years at my previous job, doing exactly the same things I did as a NEET but with 9 less hours to waste.
I want to be productive with my savings and change my life starting in 2024. Workout hard, improve my japanese and date a japanese idol crosdresser.

[Anonymous No.]

haopy new yesr everyone (:

[Anonymous No.]

It's a new year, time to finally take a bath, dudes.

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>>45667855
How do you make money?

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>>45672943
NEETbux and living with my parents.

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Happy new years japey
After working three jobs, I can conclude I am never doing the 9-to-5 lifestyle again. It's freelancing or bust.
Obviously not all 9-to-5s suck. In the summer of 2022, I was making $5000 per week from a remote gig where I did a little work in cloud software each day. But you know what? Being in a company sucks. I don't like bosses. I don't like hierarchy. I don't like selling my freedom for cash (AKA slavery).

There was something I read once about how in the Middle Ages, labor was done extremely differently. You got paid to do a certain task, and when it was done? You left. The clock ruined the world (Thanks lots germany). Selling my services is fine, but selling my life by literal timespan is disgusting when you think about it. Why does anyone get to own my time?

So yeah, that's my advice to NEETs who have never done the 9-to-5 shtick before. If you think you'll hate it, well... you probably will. And it's completely natural and within your right to do so. So work around it.

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>>45673710
> I was making $5000 per week from a remote gig where I did a little work in cloud software each day
Damn can you give me some money?
>But you know what? Being in a company sucks. I don't like bosses. I don't like hierarchy.
Based.

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>>45672825
Happy new year to you as well, Okuu.

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>>45673710
>I did a little work in cloud software each day
what did that entail? Cloud is one of the areas im aiming for as well but what other remote jobs in IT have you seen that require less time devoted than most?

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>>45673710
>but selling my life by literal timespan is disgusting when you think about it
I feel you brother

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>>45673710
You sound like a marxist.

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>>45674777
>Damn can you give me some money?
Would if I could
>>45674942
It was one of those internships where they baby you while your mentors from the company do the real hard work. We developed a little software for a cloud suite like MS office, while my bosses did a customer-facing gig which was part sales and part communication after the sale to help integrate cloud tech into their business. They seemed pretty busy tbqh. They were also hiring at the time, but right as summer ended they stopped, which precipitated the big tech hiring freeze. I'm not some market expert or w/e but it looks like tech has peaked, all these people flooding in augurs poorly. Getting into it a couple years ago was hard, and that was during the boom. It's probably way harder at the moment.
>45674968
>bringing up polshit
pic related

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>>45673710
>There was something I read once about how in the Middle Ages, labor was done extremely differently. You got paid to do a certain task, and when it was done? You left.
It's a little more complex than that. Lots of work was done being paid by the job, for instance if you wanted something built you'd pay someone to do it and when it was built they'd go, but there were lots of exceptions. For a lot of labourers you'd get paid by the day, where you'd show up, work long periods of time (typically nearly sunrise to sunset) and then go home, of course this was much more common for commoners. Now you'd also be required to work for days without any kind of pay, if you were on certain kinds of compulsory labour, say your local lord was entitled to you working x number of days on his fields you'd have to do that. And with the largest of buildings, like cathedrals or castles, you'd also likely get paid by the day because they were very much stop-start-stop-start constructions depending on whether or not the person owning the land could scrounge up the money to continue having people work on it (this is how constructions of some of them could last a hundred years, simple lack of funds and interest in finishing it). Additionally, you could agree to a bunch of different kinds of other bargains where you'd be paid daily for long-term ongoing work (early domestic servants would typically fall here), or you could agree to a job so long that there's not much difference (say, sailing a boat over a great distance). You are completely correct in that hours was not the measurement of wages though.

[Anonymous No.]

I got a 40h/wk job in November
made me realise how good I had it as a freelance illustrator previously

money is stable now though, and job is not hard just sitting in office for long hours
i'm gonna reinvest the money into freelance illustration activities, upgrade my setup, start streaming, diversifying income and becoming full professional
I'm preparing to do it better next time, but it'll be a while before I can make that jump again maybe late 2024
shouldn't be too hard as i've amassed 150k followers on twitter as NEET for 3 years just need to convert that to passive income somehow

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>>45675056
I see! Thank you for the answer!

[Anonymous No.]

Are there people who haven't worked in years or not worked at all in the NEET thread?
It sound like all those who post here are the less NEET of /jp/

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>>45675726
I've worked briefly when I was 19. I'll be turning 28 in april.

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>>45675726
jaypee is more the <span class="sjis">yukkuri shiteitte</span> board than the neet board.

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>>45675785
I thought this board was the place with the higher amount of NEETs.

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>>45675799
yukkuri lifestyle is an evolution from the neet lifestyle. a mean to survive in an heartless neetbuxless world.

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>>45675726
i havent worked in 8 years. I'm just gathering knowledge, like a wizard, before taking a step into the working world again

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>>45673710
Yeah you are right. 9-5 world is a joke. But you know, it's the only option for some of us who are too stupid, uncreative, or depressed to figure out a better way to make money in this world. If I could get away with it, I would certainly just be a NEET, seeing as I'm just not a really well functioning person in real life. Unfortunately, we still do not have basic universal income. I just wish I wasn't born at all.

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>>45675726
People have forgotten that freeters exist. Those of us who work but just part-time at piss easy jobs to have extra money for hobbies (or because they have to because they lack NEETbux and/or rich parents) but still live the hikkikomori shutin life.

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>>45675726
I haven't worked or even go to college since graduating high school and I'm 25.

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>>45675726
I haven't worked at all in my life.
>>45677537
No one forgot about freeters but they're not NEETs. Hikki =/= NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

i have a job interview soon so i might not be a neet much longer
i hate my life

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>>45679819
Capitalism is rigged so bad it's not even funny

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>>45679864
Tell me anon. What *specifically* about the free market is lowering your quality of life?
Bearing in mind that someone has to dig the coal out to power your computer that you are using to post.

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>>45679910
the misidentification of capitalism with markets is one of the greatest tricks of the 20th century
pre-capitalists had markets everwhere, many of which were highly free
anti-capitalists come up with many systems, many of which imply or require the continued existence of markets
capitalists sometimes produce remarkably unfree markets, due to forming monopoly and oligopolic capitalism under the right circumstances

[Anonymous No.]

out

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>>45679924
you are correct.
but i would call it judaism instead of capitalism

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>>45680026
"Capitalism isn't bad. It's just the capitalists that are bad!"

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>>45661536
mostly dealing with new health issues. getting rediagnosed with ptsd and such. i have such an insanely long list of things diagnosed with and documented can see why the neetbux department approved me so easily.

i bought a 75 inch tv and watching anime and korean movies on it is pretty cozy. upgraded my amp+dac stack, works pretty well. ive mostly gotten everything i've needed just need to buy some speakers for my TV lol.

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>>45680242
Ballin'

[Anonymous No.]

Compared to other years I've fared much better. But I don't really know why because I've not done anything differently besides get job interviews that go nowhere.

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>>45680509
One small step at a time brother!

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>>45673710
>I can conclude I am never doing the 9-to-5 lifestyle again.
I spent my wfh years making money pretending to work while watching hours of hololive each day but I couldn't stand it for the same reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

okay so i got some speakers with subwoofer for my tv, optical cables, new power surge and bedsheets

pretty much got everything i've ever needed now. at least stuff that would improve my quality of life. now i guess i just save.
i guess i could always decorate my room, but have no idea what i'd decorate the walls with. there are some cute wall scrolls on neokyo though.

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>>45683892
meant *surge protector oops

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>>45672064
>Br
How the fuck can someone be a NEET in Bostil and not become a hobo in a year?

[Anonymous No.]

I’m going to try and learn how to actually cook this year

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>>45668111
Poor Mokou. She doesn't deserve this life.

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>>45686137
Neither do you, or anyone else here

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>>45661536
got into fighting games this year and used it as motivation to keep going, this year i wanna actually go to a local and hopefully find friends maybe a job- im slowly getting out of neetdom but im also too sick to move much so... i still have to deal with that.

but im sure i'll make it, we will make it everyone <3 no matter who u are

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>>45686302
Can I hug you

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>>45686308
of course anon

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>>45661536
Worked all year until last month. I guess I'm more of a freeter than a NEET now. Trying to get a remote programming job so I can at least be a hiki.
>>45673710
>>45683123
You guys are crazy, no idea how good you had it. I would honestly kill for a remote job like that. Even if I had to do actual work, just being able to keep away from normalfags would be a godsend.

[Anonymous No.]

I still feel hungover from New Years

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>>45661536
I've been a neet for a good few years now and its been alright outside of holidays.
I've been wanting to kill myself ever since highschool, before actually since middleschool, but I never got around too it.
Before I was just being dramatic but I'm going to be 28 soon with nothing to show for it. I got really close to putting a bullet in my brain back in '22 or so but now I'm very very close. Before I'd think too much about it and it'd stop me, now I kinda get in a rush sometimes where I go 'man I want to fucking die' outloud before I do something and sometimes as a joke I'd grab my gun and line it up. I do this often in one fell motion like when I stand up from my couch and I've been just a twitch away from blowing my brains out. I often look up and see my computer monitor sitting there and realize that I haven't formatted it and that stops me in that second.
Afterwards a ghost feeling emerges as I imagine the feeling of that hole in my head, its nearly orgasmic in a way I can't describe as a man. One day I fear I may format my computer, then I'll go through with it since there is nothing to stop me. I can't think about it too long though since sense stops me everytime. Its scary but also seems like it might be a happy time, I'm just scared of what lies after. There isn't any philosophy or religion that says favorable things about those who do after all. Am I ready to take that gamble? I don't know, but sometimes I'm so close and ready to take the plunge.

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>>45687401
Religion forbades suicide because it has to be a bad thing for religion to make sense. If you could end your suffering at any time by suicide, then religion immediately becomes unnecessary.

Now I don't wanna encourage you to die, but the closest thing we have to "knowing" what comes after death is from people who took super high doses of DMT in their veins and came away 100% certain believing that death is a state of infinite bliss and peace, and we'd all suicide ASAP if we knew what lie ahead of us. This was in Rick Strassman's book on DMT.

It's hard to tell you not to do it. I'll just say, if you end up doing it, don't just make it an "attempt"

[Anonymous No.]

Also any other NEETs here start to turn away from human contact? Dunno if there's something in the water lately but people are becoming more animalistic, more cruel, more like our chimp and bonobo ancestors. Now everyone flaunts the worst side of themselves and it really makes me bummed out. I've started to read old Roman and French moralist writers to inject that feeling of humanity back into my world

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>>45687401
>gun
Bad idea, you'll probably end up like Werther.
>>45688009
Yes, but that was quite a while ago.
It's just the result of extreme stress.
Humans are of course disgusting creatures, but in better times their true nature is better hidden.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I had friends

Like genuine people that care for your well-being and you cared for theirs. Does anyone ITT have that, and if so tell me how it is please

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>>45675726
I've been one for more than a decade now. The neet threads and by extension the neets were largely purged from /jp/ by the mods sometime around the mid 2010s. Most migrated into spin-offs, others eventually had to get a job to survive or probably went over to the 'otherside'.

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>>45675799
Not anymore, it hasn't been in a long time.

>>45688009
I've noticed it as well, might be the aftereffect of the pandemic.

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>>45687974
Religion (such as Christianity or Buddhism) isn't just about alleviating personal suffering, it's ultimate goal is lowering collective suffering of all living beings. Even the extremely pessimistic religious movements such as medieval Cathars/gnostics permitted suicide only under specific circumstances.
The problem with suicide is that it is ultimately a selfish act. Yeah, you absolve yourself of suffering but usually cause a ripple effect of more suffering existing in the world in the form of, for example a family member grieving and even life long bereavement. If you care at all about possibly inducing life long depression on your family due to bereavement, I would recommend not killing yourself. At least not when you are young.

[Anonymous No.]

life just gets worse every year

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>>45686302
Posts like yours give me hope. Thank you anon

[NEET rant No.]

>>45688009
The biggest lie I have ever heard is that the world desires unique people.

You're allowed to differ from the norm in one of a handful of ways. Outside of that, you will be punished severely. When you try to express your point-of-view, you will have an unimaginable amount of scorn and derision thrown your way. They'll try to make you feel guilty, they'll assume you're being dishonest and putting on a weird act, and they'll often assume you're one of their enemies "in disguise". Maybe that sounds unrealistic to you, but I have an example.

Tonight I was reading about David Hume. Currently he's considered one of the greatest philosophers of all time, but during his own life, despite his best efforts to communicate and be genuine, his contemporaries believed he was a dishonest and evil man trying to subvert the foundations of religion and philosophy, and it got so bad one of his friends went behind his back to block his attempt to become a college professor. All his life, he was haunted with self doubt over his own abilities, and renounced his first treatise because so many people attempted to convince him it was nonsense. If he didn't get popular in France he likely would've abandoned philosophy.

Here's an idea: If simply expressing your honest views in clear language makes everyone call you a combination of: (1) schizo, (2) retarded, (3) a bad actor, there's a good chance you're doing something right. You see, they say these things because they cannot wrap their brain around what you're actually saying, so they assume a defensive posture and interpret you as a threat. Just like how a person in a dark room who senses a mysterious presence will immediately assume a defensive pose. They cannot understand you so they reflexively interpret you as a threat. See, if they actually believed you were schizo or retarded they'd just treat you like a Flat Earther and laugh. They react with hostility because you are obviously intelligent and sane, but incomprehensible to them, so they assume malice. The fate of a unique person is to be constantly, entirely misunderstood.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything

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>>45688009
Fuck dude, you noticed it too huh? I wonder if it's a generational thing that's going to pass or just the new normal

[Anonymous No.]

I've been constantly surrounded by normalfags for the last 5 days.
This is hell.
I want to go home.

[Anonymous No.]

i recently got out of neetdom and got a job that's sperg-safe AND i actually enjoy what i do

too good to be true? we'll see

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>>45694525
>job that's sperg-safe
Does such a thing really exist?
What job is it?

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>>45688040
>Bad idea, you'll probably end up like Werther
Mine is a 40 so it'd be unlikely to fail if you line it up right under your jaw aiming for about the middle of your brain. Ideally I'd use a shotgun but i do not personally have one.
>>45687974
You don't get the point of religion my friend. While I agree with you partially on the DMT thing that is only a case of ego death, not true death. A more accurate representation would be those that die and come back to life. Though even their stories might be flawed due to the fact that the brain has not died for them.
Fact is nobody knows and even our best guesses are just that, guesses.

Also I want to point out that DMT trips are not at all only peaceful.

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>>45688059
I only really had it in my late teen/adult life and I can't really describe it. I had two friends of that nature and I squandered it by drifting apart from them after I moved out of the area.
It's like having family, but the bond you have is something built. It's a nice and comforting thing as you realize you'd go out of way to help them just like they'd help you. Even though you may be a bit of a recluse and not like sudden invitations you know that if you force yourself out with them you won't regret it even if what you get up too is boring. Its very nice.

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>>45691618
>Here's an idea: If simply expressing your honest views in clear language makes everyone call you a combination of: (1) schizo, (2) retarded, (3) a bad actor, there's a good chance you're doing something right
Only partially anon, sometimes a retarded troll is just that. If you cannot backup your own views with at least logic or life experiences you may just be delusional rather than a hidden genius

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>>45694687
The problem with reason is that it's not the universal bridge between perspectives that people like to believe it is. Reason is really nothing more than a hashed-out version of our intuition, which accepts or rejects ideas on a basis that's not strictly rational. Each of us has innate, preformed cognitive biases that tell us "When the truth comes, it will manifesr itself in this specific way". When you get down to it you realize reason is mostly irrelevant in terms of belief, or more accurately reason is only a process of deduction from our intuitions, so that if you lack the requisite intuition (AKA experience or feeling), no amount of logic or reason will allow you to reach the same conclusion.

This sounds complicated, but it's like how our brains are pre-configured to enjoy certain kinds of music more than others and no amount of post hoc logic will explain why Black Sabbath is better than Metallica, you just have to feel like they are. You can try to argue with a guy who prefers Metallica, but it can't really go anywhere because the outcome is predetermined.

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>>45688009
I'm THE Animalistic Bonobo. Normalvermin can backflip onto their necks, they will never escape their pitiful pseudoanimalism limbo. I'm escaping NEETdom just to outnormalshit them, they can't even take themselves seriously in their supposed normalcy they try to cling to, it's disgusting. Worse than cattle, worse than rats.

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>>45694876
To give an example, I didn't like Elden Ring. This is a rare opinion in most places and I discovered it was worthless to bring up, because people would say I'm a retarded troll every time. I could give any number of arguments and describe what I disliked but that didn't matter because everyone else who played Elden Ring really loved it. So any attempt to back up your statements with logic is interpreted as trolling because of the fundamental gap in experience between the two groups.

Logic is only useful so long as both parties share the same contingent of intuitions which reason uses to obtain conclusions. If even a single intuition is missing for either party, the whole system collapses and mutual understanding is impossible.

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>>45694976
Skill issue

NTA

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>>45694876
>>45694976
It seems were arguing different points here, I'm talking about logic which all has to be based on some axiom or other to actually be true. I.E: stealing is wrong so this and this apply. While you are talking more about reason and opinion, if that's the case then I agree with you on that; if you have opinions on things that are largely different then yes, people will lambast you when it comes to things that have large concensus where people feel one way. You should stick to your guns about it unless it's rooted in stubbornness that is borne from a lack of willingness to try something you know nothing about.

Though I do insist that if everyone and their mom is calling you an idiot than they may be right. That comes from more of my experience that people that will endless talk something they don't like are indeed bad faith trolls. In actuality someone will simply not like things they won't like and there's nothing wrong with that.

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>>45694927
This is the way. Drive them all to despair using your presence alone to put ungodly amounts of pressure on their souls. Remind them that they're incapable of escaping their pitiful existence while our unhindered will allows us to go wherever we please in life. Destroying any one of them who happens to be in the way.

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>>45695103
Honestly I believe it's true even for axiomatic logic. We consider things like taste in video game to be totally subjective, but questions of morality or logic to be objective, when the basis for difference in all areas is really sub-logical, it springs from the intuition, from the mind telling us clearly, "The truth will present itself in these terms" like a vision out of the bible. It can be as simple as the divide between analytic and continental philosophy. I don't have a good answer for why the analytic method feels like nonsense to me, it simply does. But if you try and debate this with an analytic thinker it's not possible to go anywhere, because his brain is designed to anticipate truth in a different way than yours.

That's what I mean by intuitions. AKA feelings or senses. If you were the only continental thinker in a world full of analytics, they'd all try to convince you that you're insane, retarded, or acting in bad faith. The fact is there's just an unbridgeable divide in your perceptions of the world, which no amount of reason or logic can overcome. Reasoning between two people cannot work unless they share the same intuitions. Otherwise it simply breaks down.

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>>45694976
Git gud, scrub.
But seriously, the reason why people do that is because they want to talk about things they like. They want to share that joy and love for the game with others.
If you didn't like it, that's fine, but it's just your opinion.

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>>45695376
To borrow a cross-border term, we're talking about 'reals vs feels' here. More seriously it seems we're talking about the difference between logos and pathos. Yes, a person that thinks based on emotion and intuition will not understand someone that thinks based on logic. I do not believe you need evidence to back up that claim, the evidence is empirical in nature and is something we seem to both agree on.

You are right that you will never appeal to a emotionally driven person with logic and vice versa, but that is not true of axiom based logic. Granted it has to be something that is self evident as the name implies like: 'killing is wrong, stealing is bad, wearing your skin inside out would hurt'.
The reason for that is because it is logic, you are not arguing feelings IE 'its morally correct because it makes me feel good or is satisfying' . Anyone that is seriously trying to parse out a morality or philosophy based on logic has to abide by logic as well. This kind of logically made philosophy in general will never be seriously used by emotional thinkers to create a system of morality. That is why so long as the axiom is indeed self evident it can indeed be used to create a more objective view point.

I honestly don't think we have a real disagreement here.

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>>45691618
>>45694976
>I don't like Elden Ring
ok
>this is a rare *unique* opinion
sure
>people don't like my unique opinion
ok
>therefore the world doesn't desire unique people
umm huh?

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>>45694976
>>45695589
This is kind of strange to me because when someone doesn't like something that I really like, I'm usually always curious to know why. I find opposing opinions interesting I guess.

I also didn't really like Elden Ring. It wasn't bad, I think the open world fatigue just hit me hard and I can't stand it anymore. After playing so much Breath of the Wild and other games I just find the thought of wandering an empty field of grass unbearable now. I think FromSoft peaked at Dark Souls 1 and never made a game nearly as good since.

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>>45687401
Killing yourself will just put you into another body.. The purpose of the body is to cause the soul to grow. So killing yourself changes absolutely nothing, you will face the same problems in a different body. Also pleasure for the body is pain for the soul and vice versa. The orgasm for the body is like a killing blow to the soul and the orgasm for the soul is the death of the body.

[Anonymous No.]

got a job, back in school, exercising. This years goal is socializing

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>>45661536
gonna graduate relatively soon with a maths degree, no fuckin clue what i'll do after the fact or how i can get employed but maybe i can be a codemonkey somewhere since we had to do lots of programming for project work

maybe i'll keep doing maths in grad school and pay out the ass for more tuition but academia apparently sucks ass and i'm an utterly uncreative dumbass when it comes to doing research. i was going to do electrical engineering but noooooooo, just had to double down and pick a field that is ambiguous when it comes to finding employment for recent grads, even in an area that's infested by defence contractors looking for engineering grads to indoctrinate

i remember the time when my gensokyo travel date was either before i graduated high school or before i turned eighteen, but i guess it's extended itself into whenever i have to join the real world and cease being a reclusive asshole that spends their time writing proofs and reading/occasionally visiting /tttt/ and the jay

tl;dr stuck in a self-pitying rut, but all is well in my tiny little bubble

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>>45695642
I think it's more complex than logos vs pathos. Let me give an example. There are countless proofs of the existence of God, but in practice no one really consults these proofs despite their claims sub specie aeterni. No one feels the need to refute Leibniz and Descartes when they stop believing in God, but that is what would happen if humans were purely logical beings. Our disbelief in God is really pre-logical. If you were born in the 17th century and you were a rational adult, your intuition (or reason) would tell you that God almost certainly exists. I once heard about a guy who said if you time traveled back to 15th century France, atheism would be utterly inconceivable because the whole world was predicated around the existence of a god. Even for the most rational and logical man like Newton it would be obvious that God exists.

Anyway this is getting rambly. Wasn't trying to argue if it appeared that way. I just feel there's a lot of gaps in our understanding of the human reason, owed mostly due to this mysterious thing called intuition or judgment. Maybe I'll write a book

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first shower and shit of 2024
blocked the fucking toilet

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>>45701229
ill wait for it to disolve

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>>45701229
good

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>>45688009
This has been going on for years. It's because of the pandemic driving people apart and the absolute state of the economy driving the wagie to the edge.

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>>45674968
and you sound like a prostitute.

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>>45698540
You could try changing how you present your opinion.
For example, Elden Ring was praised for how dense (in terms of content) the open world was, with always something new to find, so when someone reads "wandering an empty field of grass", it feels the opposite of what they experienced (even if you didn't mean it), so they might assume you didn't even play the game. You could try saying something like "I prefer the more linear level design of their past games". Same thing with saying no other Fromsoft game is as nearly good as DS1.
Another thing you can do is talk about things you liked together with the things you disliked.
If you don't want people to think you're a troll, the way you express your opinion is extremely important.

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I will vinniemax and go from n6 to n0 this year, and then travel to Japan and marry a beautiful qt.

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What was >>45701229? It got deleted

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>>45661762
>drugs and alcohol
Damn dude, might as well just kill yourself now. Fuckin druggies...

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>>45707933
normalfaggot

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>>45707933
i like how you instantly imagine a russian heroin suicide den unprompted instead of the way drug use usually happens on 4chan, like anons sitting in their rooms and smoking weed or something

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>>45706594
i think it was a literal shitpost

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>>45708097
>>45712617
>>45712624
niggerweed

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>>45712624
wdym

[Anonymous No.]

how come people with jobs / in school post in the neet thread

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>>45713122
Because we live in 2023 and it's not feasible for most people to live as a NEET unless they want to be homeless. The economy doesn't allow it.

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>>45713122
It's more accurately a NEET and Freet thread.

[Anonymous No.]

welp everyone in my family is pressuring me to get a job and there is very little I can do about it.
goodbye life.
8 hours a day, another 2 hours for getting ready and getting there and back.
8-10 hours of sleep since I need alot.
Effectively 4 hours or less for myself every day.
This is hell

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>>45726699
ganbare anon. i hope you can start out with a part time job or spam applications until you find wfh. remember that there are still ways you can slack off or keep yourself entertained, bring a manga tablet, listen to podcasts, and read books

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>>45675231
>made me realise how good I had it as a freelance illustrator previously

What happened? You became lazy or did the AI took er jerb?

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>>45731080
>lazy or did the AI took er jerb?
at this point AI can probably do a better job, but I can stay competitive because I can advertise a client IP/commission to a lot of people
can't say it took my job, but i lost confidence in the market plus anxiety about Elon's acquisition of twitter (my only platform) put everything on hold for a few months
if neither happened, i like to think i'd have progressed further and wouldn't need to be a wagie. basically took the job to keep my employment history active as a backup plan
oh and family circumstances too

that's all just cope tho since plenty of artists I know inclined this whole time

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>>45688059
I do yeah, and it's really nice. Being able to rely on people during your own shortcomings is a great feeling. But I'm also not a NEET anymore, and when I was, that was the time I was most alienated from my friends and most alone. So take that for what you will

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>>45688059
Can't say I have.
Everyone I have ever put a single ounce of trust or faith in has thrown it back at me sooner or later.
At first I still held hope for the future in spite of it, but now I don't see how my life could ever improve.
Not in the sense that "I have it so good now that nothing could possibly be better", just "I'm such a miserable piece of shit with no redeeming qualities"
Not really an answer but that's what I have.

I have a few anecdotes, but the best one is when I was about ten I think, and this little shit in my class with the most punchable face you could think of would sneer at me (as far as you think a ten year old kid could sneer), and insult me all the time. He always managed to make it look like he was the victim whenever anything happened, which wasn't too often but not unheard of, and one day, I forget why exactly although I don't think there was a why, he got two other kids, ones I knew pretty well and had a fairly positive relationship with I thought to hold me against a wall before punching me in the ribs.
If you can walk away from a few incidents sort of like that without trust issues, I applaud you for being stronger than I am. I was probably always going to be a little eccentric, I've never been formally diagnosed with autism but it's a damn wonder how not, but had I been raised a little differently and/or been born just a little later I'd have had much better odds at not being a fuckup who's afraid of meeting people.

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>>45694607
Not the same anon, but STEM jobs tend to be pretty sperg-safe. Lots of autism in STEM.

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>>45694607
security guards can get to be alone and do nothing all day

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>>45744880
NTA but I don't think I'm tall enough to be a security guard

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>>45661536
>Hopes for 2024?
none

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i wonder if i should get a job

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>verification knowndll failed 0xc000012f c000021a

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>>45688009
Those "ancestors" were likely degraded human off-shoots.
Humanity is ultimately too different, spiritually as well.

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>>45661536
>How has the NEET life treated you in 2023?
Got into the NEET life not by choice, but because health problems worsening. Tried to keep myself occupied by cooking, cleaning and welp, doing women's job but better and trying to take it easy but it's kinda hard...
>Hopes for 2024?
Not dying form my heart sickness and exit the NEET life and going back to my nature walks and observing stuff happening.
I hope everyone is in good health and happy 2024 year in late as I am just a lurker and don't really know how to talk to people.

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>>45699264
That's a lot of spins to say that multiple types of ultimately irrational reasoning give mutually contradicting answers no matter the age.
Emotions are irrational only to those who don't measure them, being rational doesn't mean being correct.

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>>45744950
security jobs don't necessarily include being a bodyguard, i worked security before and all my colleagues were old alcoholics (although they weren't allowed to drink on the job), i was the youngest there and sort of stuck out like a sore thumb but noone seemed to really care, the only major interactions i had were with the people i switched shifts with and for the majority of my time spent at that job i was completely alone
you're essentially there to watch over your post (for company property insurance purposes) and nothing more, if something happens you call the police nobody expects you to fight anyone

[Anonymous No.]

I hate job finding so much lads

[Anonymous No.]

I'm really apprehensize about my life anons I have no skills, no mental drive, and I'm unbelievable anxiety ridden and lazy. I'm bound to kill myself in a few years at most

[Anonymous No.]

I miss being a NEET.
I felt like I was wasting my time but now that I got a job I literally feel nothing. I just clock in, clock out and can't even enjoy games anymore because I don't have the time to get immersed before it's too late and I gotta get ready for another day of wagecucking.

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>>45769258
I wish I had a drive to go into a hobby or something, make

[Anonymous No.]

I was NEET/hikkikomori from December 2010 until April 2022. I yearn for it now.

[Anonymous No.]

I am a very slow low energy person so a job where people expect me to do alot and fast really sucks the energy out of me.
I hate it.
Having a car and being able to buy whatever I want is nice, but is it worth being pushed around all day?
I dont think so.
I wish I could get out and go back to how things used to be, but if I quit now my family is gonna hate me and im gonna ruin my chances should I ever snap out of this waking come I have been in the last couple of years.
If the short time I was able to be a NEET was really the best time I am going to have as an adult I dont see the point in continuing.

[Anonymous No.]

This lifestyle is seriously turning my brain and body to mush. It's the same process that turns a newly retired, healthy 55 year old man into a vegetable who can only sit on the sofa and watch Family Feud. Almost feels like torture to be stuck like this

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>>45771511
You can do anything in your free time, if you choose to do nothing thats on you

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>>45771747
Can I do you

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>>45771511
>I don't know what to do with my time unless I'm told what to do

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>>45675726
Only had one summer job 8 years ago. Currently in college but it's entirely remote.

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I feel like im doing the wrong thing no matter what it is

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>>45775517
I feel this way too. My life is bleak and I don't expect it to get any better.

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>>45775517
>>45775774
I know the pain as well. All my life I feel like there is something off about everything that I do that others can sense

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>>45756046
Do security jobs looks good on a resume?

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>>45775938
Depends how much bullshit you can make up to make it sound good
For example, you can say it proves you have discipline and can stay on task for long periods of time easily. Everyone lies on these things, provided you don't make it obvious you're lying it won't hurt you.

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>>45771747
>>45773042
Because you have money duh
A broke NEET can only play games and watch anime

[Anonymous No.]

I can no longer take it easy. It is simply not possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45776573
library/ebooks are free
instruments can be had for very cheap
paper+pencil for drawing is very cheap
exercise can be done for free
cooking can even reduce your costs
Stop making excuses.

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>>45691110
>life just gets worse every year

That's how it is, even IF you were a super billionaire with all the fame and fortune of the world, no amount of money can spare you from the death of your parents, the end of everything you love and the collapse of your own health.

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>>45778274
sure but if you're rich chances are you're prolonging your own life and even parents/grandparents by getting them surgeries and shit so you know. I'd like to get my grandmother a surgery for her back but that's not happening any time soon. so she'll become less mobile. her mind is starting to go. whereas if I were a super billionare uh. she'd be walking normal. probably be not be senile for another 10 years etc.

I stopped being a NEET a while ago. got a tooth pulled recently that was infected, guaranteed if I wasn't working still I would have killed myself from that pain, jesus fucking christ.

If I were a super billionaire I would still have that tooth lol. even if I were huh. sure life can always get worse and worse but yknow. money is a fucking super power. money prolongs happiness and health very literally.

[Anonymous No.]

because with money there is no such thing as collapse. just a graceful fall. without it everything is drastic and world changing.

all NEETs please watch your health. jesus I couldn't imagine what I would have done had I still been a NEET with that tooth infection. the pain was radiating so much I couldn't live without a mouth full of water while the rest of my face just burnt anyways. the ER told me they couldn't do anything. all they did was give me antibiotics and I lived off it for 2 months.
somehow I got sleep by holding water in my mouth for like 15 seconds, swallowed, sat up and got more water, laid back down. loop on. somehow fell asleep like that. crazy shit.

if you have bad teeth don't be a NEET. work a little, suck dick, beg. whatever you can. thank god I had some money to get that fucker pulled. what the hell.

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>>45776573
with that mindset ngmi.
you can do so much that doesnt require money

[Anonymous No.]

>>45712953
A picture of his excrements. You can look on Warosu if you're into scat.

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>>45778417
To not have that kind of problem, not eating sugar is even more efficient than brushing your teeth a million time a day.
If you don't have the money, just don't make yourself at risk for these kind of illnesses.

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>>45780544
or just get a sugar mommy salary woman from tokyo to send you free shit/ pay your medical bills. if you're a slender young gaijin it's easy to pick up japanese hags. I'm dating 3 right now. I'm 25, half asian. have long hikki hair. they all find it "adorable" that I'm a NEET and want me to come live with them. I fucking might dude. lol. sugar. learn japanese and suck titty. if anyone recognizes this hi. been like a year but I AM DOING WELL.

who the fuck is going to diet like that? no disrespect. isn't it kind of insanely hard to even avoid sugar? I'm a veggie lover. I wonder if I could do it. but I need my coffee sweetened.

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>>45781011
this is also my plan, and it doesnt have to be japanese, but i'm afraid i'm not cute enough to put this shit on. it's hard to be a gigolo neet.

[Anonymous No.]

In this 2024 I decided to try to improve my energy so I can get more out of my hobbies. I started by not drinking coffee anymore since I'm pratically dependant on it.
I want to get some exercise by running in my area (since it's almost the only form of exercise that I actually enjoy) and while I appreciate seeing the scenary, feeling the wind and stuff I can't stand seeing and hearing people outside. I get so annoyed, scared and jealous that I don't even feel like a normal functioning human anymore.
Some sports are fun but I have no friends to play with and the normies that are into this stuff would probably hate me for sucking and having no charisma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45781011
you're no hikki NEET, you're just a deadbeat sociopath normalfag

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>>45781699
I don't want to be around people. People come across as disingenious, and I feel like I'm just pretending to enjoy their company.

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>>45661839
>>45664963
I would say it depends on the job itself.
>Worked at Walmart as a Cashier literally wanted to kill myself and gave a 2 week notice after 6 months.
>Worked as a Cashier at a Smoke Shop, the chillest job ever with hardly any customers and all you do is ring up customers and bring in a box or two of supplies every 2 weeks.
But i had to quit the Smoke Shop job due to the place allowing smoking indoors and everyone would light up cigs than just smoke weed. I am considering going back to a different one that has no smoking indoors or a chill grocery job that is not a franchise place.

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>>45661536
>How has the NEET life treated you in 2023?
The first time i have ever been really sick and had some health problems i needed to recover from in my early 30's. I had health issues with my nose that turned out to be Sinus Related(To this day i believe COVID caused this) and had to see an ENT get the surgery done with Balloon Dilation, and sinusplasty to help me breathe out my nose, also had my upper GI checked due to me having acid reflux that was getting worse than usual to where i would be in pain for hours after a meal. It turns out that my GI was thin and they needed to stretch it out with a balloon procedure as well, of course they did not say anything but i did research surgery codes of the procedures they did and that came up. Ever since then i recovered throughout the whole year and now almost virtually a year later i feel a lot better.
Hopes for 2024?
Getting back into the job world again with something more laid back. I do miss my old job i worked for 2 years, i could surf 4chan, type to people whenever for the most part if nobody was around, and it was just dead for most days anyways. But my health declined and i kind of had to quit anyways.

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>>45781699
Number one advice i can give you for energy is to stay clear of all Sugary drinks, orange juice, try to go for more Chicken, Steak, and less processed foods, if you do not know how to make some yourself, just try family restaurants and order out. Also just drink water daily. Sure it sucks flavor wise, but eventually you do get used to it.

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>>45780544
Drinking milk (especially raw) and exercising your jaw help a lot too. I healed a cavity over the last 1.5 years this way.
I think dentists are just a scam that prey on people with bad diets.
>>45781011
It's really not hard, you get over cravings within a week and food that isn't ultra-processed leaves you feeling much better. Tastes a lot better too.

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>>45785868
I'll give you a jaw exercise with some milk ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>45785895
>>45785868
Meet up record it and post it here pls

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>>45775774
You can always make metal lyrics!
MY LIFE IS BLEEEEEEEEAK
I'M LYING BY A CREEEEEEK
SUFFERING IN A BLINK
SO EEEENDLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES~!
I LOOK TO THE SKYYYYYYYYY
IT COMES, SO DIVINEEEEEE
I'LL BE THERE, SOON THIS TIME
I'LL KNOOOOOW IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT~!
BUT SPLURGE SO BIZARRE
BRINGS BACK ME DOWN THE LINE
AND SOOO DO I LOOK BELOW
IN HOOOOORROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR~!
A CROW'S PORCHED ON MY DIIIIIIIIIIICK
IT RAISES NOW ITS CRUEL BEEEEAAAAK
A TWIST, A SLIDE, A SCREAM, AND BLOOOD
THE SPLURGEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON~!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUhhhhhhh
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa
OU UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA~!
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
OH MY, MY MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAACK
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
CROW'S BEATING UPON MY MEAT
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
DESPAIR'S IN SYNC WITH MY HEART-BEAT
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
I CUM AND BLOOOD, MY MEAT IS PUDDIIIIIIIIII~
!IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGAH!
Oh
OH!
OOOOH NOW
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
DESPAIR IS ALL I FEEEEEEEL (so jobless...)
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
DESPAIR IS ALL I KNOOOOOOW (SO LOVELESS!!!)
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
AND SO I SCREAM MY CHEEEEEST~ (SO WORTHLEEEESSS!!!!!!!)
BEAK-BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
AS I FAAAAAAAAAAAAALL TO NEEEEEEEEEEEETDOOOOOM~! (NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET)


Just don't scream gutturally too much, lest some granny decides to invite an exorcist and beat you with some particularly heavy kitchen implements!

[Anonymous No.]

Also Aya's crow, right?

[Anonymous No.]

I have been taking edibles every day for a year and the fact that I've been a neet for more than 10 years doesn't even occur to me anymore.
I'm completely oblivious but it beats drinking away what's left of my health.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been drinking coffee nearly everyday and I sleep like 5-6 hours every day and I feel terrible because of it

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>>45786139
i've started coping with weed bout a year ago as well. it's been fun, but it makes me kind of lonely. i want to get over my mental illnesses and baggage, but i don't have enough discipline to do any of the minor things i've set out to do for myself, like checking out local interest groups, chatting with someone on the non-anonymous part of the internet, or learning the things i want to. weed kind of exacerbates the problem, but it's the only thing i look forward to as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>45791371
>doing direct mind altering drugs at all
>"kind of"
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>45791449
you can use drugs without being emotionally dependent on them

[Anonymous No.]

I'm learning IT stuff to get out of being a NEET. The gap on my resume is severe unless I lie and say I did doordash

[Anonymous No.]

>>45792155
They ruin physiology regardless, physiological dependence is a bitch to deal with for most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45792163
>IT
Are you smart at least? IT stuff isn't for lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45792189
weed is not physiologically addictive, i don't really feel any physical effects whenever i stop smoking it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45792298
Effects don't need to be overtly noticeable, introduction of extra chemicals over time to your brain alone can do. As far as I remember weed, ultimately, makes people mushy brained.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys my skin quality was starting to deteriorate and look like a corpse, and I had no idea wtf was going on, but it turns out I was moving around so little that my circulation got super bad and wrecked my appearance. Just walking 20 minutes a day fixed it completely. What a trip

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>>45792972
yeah, I used to literally walk about 2-4 hours every night. I'd entertain myself while walking by listening to music, talking to friends on the phone.

if you have no friends you can probably just listen to a podcast or something.

but uh fucking move around a lot. I highly recommend looking at some basic exercises you can do for your upper body even if you have no equipment. do at least 3 for your core, upper and arms, and walk. whenever you first wake up, and at night to still stay out of the sun to protect your beautiful pale complexion. so on. otherwise you will meet sever complications down the road and be in horrible pain.

I'd say jog but I've been stopped by the cops before jogging at 1am. heh.
so do that earlier on. especially if you're a NEET yknnow, with a very NEET appearance. in my case... long dark hair. poorly shaven at the time. yea. running around in the middle of the night in ill fitting clothing. you lose a lot of self awareness from staying indoors for months to years at a time.

well I hope everyone is moving around. don't fucking die guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>45661536
I think last year was the year I've finally accepted and be at peace with the fact I am going to be a NEET from now on. This year I am going to try and get my life sort around that fact, sorting out my finances, rearranging my room, pick up cheap hobbies that get me out of the house a few times a week, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45795886
I'm a former NEET, 7 months now out of the life. I still haven't even cleaned my room or got any of my shit in order. haven't done taxes in 9 years, grandpa's dead so gotta pay to get them done now. life is gay as hell but I'd off myself if I became homeless so guess this is as good as it's getting for now LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>45795751
it's unsettling how quickly the body deteriorates without exercise
I'm mid 20s, after 10 months of NEETing my hand skin is slightly looser
probably reversible but this stuff is no joke man, cardio is so important

[Anonymous No.]

Dont wanna keep living dont wanna die either

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like to go to the gym I feel like everyone is judging and mocking me for my ugly appearance and short stature

I just wanna be alone man

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/pIfivmo_GS8?si=4uPXMjniQ0Uw0xMi

[Anonymous No.]

>>45792972
Moving everyday for at least 30 minutes is important for your body and brain. There isn't one organ is your body that is not negatively impacted by the lack of exercise.
As a NEET, I walk while reading, listen to audiobooks or play ping pong with the local grandpas.
Little habits like these are enough to keep you healthy and not spend money for health problems that can be avoided.

[Anonymous No.]

Lost my NEET status after 6 solid years this year
Don't do it its a massive mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>45800610
>I don't like to go to the gym I feel like everyone is judging and mocking me for my ugly appearance and short stature just wanna be alone man
It's fucked up that this is your situation. It's not even your fault. But you can still workout at home at least. Pushups, pullups or dumbells you buy. You can upgrade to a home gym if possible and you enjoy it. Hope things start getting better for you.

[Anonymous No.]

Hitting mid 20s as a NEET really sucks. A few years ago, no matter how poorly I slept or ate, I looked and felt great. Now, I have to eat a good diet and exercise just to maintain the standard I'm used to. Otherwise I just fall apart. Everything else sucked before, but it was like "Oh at least I'm healthy".

People act like life is some complex thing, but it's really simple: Your life quality = sum of your joys - sum of your pains. As you get older, the pains increase and the joys diminish, so you better make damn sure you find a good source of joy. And it's been really hard to find that. Not good with girls, my passions aren't profitable, video games and anime suck now... most of us are in the same boat, I bet. I don't really hate living, but it's like, "when's the fun gonna start?" I keep searching for that spark which could make me love life again, but until then no point in just coasting along on NEETbux, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45813105
What do you think brings joy to normalfags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45813105
>People act like life is some complex thing
It certainly can be, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45813267
The world is 100% sculpted around them, tailored for them in every respect. Of course they have lots of joys, they can walk outside and find dozens of similar people to relate to, all the movies and shows resonate with them. It must feel so good, to live in a world that was made for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45680509
One of those interviews paid off, but I have to move halfway across the world to do a PhD now.
I'm really nervous but this is something I need to do. My life has been on hold for long enough. I just hope they like Touhou in Hong Kong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45813299
A rather strong, self-assured statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45813529
Meh, I speak from experience. I was normal once, then something changed inside. That the world is built around the average person isn't really a daring statement

[Anonymous No.]

>>45813674
"Experience", you say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45814478
I wasn't a normalfag, but I was healthy. Then I became schizo. Such is life

[Anonymous No.]

>>45814588
Mmmm. There are a number of answers to your situation, some are esoterically unpleasant.
At any rate, the issue with your chosen statement is that an "average person" doesn't really exist, certainly not without severe detail loss, and certainly not on a planetary scale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45795751
Where did you get your friends? Still from high school? Or from some hobby group?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45814700
Doesnt have to be on a planetary scale. Anon's country would have its own average that he is referring to. And besides that ''average'' does exist. Its in the word.

[Anonymous No.]

I returned to working for the first time in 11 years. I feel like I'm having some kind of break. schizophrenia does not run in my family. nothing like it does. but it's like the experience is bringing upon some kind of schizoactive disorder... I'm just saying a random word that best describes what is going on. I think I've gone delusional in a lot of ways. and I have reoccuring nightmares of getting phone calls by voices I recognize, i know who they are. but they tell me someone has died. and they're crying telling me. the stress wakes me up... "xxxxx has died, I'm sorry..." and the shock is so powerful I wake up and have to glance at my phone. I don't want to make an actual blogpost so I'll just stop here. I thought I got used to working. it's been about 7 months maybe. but all the sudden I'm having all these problems. I made a co-worker cry because I'm so distant from her. but I don't even like her, because she is fat. I didn't think she'd cry because of me though. I kept ignoring her for like a month before I gave her a fake phone number and then she told me I wasn't replying to her texts. then she came to work crying one day and didn't look at me. I didn't think someone would care so much. I'm so awkward anyways, I haven't even made a friend. my smalltalk goes no-where with people.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm 24 and never worked but I'll have to start this year otherwise I won't get NEETbux anymore...
Either volunteering for something and I get paid by the state for 6-8 months (easy but the pay is low)
either a part time job.
...
..
.
I wonder how tiring it'll be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45819254
if its not full time its usually not terrible
i did part time for a while and only working 4 hours a day is a breeze compared to full time
just wish it started later

[Anonymous No.]

>>45771511
>newly retired, healthy 55 year old man
lol if you can afford to retire at 55 you probably had to work so hard your brain has already turned to mush

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820391
It differs by country to country I imagine

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>>45817175
It exists only as a generalized abstraction, which becomes progressively hard to define the more you're willing to examine people's actual lives on case to case basis.
You may find it that the so-called average person would have a comparable amount of skeletons in the closet similar to that anon who made the comparison to begin with.
Either way it matters little, as the world isn't so much made for "average persons" as it simply exists. People make their own worlds to live in, or it was made for them, by any socio-economic-etc interests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820522
I think you're over complicating it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820653
It is what it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820653
At any rate, I suppose "it can't be helped", so let's leave it at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45819268
don't really want to spend all the little energy of the day I have on something I don't like

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820856
If you need some money to survive its a better alternate than a full day of slaving
you don't fee like you sold all your time along with your soul as badly

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820903
What about freeters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820734
Eet eez whut eet eez.
>>45820745
You forgot to add ''fufu'' to "it can't be helped".

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820903
I don't need money to survive, I just need it for my hobbies
baito is the best choice for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>45821162
~ara ara

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820522
You write like a faggot, goddamn.

[Anonymous No.]

Everything will be
Just
Fine.

Trust in that which lies beyond your perception.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish this thread was more active. It’s comfy here

[Anonymous No.]

>>45824328
I'd say it's pretty active. post something if you're bored or just post a schizophrenic rant if you want to vent. there's usually other threads too. chances are most itt are the same people on /a/ and other /jp/ threads anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45822855
That's not how faggotry works, and the sheer idea that your mind instantly associates any attempts at complexity, no matter how subpar, with fags speaks some things about you, some pitiful, some plain ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

hopefully the meds help me quiet my mind a bit more because i genuinely feel so retarded in normal interactions and it makes me spiral thinking about it after. hoping 2024 will be a good year. i am planning to buy more figures and artbooks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45824599
Yea, me

>>45824746
Good luck, started some meds this year. Going much better than before

[Anonymous No.]

>>45822855
Left leaning white guy video essay type speak.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone else feel like, if you really tried, you could do something amazing like the greatest artwork of the 21st century? It's not really a rational feeling. Since childhood I've just sensed I was "special", the feeling stays in the back of my mind even if I ignore it. Which is crazy for a NEET with 0 accomplishments, no degree, and no skills or experience. But it's less a sense of "You ARE destined for this great thing" and more "If everything lined up right, you could do this amazing thing, but instead things are slightly off so you're just a burn-out loser sorry"

But naturally no one can understand what you mean. To them, you're a loser with delusions of grandeur. And honestly that's fair. You can't rest on your laurels your whole life, telling yourself "Just wait until I finally get going, I'm gonna shock the whole world once I do!" You coast on that feeling of being special, and you're terrified to actually start anything because it might just prove you're average. And if you're a normal, unspecial loser, then it gets really depressing. But you have to suck it up and try anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45827023
when I used to get really tired, that's when I'd draw my best art and make my best compositions. but the past year or so, being sleep deprived does nothing for me. I think being tired just puts you in a completely state of mind and you can have this jolt of energy that comes from something like manic depression. Idk maybe I was having episodes and these are the same episodes you're having. for me it's gone away and just does more harm and I realized I have to concentrate more rather than relying on sleep deprived fueled schizomania. I'm not even sure if we're talking about the same thing either because even right now I'm actually extremely sleep deprived and I wish I could be having what you're describing. instead I'll have to get some sleep I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45827023
>Since childhood I've just sensed I was "special"
I have felt since childhood that I'm special not because I was capable of anything great but because I'm not capable at all. It feels like I'm uniquely persecuted by the world and everything beyond simply for existing and that I'm just not meant to do anything with my life; that circumstances always seem to line up to ruin any chance I would have otherwise of doing something with my life. It's like I was never supposed to be here, like I should've died when I was born 11 weeks early rather than survived

[Anonymous No.]

>>45675726
>Are there people who haven't worked in years or not worked at all in the NEET thread?
Hi! I was born in 1980 and have never held any form of employment. Between late DXed autism (Asperger's wasn't even in the DSM when things got real for me and had to leave school and homeschool). Had to look after a parent for over a decade as caregiver, did a few degrees including a CS BS where I literally did perfectly, top of the class but employment lottery makes no sense to my autism compared to school. Inherited a very nice ($400k) family home and receive interim bennies while my lawyer secures my AutismBux and retro.

Fucking pandemic put off my academic interests, as I want an MS/PhD to have some interesting activity but also normalized remote MS programs so thats the plan along with volunteering for more to do. I guess I have figured out how to make my autism work for me and don't have much to complain about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45827559
Nah it's not a manic episode. Maybe it runs in the family, my dad was the same. He always believed he could become a millionaire businessman, and had temporary success in the Dotcom bubble but an addiction messed him up. It sounds like a delusion but he could joke about it and stuff.

But the annoying part is it's just a feeling. No guidance on how to actually do something great, just the vague assurance that you can. So it's all endless daydreaming trying to figure out how to start, but you're not sure the starting point you hope for is even real.

But somehow, I believe I'm inching closer. At a snail's pace. Like once the stars align someday, it'll all click incredibly hard and I can spend years building on it with religious devotion. It kinda keeps me alive honestly. I have no dreams in life besides this, I just want to see it spring to life

[Anonymous No.]

>>45827023
I >>45829748 had a Harvard affiliated neuroscientist professor tell me I would do great things and I try to live up to her expectations in my independent research interests - simply reading all I can on my own, holding myself to a high standard all on my own which is hard with aspie exec. dysfuction at times. And what metric do we use for success? I feel like I'm nearly as good as many PhDs at this point in my studies, but publishing shit or starting a biz or gaining fame requires interface with the outside I'm trying to get. I can hold my own in conversation with folks that trace their academic lineage to the likes of Alonzo Church (a founder of theoretical CS) but outside school have nobody to professionally interact with so it's all inside my head.

"How many wonderful things have perished in the world from lack of will to survive" - paraphrasing that dude with a metal claw in Enter the Dragon

"If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound" - point of these quotes being that only in action might we perhaps get this self actualization and have to tackle, maybe fight, the world or else perish unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45829841
Life is about luck; and a lot of it is about personal connections to other, more successful people. Sometimes it's a friend that helps you gain greater success in a position at a corporation or business, or sometimes it's nepotism within a family.

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>>45829841
That's tricky. Without the educational background you're gonna be expected to prove yourself in a big way. Even if you're functioning at a PhD level, I honestly wouldn't get your hopes up for getting any recognition or communication from academia. Individual academics can be cool but as a whole they're kinda cultish and bandwagon-y

[Anonymous No.]

>>45661536
i spent 6 months NEET last year im going for full year wish me luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>45675764
how have been NEET for that long do you have an income

[Anonymous No.]

>>45830060
God speed brother
stopped being a neet 4 months ago, have fun for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>45820522
This is true, I think a lot of people want to think of themselves as special for being hikki/NEET alone, putting it down to a yukkuri frame of mind, without understanding that the pressures pushing people to become reclusive and depressed find their response in everyone. Obviously not everyone is made for the NEET lifestyle, but tons of people are subjected to the worst parts of school system, family issues, the nightmarish search for a job, terrible working conditions, low pay, and alienation from any form of community and their work. Everyone has some kind of trauma, and among them, lots of people would become NEETs if they had the means and breathing room to do so, especially within gen Z that pretty much has no future prospect of something as basic as buying a house or getting a job where they're not getting treated like trash and have some level of security. Nobody willingly works as a fucking Uber driver

[Anonymous No.]

>>45827023
Accomplishments as required bear no relevance to competence as is.
Either you're overconfident, or you are not.
A any rate that does not make you special. Or perhaps it does, in the same way any failure is unique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45826592
Your questionable choice in videos aside, those do not exist as a category to apply here, and political wing idiocy is just Western garbage.
Simply put, their linguistical ineptitudes come from either spiritual issues or their minds being in disarray, not from their beliefs or opinions.
It indicates deeper issues, the same way the issues of NEETs here, some particularly questionable people on that mess called crystalcafe, or an inconsiderable amount of imageboarders are derivative of other things comparatively few of them are even willing to acknowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45830350
*not an inconsiderable
It'd be wrong that all people here possess issues, after all. But one can get an impression that many do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45826576
glad to hear you’re doing better! hope it goes the same for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>45823059
>Trust in that which lies beyond your perception.
If you trust in what you perceive, that means you believe that the finite things you perceive are absolute (i.e infinite). There is an endless depth of things going on under the hood that we aren't aware of at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45831412
what game is that? I love PS2 graphics so much

[Anonymous No.]

job hunting is depressing

[Anonymous No.]

>>45831412
Such kind of comprehensions is ill-compatible with weak spirited people, and is potentially terrible for those who are remotely morally good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45827023
>Does anyone else feel like, if you really tried, you could do something amazing like the greatest artwork of the 21st century?
No, I do like making things but the older I get the more I realize I have zero desire to please anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45838914
took me 2 years before I got an interview. I tried a book store over and over again. thought fuck it and made up that I worked at a grocery store the passed 5 years thus getting rid of my job gap and adding the retail experience they were looking for for the job when I hadn't even worked there to begin with. it got me an interview and hired like instantly. just so I can man a register and organize books. fucking pricks.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm 21 years old, but time passes by so quick I'll be 30 in no time

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844030
yes. I remember being that young. when I realized I was hitting my mid 20s I couldn't believe how long it'd already been. it's crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844030
How quickly time passes by is fully in your control. If you want it to last, seek novelty and avoid repetition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844014
job gap is a big issue, but unlike most neets I actually meet and exceed the qualifications for the job I want.
I thought the job market was supposed to be good?
quite disheartening, I have to look for a job despite my will and even when im qualified and put in my best it seems impossible
conections are literally everything and I have none

[Anonymous No.]

>>45833288
To me that looks more like 3DS than PS2.
I think that's one of the Zelda games, probably the OoT remake or the MM remake. Note that both actually suck and lost a lot of charm compared to their original N64 counterparts, especially the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45818045
>but I don't even like her, because she is fat
That's respectable, fat """people""" don't have souls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844782
despite having goals, a plan, passion, ongoing employment. i don't really know what to do with myself there's a constant feeling of tiredness. is this what getting old feels like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45845943
すみません didn't mean to reply, am not fat

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844782
thank you, I fucking hate fatties so much. it's depressing that since the 90s, society has had to go into denial calling literal whales "thicc" and finding them sexually attractive. while simultaneously those people would drop their 200lbs bride for a hot skinny babe regardless of whether she were mildly anorexic-muscular.

I won't bully a bitch (publicly) but what I will say outloud and off the boards is jesus christ, we're fucked if we don't out obesity and start loading these whales into labor camps where they can be encouraged to burn off their fat and create infostructure for skinny princesses and kings. seriously you should just be seen as none human and literally enslaved for being blob. this is getting ridiculous. you can go home and reemerge into society if you survive and burn off your fat.

and I feel the need to say this shit about fatties. not NEETs. I'm not even NEET anymore. I have respect for that population and all the problems they face. but if you're blob and not trying to overcome that then go build a fucking bridge, jumping off it is highly encouraged if you get too tired to hit your quota. fucking fatass.

[Anonymous No.]

2023 was the year of laziness, depression and underperformance for me

i guess my goals would be getting good at piano again so i can play that book of chopin stuff someone gave me awhile back, buckling down and learning real&complex analysis competently for a uni program, and just... not waxing and waning between sleeping 12 hours a day and not sleeping for 3 days would be nice

sayonara for now /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844736
>I thought the job market was supposed to be good?
In my country, they're constantly complaining about a shortage of people in every sector yet even for low-entry slave work like warehouse jobs, they'll ask you stupid meme questions during interviews and expect you not to have a gap of more than a few weeks at best in your CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45847017
I hope employers that do that shit go bankrupt

[Anonymous No.]

>>45847017
There is no general "skill shortage" , only for senior level positions. Its pure bullshit
there are hordes of young people applying for positions where i work, they just have no experience but no one wants someone without le 2 years experience meme
You must enter the job on day 1 and know how to do everything with perfect accuracy or they dont want you

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844566
retard 0 self awareness understand nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>45846937
Being lazy and unproductive in your jobs should be encouraged

[Anonymous No.]

>>45848610
I understand everything, don't worry about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45844030
Same. Just turned 21 last Saturday. It's already over for me though

[Anonymous No.]

>>45847275
What's the point trying to get a job then? This bullshit is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

just got a ban from some small kiddie image board for "rude posts." what the fuck? and its some shithole supposedly for "NEETs & Otaku!"

Ztards seriously can't even allow mild banter on their anonymous forums? that's how retarded they are? you can't be "rude" to each other?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45850484
We should kiss each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>45852042
I agree. As long as I get cuddles though

[Anonymous No.]

>>45852095
I'm 34 and would like to join the two of you if you would not mind. but I'd like you to wear some adorable atire that I have for such occasions,
one of you shall wear the school swimsuit, with knee-high socks. and the other will wear buruma (the taisoufuku). I prefer the blue ones, personally.
now you may both kiss atop my tummy. I am very lonely and would enjoy this.

[Anonymous No.]

My goal is to live a long life NEET life without ever working. I'm freeloading on my parents but I wonder what will be my solution in the future.
I've secured the family house but I guess I should start secure some govbux instead of spending them all on otaku stuff.
I'm 24 right now, good shape, do 2-3 hours of sport a week, 1 hour of walk everyday. I eat well, a lot of veggies, organic food etc...
I hope 4chan will still be there when I'll be old so I can call myself an oldfag but I'm confident there will be an alternative if the website ever closes. I just hope it will be a solid successor and that we won't be scattered in too many different places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45855171
what are you here from the 2016 normalfag takeover? 24 and not a oldfag is a bad sign. where the hell are all the kids that were here when they were like 8 was I the only one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45855241
>what are you here from the 2016 normalfag takeover?
y-yeah I saw a youtube video about the exploits of 4channers at making Shia Laboeuf seethe in the end of 2018 and I started browsing /pol/, which I completely left after the start of covid then browsed /tv/ & other boards... but now it's mostly /a/ or /jp/, I seldom visit other boards. Sometimes a bit of /x/ for the schizo, the succ and tulpa threads.

I didn't know there were a lot of kids browsing 4chan back in the days.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one that finds it weird how popular the NEET lifestyle has become in recent years? Even normalfags know about us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45855621
Good thing you left /pol/ when you did man. I started out on /r9k/ at 16 in 2019 and it was already headed down the shitter. These days I browse /jp/, /ck/, /o/, /k/, /a/, and /adv/ for job stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45661839
By far, the worst part about working. By far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45855839
Because it has never been harder to have a 'normal' life since at least WWII. Jobs cater towards hyper-extroverts by mostly prioritising social skills, leaving everyone else feeling alienated. The education system leaves people soul-drained husks of their former selves. Getting a family or a house is a pipe-dream for most men so you might as well just stay with your parents, there's no point in working your ass off if you only need money for food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45857738
Also I think there are too few job positions to fill in for an ever-growing population. Before we know it we will have assassins hired just to kill someone so we can have an open job position. All this just for a wage that can barely afford to pay 50% of your rent. This is why I'm pro-abortion. Kill them fetuses before we have a globe full of 20 billion people and overpopulated urban shitholes everywhere you look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45857772
population growth is falling of a cliff in most the world
even some giga shitholes in africa are going from 6 children per family down to like 3

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if im gonna die because of my trashy body getting sick , alcohol or my own hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>45857799

[Anonymous No.]

>>45857842
they constantly have to readjust that meme stat because it keeps getting slower (also from the UN btw)
the growth rate will probably keep dropping more than expected as its been doing
also don't confuse slower growth with regression

[Anonymous No.]

>>45857126
I've browsed r9k for like one day and that place looked depressing enough for me to never go back. Worse part of 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45858040
also its basically entirely concentrated in like 10 shitholes everyone else is either stable or dropping
don't get me wrong though i also wish at least half of everywhere just disappeared

[Anonymous No.]

>>45855621
You missed out. I started in 2014 and the site changed super rapidly in those years, old board culture was still alive but definitely dying. I think the election made each board lose its unique identity, now its basically the same generic 4chan personality on each board, people are definitely less interesting now, there used to be some unique weirdos on this place

[Anonymous No.]

I've only become a proper NEET for the first time in my life this week, in my mid-20s. I've had issues that could have turned me a shut-in NEET a long time ago but I forced myself to keep going for my toxic parents' sake. I have dropped out several times and have done several dead-end jobs that made me miserable. I can't bring myself to do that anymore and am going to see a psychologist soon to see if they can turn me into the wagecuck that they always wanted me to be. Being a NEET was a dream for teenage me but I have already mostly lost interest in the hobbies I had so now it's mostly just listening music and refreshing the same handful of websites just to have some visual stimuli.

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>>45675726
My life has sort of been lived in reverse. Instead of NEETing at an acceptable age then finding "success", I achieved a decent amount first (university, good job) then turned into a giga truNEET later on. I was a full on wageslave in my early 20s and assumed (with despair lol) it would just be like that forever. tl;dr had some kind of mental breakdown around 23, quit, neetbux, never went back to work. It's been about 6 years now.
It's funny cause I don't use /jp/ at all now, but it was my home board a long time ago, I remember when NSJ was culling NEET threads and there was only one (1) "janny-allocated NEET thread" allowed at any one time. Little phrases like that have stuck in my head like 10 fucking years later. I used to read about NEETs on here when I was like 21 working in a shitty office, with curiosity and of course some jealousy. I really never thought I'd live this life myself, but here we are. I just happened to open this board now and saw this thread and got an urge to write this. For all I know the jay could be a normalfag board by now. I hope not.
There's been a couple of times I made haphazard steps into working again - one time I even made it all the way through an interview, sent them all my ID, got a fucking start date lol. Then at the last minute I just emailed the guy and made up some bullshit reason I couldn't do it. Another time I turned up to a training day, they sat me down at a desk to show me how things work, a few hours in I just said I was going out for a smoke, and fucking walked home and ignored all their calls. I don't know if I want to live this way ideally, but there's nothing else I can do. That office environment... the bright lights, the phones ringing, constant buzzing of human voices, it's embarrassing to admit how much of a defective human I am but I can't handle it. I forced myself through it for 3 years and my nerves are still recovering now. So I'm a NEET for now and I guess the foreseeable future.
The commutes... sitting on those fucking buses surrounded by normalfags. The small talk, invasive questions, constantly putting up a facade when I wanted to scream and go home. Fuck me.
>>45673710
>If you think you'll hate it, well... you probably will.
Definitely. It's easy to start thinking the grass is greener. That goes both ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45675726
My life has sort of been lived in reverse. Instead of NEETing at an acceptable age then finding "success", I achieved a decent amount first (university, good job) then turned into a giga truNEET later on. I was a full on wageslave in my early 20s and assumed (with despair lol) it would just be like that forever. tl;dr had some kind of mental breakdown around 23, quit, neetbux, never went back to work. It's been about 6 years now.
It's funny cause I don't use /jp/ at all now, but it was my home board a long time ago, I remember when NSJ was culling NEET threads and there was only one (1) "janny-allocated NEET thread" allowed at any one time. Little phrases like that have stuck in my head like 10 fucking years later. I used to read about NEETs on here when I was like 21 working in a shitty office, with curiosity and of course some jealousy. I really never thought I'd live this life myself, but here we are. I just happened to open this board now and saw this thread and got an urge to write this. For all I know the jay could be a normalfag board by now. I hope not.
There's been a couple of times I made haphazard steps into working again - one time I even made it all the way through an interview, sent them all my ID, got a fucking start date lol. Then at the last minute I just emailed the guy and made up some bullshit reason I couldn't do it. Another time I turned up to a training day, they sat me down at a desk to show me how things work, a few hours in I just said I was going out for a smoke, and fucking walked home and ignored all their calls. I don't know if I want to live this way ideally, but there's nothing else I can do. That office environment... the bright lights, the phones ringing, constant buzzing of human voices, it's embarrassing to admit how much of a defective human I am but I can't handle it. I forced myself through it for 3 years and my nerves are still recovering now. So I'm a NEET for now and I guess the foreseeable future.
The commutes... sitting on those fucking buses surrounded by normalfags. The small talk, invasive questions, constantly putting up a facade when I wanted to scream and go home. Fuck me.
>>45673710
>If you think you'll hate it, well... you probably will.
Definitely. It's easy to start thinking the grass is greener. That goes both ways.

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>>45661536
Turned 28 this month. Been a NEET for 10 years, no education, never had a job. I want to kill myself every day. Would like to have a job but I have a bunch of mental health issues that prevent it.

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>>45855839
It's annoying. A lot of normalfags act like not leaving the house all weekend makes them a NEET. The pandemic didn't help, then everyone was sooo hikki XD.
But as >>45857738 said, the juice isn't worth the squeeze, so there has been an increase in bonafide NEETs.

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>>45860249
>That office environment
have you tried a physical labor job?

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>>45860249
>My life has sort of been lived in reverse. Instead of NEETing at an acceptable age then finding "success", I achieved a decent amount first (university, good job) then turned into a giga truNEET later on. I was a full on wageslave in my early 20s and assumed (with despair lol) it would just be like that forever. tl;dr had some kind of mental breakdown around 23
That's my exact situation right now, I'm >>45858884
Expect I would have loved to do an office job since my only options were doing physical labour with the trashiest, dumbest people around.

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>>45863107
You'd think that but then you deal with office politics and their retarded social dynamics
When I did warehouse work at least the other retards only did small talk at lunch because there wasn't an opportunity to do it any other time

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>>45863462
Not from my experience. Even if you don't get shit from your coworkers, it will be from your supervisor/employer because they look down on you. Which is even worse, because you can't really complain about it to higher-ups. The only way I see myself working again is if I can find a job where I can work alone.

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Haven't worked for 5 years now and almost a wizard. Life is good man.

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>>45860249
>achieved a decent amount first (university, good job)
>was a full on wageslave in my early 20s and assumed (with despair lol) it would just be like that forever.
That's were I am right now, at 25.
Spent less than a year after graduating as a NEET. Best time of my fucking life.
Took it easy, woke up at dawn with a cup of tea then drew for the rest of the day. I made some mean artgains in those months...

No neetbux in this country though so I'm praying I can setup some "passive" income sources. Apartments, rentals, whatever...
I can live pretty cheaply, I've come to realize

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>>45661536
>How has the NEET life treated you in 2023?
I made some online friends and started talking to people for the first time in years. It's been a double-edged sword because I still have trouble with people, like trust issues.

>Hopes for 2024?
Maybe I'll pick up a useful hobby/skill and finally figure out what to do with my life. Maybe try to get a job for the first time. I feel like I'm stuck in this limbo where I feel this necessity to get out of NEETdom, but I'm too scared to try because change is scary and people are scary.

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no reason to keep on going

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How do tall anons have trouble in life? Like, if you're tall everyone has more respect for you.

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>>45867968
Being tall doesn't matter if you're still autistic

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>>45867968
>if you're tall everyone has more respect for you.
Until you open your mouth and everyone realizes how much of an autistic retard you are.
It also doesn't help you getting a job.

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>>45661536
I wish I wasn't so damn retarded and could learn how to be a functioning human being.
Everything just feels like a blur, with no end in sight. I wish I could convince myself that human consciousness exists after death so I can end this goddamn nightmare.

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>>45661536
finally started to get sick of it by november. also feeling guilty for my mother as we're poor so i'm going to start to change. hoping to be able become a doctor but one thing at a time.

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>>45876670
Doctors in the United States are professional conmen too

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>>45668111
Sorry about your sister anon

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>>45786077
NTA but thank you anon, that gave me a hearty chuckle. I needed it.

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