/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

[Anonymous No.]

A place for discussion of the works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (in Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai – the Garden of Sinners
Kara no Kyoukai novel (in Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%A5%88%E9%A0%88%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93_%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C/index.html
English translations by cokesakto
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai Anime Movies
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (updated 2018-05-30)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
Fate hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files?p=3041785&viewfull=1#post3041785
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English Patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nUY3G5Z8tgBnfvELhbLiYhmLolDI2TwC/
French Patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french

Other works
>Angel Voice (A doujin anthology that contains the short novel "Notes." written by Nasu, and the Manga "clowick canaan-vail" drawn by Takeuchi.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Fate Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Fate Extra
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-mod/
>Fate Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

Other links
>Beast's Lair
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate/complete material II Character material.
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate Art Books
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nmo3TqWLRgvl9M7MxzuWKDe3rAP1LVut?
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca/
>TMdict
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm translation
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html

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[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Merem110/status/1348603598490406916

So apparently the audition for Tsukihime R happened a few years ago. Ciel's VA learned about Tsukihime and how to act her character out by reading the manga and watching the anime.

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>>32137091
>the remake has her love spaghetti

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>>32137091
>watching the anime
oh you mean carnival phantasm? yeah that was a good anime haha....

[Anonymous No.]

skateboarding with seibah

[Anonymous No.]

>>32137091
>>32137456
Actually now that I think about it, the seiyuu should've tried to see how Ciel's voiced in Melty Blood and Carnival too

[Anonymous No.]

>>32137692
Ciel's Melty Blood voice is 100% perfect. Gonna be skeptical of the newbie sadly.

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>>32138861
What do you think about Ciel's new voice in the trailer?

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>>32139144
Sounds decent but not enough to really tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>re-reading the final Mahoyo chapter and the scene after the credits
Even better the second time around. Well, all that's left is the omake chapter and then it's back to my backlog.

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So since Nasu wants to
>write a vampires story after being done with FGO
>make a RPG after finishing FGO and TsukiRe a.k.a his homework
What if we're getting Tsukihime 2 as an open-world RPG in the next 15 years?

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Will she get her route in the Remake?

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>>32147687
The announcement didn't answer the question. TM are faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

Magic is real.

[Anonymous No.]

Regular reminder that getting a Tsuki remake was a monkey’s paw wish with zero upsides.

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>>32151966
This, but some people just want dopamine now.

[Anonymous No.]

>page 9

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>>32151966
>zero upsides
If there's a sacchin route, that's an upside.

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>>32141395
Doesn't necessarily have to be Tsuki2, but the fact that TM created a youtube channel under the name "TYPE-MOON GAMES" implies they'll be working on more game projects (including visual novel obviously) in the future

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Sacchinfags will have to wait a little longer for the DLC

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>>32161093
>the DLC
the original anime TV series by ufotable you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>32161093
Please...

[Anonymous No.]

>Fukasawa is composing the remake
I wonder if he'll give everyone a theme like he did in UBW and Mahoyo.

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>>32157756
let it die

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>>32141395
I think when he said he wanted to make an RPG he was meaning FGO.
I know, it is laughable, but I think that's he went.
Also, assuming he wants to write kyuketsuki no ohanashi after FGO end and that we will have Tsukihime before FGO ending, we can assume he the vampire thing will be something else that is not Tsukihime near/far sides.
I bet Nasu wants to make his Castlevania.
Also, wasn't DDD something close to vampire story?

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>>32140314
did you reread it on french english or jap? I just finished reading the translation from hollow moon so I'm stuck on chapter 8, is there a full english translation?

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>>32169416
Jap of course.

>is there a full english translation
nope

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>>32168348
He probably meant Tsukihime 2 to be honest, he's been talking about that since 20 years ago
Not that he will ever actually do it.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>32169416
I was trying to work out how long the translation will take via their progress updates so far on discord. It's kinda hard to judge exactly, but when they decided to redo McJon's stuff and merged it into one chart, they were at 42% TL'd and 7% edited. This is in December of 2019.
Fast forward to now, it's at 82% and 55% respectively. Normally I would say they'll be done by the end of 2021, but it seems like their progress has slowed down a lot recently and they might drop everything when TsukiRe comes out.

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>>32140314
How many hours is the game? I've been putting it off forever but it's about time I dived in.

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>>32168348
Nasu mentioned FGO (+ Tsuki Remake) as the homework he had to finish before being able to make that RPG, so presumably the RPG should be something else instead of FGO or Tsukihime R

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>>32179168
Well 10 - 30 if you go by the vndb range. It depends on how fast you read, but something like that seems about right. It's not super long like F/SN.

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>>32179168
~20 on average.

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I remember reading about how Riddell is supposed to be the main antagonist of Mahoyo 2. Is it said by Nasu or just implied in Mahoyo itself?

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>>32192514
I wouldn't be shocked, though I would've guessed it would be a new character.
I mean the timing and setting are all a crapshoot, lots of stuff is possible.

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>>32169416
Just recently finished reading it for the first time in french, was great

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>>32151966
What’s wrong with being optimistic for a change? They’ve obviously been working on this for a while.

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>>32192514
Nasu doesn't actually know shit about Mahoyo 2, he never wrote it

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>>32193203
i often hear good things about the french translation and always wonder how it compares to the original. not that i know any french to do a side by side

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>>32202828
It's very good from anime or vn tl standards, but it's still pretty cringe at times

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>>32202828
people that say good things about translation rarely actually know the original language

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>>32202828
It has quite a few mistakes, which would matter only if you want to be a loremaster and need information to be as precise as possible, but they shouldn't really impede casual reading experience.

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>>32151966
The fact that we're getting Tsukihime with Mahoyo level of visual and sound quality is already good enough. There will also be voice acting though it may be a downside for some people I guess. I won't say anything about the Remake story and lore as it hasn't even been out yet but one thing for sure, Nasu's writing has changed a lot compared to the time Tsukihime was first released, and not in a good way unfortunately.

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>>32208415
>There will also be voice acting though it may be a downside for some people I guess.
You can always just turn voices off if you have the 'tism that bad.

>Nasu's writing has changed a lot compared to the time Tsukihime was first released, and not in a good way unfortunately.
Well it depends. Nasu's strength was always in novels so this gives him a chance to truly shine again. Extra/FGO is all inherently held back by being ADV instead of NVL like the actual good stuff.

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>>32151966
We've had 10 years of nothing but Fateshit and its derivatives. I'm glad that we're finally getting off this goddamn train for once.

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>>32208415
>Nasu's writing has changed a lot compared to the time Tsukihime was first released, and not in a good way unfortunately.
Remake will just be a clusterfuck. He's been writing that trash for 12+ years, compare 2008 nasu to 2020 Nasu.

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Let us be positive for once! Maybe his writing for the past 10+ years has been shit because he was focusing all of his creative energy on the Tsukihime remake that will be his magnum opus before he retires.
lol it won't

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>>32208788
>You can always just turn voices off if you have the 'tism that bad.
It is an upside for me to be honest, kinda sad that the MB cast didn't return but personally I think the new voice sounds good so it's not a big problem or something. Just said so since I've seen people (including /tmg/ anons too) saying they aren't fond of voice acting

[None !!BxJDSpAJCGo No.]

>>32168348
>Also, wasn't DDD something close to vampire story?
Nope, there is someone that likes to be called one though.

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>Hibiki is Triten
>Chikagi is the key to padlock Caubac
Are the rest of the girls just normal people or they also have special stuff too? IIRC the blonde one (her name is Sunao right?) is related to the Church but I may be wrong.

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>>32228105
Sunao is Ciel's apprentice, I think. She borrows Ciel's gear, at least, and is familar enough with her to use 'Curry' as a disparaging nickname (not that Ms. Tabasco Sauce has much room to talk). The elementary schooler is a magus, and her maidservant is IIRC a bootleg Triten.

Everyone else is normal, I'm pretty sure.

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How bad is the fate translation REALLY?

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody know the name of the song that played in this scene in Melty Blood?
I checked all songs in the Melty Blood playlist on YouTube and couldn't find it
It starts with the piano

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>A certain Yumizuka's "You thought I was a C but I'm actually SSR!" idiosyncrasy is something only about 27 people in the world have!
>Takeuchi: Eh? Isn't there actually a few more than that?
>Nasu: Yeah it's an underestimate by about 3 people.
so Roa, Sacchin and who?

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>>32242875
Fujimaru Ritsuka, of course.

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>>32234253
If I’m thinking of the right one, it’s called “Alchemist” or something like that. A lot of the songs from the VN section of Melty don’t show up in playlists because people don’t care enough to remember they exist.

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>>32232962
Going from my rough memory, it's merely okay. I mean it's not great, but your average translator for seasonal anime does a worse job nowadays. I've randomly found a few errors in screenshots around here from time to time, but it's not like Dies Irae where seemingly every single scene has incorrect lines everywhere. Could be worse.

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Retard here with a few questions about KnK 1.
So, the ghosts floating above the building where "records" of the girls who had in fact already died, right? If they were already dead, why do their dead bodies only show up later? We even see one of them jumping from the building (and actually leaving behind a corpse so it's not a ghost), how can that be the case if they're already supposed to be dead? Also, is the 9th ghost supposed to be Kirie?

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>>32234253
>>32248099

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aKaQjuLPZs

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>>32249561
Touko explains it in a kind of vague way. It's (slightly) more clear in the novel. Basically the flow of time inside the Fujyou building is distorted - or you might say that the World's accumulation of 'records' is distorted rather - such that the 'records' or 'ghosts' of the girls who die appear chronologically before the actual person has died. This is what Kirie is actually doing with her second (floating) body: she isn't 'compelling' the girls to suicide so that their ghosts end up in the sky, but rather, she already sees the ghosts up there and 'calls out' to them, which causes the girls to kill themselves. This is a kind of plot device which nasu never expanded upon which is a shame because it's cool.

There is no 'ninth ghost'. There are eight ghosts; the ninth is Kirie's second (floating) body that Araya gave her.

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>>32250932
Yeah, I got the part with the time being weird in the building. I'll try to restate my questions, Shiki knew that only 8 people would die because she saw 8 ghosts, Touko explained that their memories hadn't caught up to their reality: them being actually alredy dead. This raises the question, where are their physical bodies if they are already dead? And how can Shiki see one of the girls kill themselves if they are all supposed to be already dead?

Thinking about this also raised another question for me. There were 8 girls in the sky and at the end of the movie there's 8 victims reported in the news but that is including Kirie. Shouldn't there be 9 victims total at the end?

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>>32248099
>>32249577
Woah thank you so much
It's my favorite Melty song so far
Do you know where I can download the soundtrack? All the Nyaa torrents but for Actresses Again are dead

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>>32251478
Yeah I saw that too, you're going to have download it the old fashioned way
Also daybreak is my favorite, it really sets the tone for Sion's flashback
https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/melty-blood-original-soundtrack-promised-dawn

[Anonymous No.]

just finished Mahoyo and it was kino as fuck, probably one of my fav type-moon works

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>>32257984
It's Nasu's magnum opus.

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>>32147687

Yaes she'll be the only one with a sex scene with Noel.

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Fuck, I totally forgot that Alice still has an overpowered ploy hidden up her sleeve.

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>>32151966

That's true in a sense but >>32208848 said, it's better than any non fate milk shit they kept doing. Tsukihime remake feels like a game where fans can now really judge TM soul. If it sucks then it sucks but if it's the OLD TM then it's the OLD TM. We just have wait for that fucking game to taste it.

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>>32263426
As long as you know the background of the ploys, you can figure out their conceptual weakness.
After that, they're useless.

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>>32267057
Thames is good though. It's not his fault he had to job to Beo.

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>>32263426
Is that overpowered ploy one of the Great Three or something else?
Btw I remember in FGO, the Great Three ploys were mentioned to be one of the "world-view breaking" threats on Earth together with Grave Albion, Bermuda(?) and whatever that sun altar is.

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>>32262119
the supercell ending had me in tears when I finally got the meaning of that song 10 years after discovering it, Mahoyo truly is a work of art

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Why didn't Shirou just project a blade and cut kotomine down? If hs played his cards right he had both the time and the projection to do it. He was at least a couple meters away.
I see no reason why he would say he didn't have enough time.

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>>32270808
>Is that overpowered ploy one of the Great Three or something else?
Yeah the mystery one.

>in FGO
God damn it Nasu.

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>>32272219
>Yeah the mystery one.
so Wander Snatch then?

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moo

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone help me with this. I downloaded Tsukihime japanese version game straight from the mega but I get this problem while trying to run

[None !!BxJDSpAJCGo No.]

>>32228105
>IIRC the blonde one (her name is Sunao right?) is related to the Church but I may be wrong
I don't know if it's mentioned in Vol.2, but if we count the manga as canon, she was also apparently recruited by Narbareck herself.

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Am I hallucinating or is there remixed tsukihime tracks in Fate/Realta Nua

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>>32280661
The track that plays when the news is reporting on the "gas leaks" at Shirou's house during Day 1 is Track 4 from Tsukihime and there's probably a few more sprinkled about

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>>32276080

Alice's new ploys!?

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looking closely it looks the new vampire character kills a women and the way she dresses makes me think of a teacher I wonder if it's the teacher in Shiki class before Noel gets her position

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>>32277893
Huh that's neat

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>>32286199
Feels like that's the hotel lobby and the woman is a staff there

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i cant nail a single combo in melty

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>>32271717
In HF? He was literally about to die if he used another projection.

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>>32271717
Project one more and he can't save Sakura by projecting the dagger Medea used

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>page 10

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>>32306899
Thank you holocringe.

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>blows up a couple of boats and freaks out a pirate that knows some basic magic
>El-melloi actually explains in detail that it's a simple trick but he's so bad he fucked up and wasn't supposed to make it blow up until later.
Ah, I forgot how fun this series was. I'll fuck off for now and finish the book.

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>>32309786
Did they translate the newest Case Files book?

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>>32309786
Adventures definitely feels more fun and adventurous than Case Files, though I can't say I don't miss the atmosphere of the latter

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I want arc to eat me

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we almost died

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>>32168348
FGO is unironically a better turn-based unit-collecting RPG than many classic franchises such as SMT and Pokemon. People give it shit because it's gacha and mobile game, but unlike most gacha, it has solid gameplay foundations.
When FGO is released as a single purchase title I guarantee a lot more people will start liking it (a release like this definitely will happen, it's too important for Type Moon lore to be unavailable forever after End of Service).

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>tfw almost all the new tsukihime merch is gonna be made based on the new design because of the remake

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>>32336074
>tfw almost everything from the original and the sequels will be retconned because of the remake

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>>32335815
>a better turn-based unit-collecting RPG than many classic franchises such as SMT and Pokemon.
This better be bait , SMT and Pokemon don't limit my actions per day, I don't have to gamble to get new units in those games, and even Pokemon has better writing than FGO.
>it has solid gameplay foundations
It's just fucking adventure quest gameplay. Both SMT and Pokemon have way more depth and variety in their gameplay than FGO ever will.

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>>32336074
At least it's guaranteed Tsukihime R will get a lot of merch thanks to Aniplex

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>>32300452
He already did that. He was saving one to deal with the grail.

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Kneel.

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>>32335815
Keep sucking Nasu and TM off buddy.

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>>32336593
To Takeuchi's credit he didn't fuck up Akiha's design which was nice I guess

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>>32337026
There are at least four reasons that's completely wrong and her redesign is probably the worst of all.

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>>32337026
I hope he won't turn pic related into a mess, though personally I think this design really needs to be upgraded
Also wonder if Aoko's epilogue outfit will get changed

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>>32337184
Nah Ciel's and arc's is just the worst. Tell me about the four reasons why do you think that

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>>32337291
It does need refinement, but the art in MBAA really lifts it.

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>>32336164
>people's expectation and/or image of tsukihime will be partially affected by carnival phantasm's depiction
there's no tsukihime anime

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>>32337318
Tailoring. The original wore formal clothes, but they were baggy and oversized, which is very informal and gives her much more presence. I can't believe her position of authority at all when she's a lithe, stiff rectangle.
Literally everyone just wears black and white in the remake and the result is extremely lifeless. Her old design was commonly criticized for wearing a red skirt and ribbon, but it's not the same red, and the red-blue-red color blocking is interesting. There are countless ways it could have been changed while still keeping its color. I think the relative darkness of her old outfit added to the atmosphere of the Tohno mansion.
What bothers me the most is the headband. The white one popped against both her black and red hair, drawing attention to itself, and it hinted at her innocence.
Most importantly is the impression this gives to Shiki. The context Shiki sees her is very important to how she presents herself. It doesn't fit, her shirt is untucked, her sleeves are rolled up to free her arms. It's similar to the way people walk around the house in pajamas.

The designs aren't comparable beyond her having long straight hair. The only thing different about Ciel's design is the hair, and while she looks like a Mashuface now, I don't see how having an ugly bob was important to her character. Arc's ruins just as much as Akiha's, but it at least has more life to it in a vacuum. She's hurt more by the art style than the design.

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>>32336173
>no auto in 2020
>shilling for slot machine gacha game with shit writing
>fgo as a single release
implying people would pay $60 for a poorly made 2d rpg in current year
go back to /vg/ gachafag

[Anonymous No.]

Someone explain to a retard what happened at the end of Ciel's true ending. So Shiki is on the verge of death, and the Nanaya personality manifests as a child?

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>>32336173
>This better be bait , SMT and Pokemon don't limit my actions per day
This is exactly why I said people will like it more when it becomes a single purchase game. Things like stamina and gacha wouldn't be a problem. Stamina is such a non-problem in FGO as is, because it gives out literally hundreds of free refill items. You'd only ever struggle with that as a complete newbie. The mechanic is archaic but irrelevant, it's the mere existence of the mechanic puts people off.
>I don't have to gamble to get new units in those games
FGO is perfectly playable as a video game with just the free units. I suppose that if you discount all the gacha-exclusive units, FGO loses in terms of unit variety though.
>It's just fucking adventure quest gameplay. Both SMT and Pokemon have way more depth and variety in their gameplay than FGO ever will.
Never played Adventure Quest but I've played FGO, SMT and Pokemon, and I know that's bullshit (competitive Pokemon aside).

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>>32338381
>>no auto in 2020
That's part of the reason why it's good. No real video game has auto.

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>>32339351
who has time for that shit
the gameplay puts you to sleep
with extra and ccc on ppsspp, i can speed up griding to get to the actually good parts

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god, just shill elsewhere or talk about something people here care about.
Please.

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>>32339427
alterfags are everywhere
they're all fucking annoying

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>>32339409
>who has time for that shit
This if it was a real game it would have actual content instead of padding things out with being grindy as hell and having a stamina bar. Then people wouldn't be asking for an autobattle mechanic anyway

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>>32339409
>the gameplay puts you to sleep
If you're an actionbabby maybe. People who like turn-based gameplay like FGO. There are entire youtube channels dedicated to the intricate gameplay it has.
>>32339427
I'm not interrupting any other discussion am I?
>>32339468
>alterfag
I've been a TMfag since before FGO, and I play FGO since launch, way before the NA server or /alter/ existed.

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>>32339766
>intricate gameplay
ah yes i enjoy pressing the same 3 buttons to farm resources for the 10000th time
bulk of the current fate youtubers are cringe and their audience is retarded just like genchink youtubers
fgo shills are widely regarded as brainlets and are notorious for shitting up threads
you claim to not be an alternigger, but you sure are acting like one, go back to your containment thread

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>>32339766
You're derailing the thread into shitflinging.
Stick to /a/, where you have some like minded people.
>>32340091
I've seen him on /a/ and maybe /v/.
Dude ain't shitposting, he actually believes this.

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>>32340876
that explains alot actually, im usually on /vg/ most of the threads im in get raided by /alter/ and/or /fgog/ on a regular basis

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>>32340091
They don't release as much actual content as they probably should, but it is there, and you can always just not grind like a little piggie. In any case, it's much more pleasant than the equally bloated grindfests in SMT and Pokemon.

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>>32342455
>pokemon grindfest
you have to be a legitimate paid shill

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>>32343666
that anon is retarded
>competitive pokemon
>shiny hunting
>dex
>shiny hunting legendaries
>jack off to poke girl r64
there's plenty more to do in pokemans

[Anonymous No.]

>even in FGO the FSN pseudos keep being more popular
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>32339351
Every single SMT game has Auto-battle. Are you going to say they are all not real games? Anyway this whole conversation is pointless, because FGO is nothing more than a glorified skinner's box designed to make you spend money. The gameplay is just designed as a means to funnel you toward the gacha, and towards spending money on it. Even if the game did had auto battle it would still be a poor game, because the gameplay exists merely in service to the gacha.

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>>32344021
>>32343666
>pokemon has non-grind content, which means there is no grinding
>shiny hunting somehow doesn't qualify as grinding
>fan art qualifies as in-game content
Ok, Satan, no hypocrisy here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32345232
This argument could be used in reference to any game's business model.

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>>32345561
you have proven your retardation
go jack off to your normie ass fgo porn in your containment thread back on /vg/
grinding implies you are making progress
>exp/rare candy+ev supplements eliminates grinding
shiny hunting still beats mindlessly grinding for that 1 resource you need to uncap your shit
you and your kind needs to neck yourselves
>>32345232
the nigg is a paid shill at this point
i've dealt with his kind way too often, they are tourists who go to random threads only to shit them up with fgo shilling
>>32345777
you havent played any proper games then

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>>32343666
>>32345777
Chaosfags btfo

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>>32345561
>shiny hunting somehow doesn't qualify as grinding
Yes you can grind for shinies if you want but it's just very extra content. It's really just supposed to be a neat little thing to happen to come across while you play. Besides it's not that hard to grind for shines anymore these days it's easier to get a shiny than it is to get an SSR in FGO. Also you're replying to two different people.

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>>32345232
You're retarded if you think Nasu didn't want to make a proper game that people would enjoy.

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>>32346310
>implying nasu has a say anymore
aniplex runs this shit now, otherwise we would be getting a remaster of F/UC and melty blood

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>>32346310
>if you think Nasu didn't want to make a proper game
There's literally nothing stopping him and yet he doesn't make one.

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>>32345961
/tmg/ isn't a random thread, anon. Also, you've been responding to more than one person. You do realize you're arguing spending days on end running back and forth to see a different color from usual is somehow less taxing than pressing a few buttons while you do something else. Rates for materials are bad when you take into account how much are needed to level something up, but just playing the game casually, it provides you with plenty through other means unless you have some autistic obsession with maxing things out immediately. If you are, the system makes it easy to macro. The main appeal of the gameplay is found in the design of main story quests, which is ostensibly not grinding and is completely divorced from grinding.
>you havent played any proper games then
You don't understand at all. Have you even played the game? You're completely refusing to look it because it uses a certain business model and assuming that's the only part that matters. In the same way, you can assume there's no reason for any other game that you can pay money for (and in the case of "proper games" has a paywall at entry) other than to incentivize you to buy it. This is solely an argument about the good faith of the developers, and we all already know that Nasu wanted to make an RPG and tell a specific story, whether you like that story or not. Takeuchi then chose a growing business model to facilitate its success. That's the opposite of what you're saying.

>>32346055
>it's easier to get a shiny than it is to get an SSR in FGO
The rate for shinies in the latest game varies from .09% and .19%. Their appearance also depends on running back and forth a lot. SSRs are 1% in general and .7% on rate up. They can be rolled for with the press of a button using a currency you acquire just by playing the game normally.
>you're replying to two different people
No shit.

>>32346467
FGO polls ask if players are interested in fighting game as a separate category from other video games, showing that there's enough interest for them to consider that specifically. If you mean the original FUC specifically, it's a joke kusoge. IIRC Melty Blood was recently re-licensed or something.

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>>32346587
>The rate for shinies in the latest game varies from .09% and .19%.
Did they get rid of the chain battles from Sun and Moon because with that plus shiny charm it's absolutely easier to get a shiny than an SSR. Plus you might get a random SSR put with chain battles you can get the exact shiny pokemon you were looking for.
>They can be rolled for with the press of a button using a currency you acquire just by playing the game normally.
Stop being so disingenuous in the time it takes you to grind up enough quartz to do a ten roll you could have found several shinys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32346742
shiny charm is still in
swsh increased the rates to 1% in the new dlc raid

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>>32346587
>thinking that a fighting game based on the original 2 VNs a joke kusoge
your opinion is shit
money into a slot machine and selling a game experience, gacha games are not incentivized to provide a good experience, the problem comes when the gacha game writing style leaks into the other series

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>>32346742
I haven't played Pokemon since X/Y, so I can't offer a mathematical analysis of how long it takes to get a shiny on average, but I know no matter how hard I ever tried with any method in the games preceding it, I never got one that wasn't a promo. Maybe it is more time-efficient to deliberately hunt shinies than grind quartz, but quartz are a limited currency, and again, something you get more of by playing passively than by grinding. Beyond that, it comes down to personal mindset.

>>32347122
Try playing a fighting game that isn't an anime spin-off. Anyone in the FGC plays it as a joke because it's so mechanically broken and exploitable, like Sailor Moon.
>the problem comes when the gacha game writing style leaks into the other series
lol, never change, /tmg/.

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>>32345961
>you havent played any proper games then
Let's be honest here unless we're talking about indies pretty much all AAA games are built for just one purpose, make money.

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>>32347866
To make money you would have to make a game that is actually good, not every game runs on a f2p slot machine business model
I.e. monster hunter

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>>32348077
F2P is an effective business model because accessibility increases the pool of potential customers. People wouldn't spend money on them if they didn't already enjoy the experience, but the average Steam user blows money on countless games they never touch and never try to get a refund for. The reason why gacha is unethical is because it's too effective at providing positive experiences, particularly to stupid people with no willpower. The small amount of content it gatekeeps doesn't discredit the majority it doesn't.
>monster hunter
I hope this isn't supposed to be an example of an actually good game, because it's way more time consuming and capitalizes on the same psychological impulses as gacha except you have to pay upfront.

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[Anonymous No.]

Why is fate so polarizing now?
Some retards parrot it as the best story ever told, while others thinks its dogshit. It was never like this 10 years ago.

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>>32354745
Probably because fate has no identity it doesn't have a consistent tone, setting, or genre between it's works. Also the writing quality is quite varied.

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>>32354745
It depends on which Fate you're talking about, but it probably starts with the ufotable's anime. They don't match the spirit of their originals at all, and as Zero is babby's first tragedy and UBW appeals to shounentards who hate reading, it leads to a wild disparity of opinions and knowledge of what Fate even is.

After that, it started becoming a franchise, so the bloat combined with their obnoxious arguments and tendency to be even more pushy than regular anime fans has continuously compounded the issue, souring everyone to the parts they aren't attached to.

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>>32355331
How big are the chances that Tsukihime becomes that in the 2020s

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>>32356227
The scale and severity isn't the same, but we're already kind of there with the manga and KnK's versions. "Twilight for Men" isn't a catchy enough sell to blow up like "mythological battle royale". Even if it breaks the curse of all remakes and gets a positive reception, I'm sure new remake fans will be able to understand it's more of a spiritual sequel.

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>>32354745
It really comes down to it becoming big thanks to the anime adaptations. Anything that reaches a large following tends to generate that kind of polarization.

>>32356227
Pretty big considering a ufotable adaptation is all but guaranteed.

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>>32356227
Probably not. The reason why Fate can be turned into such a massive series is because of the concept of Servants. You can create an infinite amount of Servants and have them fight each other. Whereas for Tsukihime, you can't really do that. A Tsukihime game needs to have the same characters as the original, which limits the scope by a lot. That isn't a bad thing though.

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>>32357251
>A Tsukihime game needs to have the same characters as the original
They've already introduced two new characters, bro

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>>32357298
Yes, but it also has the same ones that were in the original. That's what I meant.

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>>32208900
It's not like he finished writing the game in 2020. He was probably much done in 2018

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>>32208900
>and not in a good way
His style was an absolute embarrassment before Extra, so what could you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh wow, I was just rewatching Kara no Kyoukai. I didn't realize how much they changed Oblivion Recording. Major plot points are either changed or completely not addressed. Especially with this guy.

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>>32364947
>blocking godword with fucking earphones
Yeah it's hilariously bad. Everything about that movie was a mistake.

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Alright just finished up the new Case Files sequel book. Overall, a good read. It was good to see some characters return (yay for Rin) and have some new ones. I'm really curious to see where Sanda will go with this one. In contrast to the previous one, the overarching plot is pretty clear from the getgo although I doubt that Mishiki will be the main antagonist like Heartless was for the last series. I assume that will get revealed later as we learn more about Elgo. Also given that mages from every branch of the Mage's association created/made/birthed/whatever Elgo, maybe we can have a book in the series that sheds more light on the Wandering Sea and whatever the fuck they actually do. On the character side of things, it's nice to see Sanda bring up El-melloi struggling with his own powerlessness as a mage and that he can only rely on others to do things for him. Both him and Gray had pretty good character arcs during the course of the last 10 books, so I was worried that he might leave them completely flat. Well Gray isn't really different but at least there's the never aging thing that will be a point of conflict later.

In comparison to 事件簿, 冒険 is defintiely more "adventurous" feeling for sure. And Sanda made it pretty clear in the afterword that he wanted to expand the scale and have the the cast travel around a bunch of different places (next one will take place in glorious 日本 of course). Next book this summer. Maybe I'll even get to pick up at the same time as the Tsukihime remake.

>>32311754
lol

>>32315892
We'll have to see where it goes. Case Files's first book was fine, but the series definitely picked up later.

[None !!BxJDSpAJCGo No.]

>>32364947
Hopefully the manga adaptation will be accurate. So far it's going well.

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>>32276642
Can't say for sure, but it seems related to the bug with CD audio looping. The original Tsukihime (like many games back then) played music from the CD the same way a CD player did. Newer Windows systems don't replicate this behavior correctly and, e.g., looping is broken, so people patch their games to use a custom player (using things like _inmm). メインテーマ・ループ makes me believe it's actually related and the "*9" looks like a part of the _inmm.ini syntax. My guess is, it would run fine if you somehow pointed which CD to use (because, probably, the sound engine doesn't know what's going on if it's mounted on F:) or somehow tried playing BGM from a hard drive (by pointing to local files instead of *1, *2, etc.). Are there any config files included with your game?

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>>32358945
His actual stories are an absolute embarrassment after Extra, so what could you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32364991
All of that shit was actually Nasu's idea, the actually rewrote all the lore for his abilities. Then he was smug about it in interviews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32375168
>I'm rubber, you're glue xxxdddd

[Anonymous No.]

need a new phone wallpaper, post cute mahoyo artworks

[Anonymous No.]

>>32378702
Here's a rare from my collection.

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>>32378702

[Anonymous No.]

how do completely read mahoyo as a できない？

[Anonymous No.]

>>32384975
ith, jisho, at least finishing tae kim. also, >>>/jp/djt

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>>32208848
Maybe but if the trailer is anything to go by, it looks like they're turning Tsukihime into a fate-esque battle shounen

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>>32385453
>if the trailer is anything to go by
Trailer openings are never anything to go by. They're just there to look cool.